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post #31 of 51
600 seems decent for Ohio.
post #32 of 51

Regarding Ohio Skiing

Never, never, never make a trip here for the skiing! Ohio skiing makes Seven Springs look like Whistler!

This is what I have to put up with as a home ski resort: www.alpinevalleyohio.com Quite frankly, I think they are exaggerating about the 230 feet of vertical. They make snow, they "groom" it, it basically becomes little ice chunks. Forget about bumps, trees, powder, steep, or anything interesting - frankly, it's all green. There are no slower lifts on the planet - and, the lifts must come from an era when people were skinnier, as the quad barely fits four and the double is ultra-cozy!

The only excuse to go there, is if you live within 10-15 minutes of it (which I do.) It has night skiing, it gets me out of the house exercising in the winter after work, instead of turning into a couch potato! (Actually it's never crowded at night either, although it is a zoo on weekends.)

Now, though, I shouldn't slam it entirely - I learned to ski there, and it is a great, convenient, relatively inexpensive place to learn. So, I give them all the credit in the world for that, they did help turn me into a skier....I just can't tolerate skiing there anymore! Thank goodness I am planning to move West!
post #33 of 51
[quote=B40]Never, never, never make a trip here for the skiing! Ohio skiing makes Seven Springs look like Whistler!

Ha,ha, that's funny! I would not specifically travel to Ohio to ski. No way! I live in WV so there are plenty of mountains for me. However, my boyfriend lives here and if I happen to be visiting him during the winter we might want to check out a ski resort. Most likely we'll be skiing in WV when he comes to visit me.

p.s. Funny how this thread turned out to be about skiing in Ohio. It was originally about 7S. Any more info on that?
Thanks
post #34 of 51

OK, 7 Springs

OK, I'll give you my 2 cents on 7 Springs. I've probably skied there a half a dozen times. I like the North Face area, it's pretty open and spread out, and the runs are of decent length. Some nice steep stuff on the front side as well, but shorter length runs. Overall, the layout is pretty decent, and you will have fun exploring. It is crowded on weekends, be careful. I almost got taken out from behind once by some speeding yahoo; scared the heck out of me! On the other hand, I went there on a 60 degree weekday in March and had the hill to myself - what a blast (it was the start of a warming spell, so while the snow was soft, the coverage was still decent)! Given that the drive won't be that bad for you, you should try it. If you can go on a weekday, perfect, but you'll still have fun on the weekend.

For comparison, I have been to Snowshoe once. I know Snowshoe probably has more vertical and more acreage, but I was unimpressed. First, I thought their layout was uninspired - I have this overwhelming impression of just all these same parallel runs going straight down. Also, Snowshoe was more crowded than 7 Springs. I thought the caliber of skier at Snowshoe was worse - I have never seen so many people careening down a hill in a flying wedge in my life! Or more people clueless about how to behave in a lift line. Maybe I just hit it on a bad weekend. Also, I may have been a little disappointed, since I drove 6 hours to get there. For me, it wasn't worth the drive, since my 3-hr drive resorts (7 Springs, Holiday Valley in NY) seemed in about the same class.

Just my 2 cents. If it's not too far of a drive, you should try it. And, typically February should have good conditions (and if not, they WILL make snow - I think they actually invented snowmaking.)

Kristine
post #35 of 51

Re: 7 Springs vs. Snowshoe

I have skied both places multiple times and I prefer 7 Springs. Why?

1. It handles crowds better--better parking, more efficient shuttle busses, and people spread out better on the slopes. If you have skis, you can ski right from the Upper lot to the North Face on Lost Boy and do not even need to bother with the shuttle.

2. With the important exception of Widowmaker, the basin at Snowshoe is boring: the trails are short and ski short. Silver Creek skis bigger than the basin, but it's inconvenient to get to--you have to drive or take a very inefficient shuttle.

I'd take the North Face of 7 Springs over Silver Creek and the Wagner side over the basin on any day of the week. 7 Springs, despite its modest vert., skis bigger than the numbers suggest.

3. Better lodges at 7 Springs and better food.


THE ONLY EXCEPTION and it is an IMPORTANT ONE is expert terrain. The Western Territory blows 7 Springs away in this area. Experts will get bored at 7 Springs after a day, but those two big trails on the Western side of Snowshoe will keep an expert busy for a long weekend. If SN could cut just one more trail on this side and link Silver Creek and the basin via a gondola, it would be the best resort in the region hands down. Instead, Intrawest is dumping 90 million into building 2 new villages at Tremblant and selling off assets at Snowshoe and other resorts to pay for it. That strikes me as "robbing Peter to pay Paul."

7 Springs, by contrast, will be putting up a new high-speed on the North Face (not this year but next year if all goes well) and also beginning a terrain expansion area called GREAT WESTERN in the nex few years. In short, 7 Springs is much more serious about cultivating its loyal local market than Snowshoe is at the moment. Maybe the situation will change if Wisp develops Tory in the next few years. Hard to say.
post #36 of 51
Maybe the situation will change if Wisp develops Tory in the next few years. Hard to say.[/quote]

What is this about Wisp? I am interested because it is my home mountain (although it is not in WV~it is the clostest at 45-50 mins away....)
Thanks
post #37 of 51
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnfmh
I have skied both places multiple times and I prefer 7 Springs. Why?

