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Binding mounting position on Pocket Rockets

post #1 of 7
Thread Starter 
I demoed the Pocket Rocket several times last Spring from a Salomon booth. Each time they asked if I intended to use the ski for freeriding or in the park. As I was only interested in freeriding, they mounted the bindings in a rearward position.

The skis from the factory have only one mounting point indicated, which is quite forward (approx. 2 to 2.5 in) compared to other skis. I presume that this is the correct position for a park set up.

My question is, what is the correct mounting point for freeriding? (If there is a difference between lengths, I am interested in the 185cm model.)
post #2 of 7
This was a really unusual tact taken by the tech setting up the skis. The marked position on the skis represents the best compromise given the skis "dual" nature. I would have assumed it was in their best interest to demo this.

Are you implying that the "freeriding only" position was 2 inches back from their mark?
post #3 of 7
Thread Starter 
Warren, during the demos the techs were using the forward - aft range available in the demo bindings to adopt the skis to each user. This is probably a range of a few centimeters. I don't know where they had lined up the demo bindings. (If the demo bindings were centered on the boot center mark, it would put the forward position even further ahead.)

The 2 inch difference that I referred to is the difference betweeh the boot mark on the PR's and the boot mark on a similar size pair of 10.ex's (for example) when laid out beside each other on the floor. The difference is quite substantial.
post #4 of 7
I also am interesting in this question. I have a new pair of Pocket Rockets I've got to get mounted. I talked to the tech at the Salomon Store in Whistler (Where I'm going next week and will have the bindings mounted there). He said that if I was only going to use them for freeriding and not jibbing (which I am) he has been mounting them about a cm back from the marked location. This is certainly a place that has some experience with both applications of this ski.

Comparing the mounting locations between two skis does not tell you much about mounting location as each ski has different design characteristic upon which that mounting point is chosen. I have skis whose mounting points are at least 2 inches different. The real question is whether Salomon compromised in the marking of the mounting point because of the dual nature of this ski. Anyone have any solid information on this?
post #5 of 7
Thread Starter 
Si, I've done more research on this question. The recommendation from Salomon for freeriding and not jibbing is to go 2cm back. If you're going to Whistler, the guys at Snowcovers are more knowledgeable.
post #6 of 7
Skier,
Thanks for the info - it's much appreciated.
post #7 of 7
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Si:
...Comparing the mounting locations between two skis does not tell you much about mounting location as each ski has different design characteristic upon which that mounting point is chosen. I have skis whose mounting points are at least 2 inches different. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So true. A simple, but very significant factor is tip and tail turn-up. Differences in this can cause the front and rear contact points to be significantly different for different skis. At minimum, offsets such as you guys are discussing should always be referred to the center of the running surface of the ski, rather than to (say) the tail of the ski, the position of which is essentially arbitrary.

As Si points out (and I pointed out in another forum), there are MANY other design parameters in addition to tip and tail turn-up that come into play.

Si hit the nail on the head when he asked about the severity of the design compromises needed because of the dual usage of this ski.

Tom / PM
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