1. It handles crowds better--better parking, more efficient shuttle busses, and people spread out better on the slopes. If you have skis, you can ski right from the Upper lot to the North Face on Lost Boy and do not even need to bother with the shuttle.

3. Better lodges at 7 Springs and better food.


If SN could cut just one more trail on this side and link Silver Creek and the basin via a gondola, it would be the best resort in the region hands down. Instead, Intrawest is dumping 90 million into building 2 new villages at Tremblant and selling off assets at Snowshoe and other resorts to pay for it. That strikes me as "robbing Peter to pay Paul."

7 Springs, by contrast, will be putting up a new high-speed on the North Face (not this year but next year if all goes well) and also beginning a terrain expansion area called GREAT WESTERN in the nex few years. In short, 7 Springs is much more serious about cultivating its loyal local market than Snowshoe is at the moment.

No doubt that parking at Snowshoe sux!!!! They stick day skiers at the top of the mountain and make you take the shuttle to the lodge.

Sorry but Snowshoe is better for food hands down.

Link Silver Creek and the basin via a gondola. That is a great idea!!! I have never skied Silver Creek cause i hate waiting for the bus.

If the 7 Springs terrain expansion happens and they build some more apre places like the Foggy Goggle they will surpass the shoe.

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post #38 of 51
From a trail map I've seen 7S looks like a pretty decent sized place already. It'll be cool if they expand it though. Eastskier originally mentioned a trip in February...This is a good month for skiing, if it is on a weekend. My b-day is in Feb (I think it is a Sunday). The best present for me: hitting the slopes!
p.s. The Snowshoe food was good from what I remember. However, skiing does work up a good appetite
post #39 of 51
ULLR, that expansion has been sitting idle for a long time. The new Tahoe Village condos *may* spark it a bit...who knows?

The buzz is also that 7S is getting slots. Maybe this will help push the expansion a little bit. There's other VERY neat terrain that is supposed to open before the Western Expansion. I'm hoping to see it next season (05/06). I think *if* it all happens we could be pushing the 1000 skiable acres mark.

Of course there's so many rumours flying around it's hard to keep track of them. There was *supposed* to be some things happeneing this year. I've been up there a few times this summer, absolutely none of it has happened yet, so I doubt it will in the next 4 months in time to open for 04/05. :

And as for more bars in the expansion...nope. The expansion is in Saltlick twp (I believe) and it's "dry". That's the reason the new 6 pack that's planned will drop off at Lake Tahoe, so bar service can be utulized in the Tahoe Lodge where they have a liquor license. They can't get a license for the new proposed 500 acres.
post #40 of 51
post #41 of 51
John,


Any idea where this is? Is it down by Snowshoe or closer to the PA/MD borders? I can't find a map that shows Harman, WV.
post #42 of 51
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taylormatt
There's other VERY neat terrain that is supposed to open before the Western Expansion. I'm hoping to see it next season (05/06). I think *if* it all happens we could be pushing the 1000 skiable acres mark.
That was the glades off the the right when riding up the North Face lifts?
post #43 of 51
B40/Kristine:


I agree completely with your assessment of Snowshoe. The worst "skiers" I have ever seen congregated in one place. And the mountain is totally over rated, and, well I could go on, but life is too short to go negative.

The other mountains in WV are great though!
post #44 of 51
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ullr
That was the glades off the the right when riding up the North Face lifts?
Yes, there's some glades right of Lost Girl as you ride the lift as well as other areas back there. Crossing my fingers.
post #45 of 51
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taylormatt
John,


Any idea where this is? Is it down by Snowshoe or closer to the PA/MD borders? I can't find a map that shows Harman, WV.
Oooooh I am very interesting in the developments at Tory! Being from WV, it is very exciting! The prospect of yet another place to ski!
I found an article from the Charleston Gazette that says it is about 20 miles from Canaan and Timberline and 60 miles from Snowshoe. Not sure if that helps any? Here is the link:
http://www.hotel-online.com/News/200...088618266.html
post #46 of 51
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnfmh

7 Springs, by contrast, will be putting up a new high-speed on the North Face (not this year but next year if all goes well) and also beginning a terrain expansion area called GREAT WESTERN in the nex few years. In short, 7 Springs is much more serious about cultivating its loyal local market than Snowshoe is at the moment. Maybe the situation will change if Wisp develops Tory in the next few years. Hard to say.
So wait exactly how much skiing will this "great western add to 7 springs?
post #47 of 51
The Westen Expansion is supposedly an additional 500 acres. Now, how much of that 500 will be skiable is unknown. Don't look for for it to happen next year. It's been sitting there for years and could very well sit there a few more.
post #48 of 51
Thread Starter 
oaky thanks
post #49 of 51
Western expansion or not I'm still looking forward to my first trip to 7S And also excited about Tory in WV!! Anyone heard any predictions about when that'll be finished?
post #50 of 51
[quote=Taylormatt]There's other VERY neat terrain that is supposed to open before the Western Expansion. QUOTE]


What did you hear Taylor?
post #51 of 51
More glades are rumored to be coming. Of course, they are "rumored"...lots and lots of those rumors flying around the mountain :
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