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post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
I'm looking for a pair of fat skis that are light enough to be skiid in the backcountry. I am a lightweight expert skier. What would be a good fit?
post #2 of 12
probably some little big fats or so. You might get some better responses over on TGR, lots of BC skiers there.
post #3 of 12
Originally posted by taoshombre:
I'm looking for a pair of fat skis that are light enough to be skiid in the backcountry. I am a lightweight expert skier. What would be a good fit?
tele, AT? One day or multi day tours? What kind of boots? You have given us almost nothing to work with. If your bc is mostly pow then almost anything mid fat or fatter will work
post #4 of 12
I have a pair of K2 AK Launchers with Diamar Fritschi Freerides that seem to fit that bill pretty well. I also use them with my Alpine boots for Cat/Heli Skiing and big powder days in the resorts.
post #5 of 12
Originally posted by ski_rick:
I also use them with my Alpine boots for Cat/Heli Skiing and big powder days in the resorts.
OT: Hope you managed to catch the 25 cms in Sun peaks. That must've been a blast
post #6 of 12
Thread Starter 
I'm looking for an alpine ski that is light enough to tour with, i'm worried that a randonee ski will not be enough of a ski. I would like to ski most things in the backcountry including tight trees, chutes, and open bowls. I'm a very aggressive skier that races as well. what would be a good pick thanks
post #7 of 12
Thread Starter 
I'm not sure on wheter to do alpine or randonee boots, but I'm thinking single day tours at this momment.
post #8 of 12
Check out the Voile Carbon Surf. It's seriously light.
post #9 of 12
If you're thinking just day tours for now then stick with your normal boots. If they're comfy then why not? If I was doing a bunch of ski-mountaineering or hiking or even spending a bunch of time in the boots then maybe I'd go with the AT boots. If you're going to go with the AT boots then maybe think about getting something which also works with Dynafit bindings. If you like light gear you're going to be all over the Dynafit stuff.

For AT skis? The Voile Carbon SUrf is incredibly light but aren't they supposed to be a little soft? Frankly I'd like the soft ski if you're planning on using the ski in bc exclusively.

These are all fatter skis I have tried and like. I'm only 165lbs and used these in powder and chopped up crud on-piste. I won't mention the telemarks skis I've tried as I don't think telemark skis translate all that well over to AT necessarily - but that might be the limits of my tele skills too

- Dynastar Inspired by J nobis - turny, floaty, crudbusting machine. expensive and hard to find deals
- Rossi Bandit XXX - not super turny but great float; kinda fragile
- Saloman Pocket Rockets - super turny, floaty, can find deals, not that great in groomers and decent in crud. Super light. Gotta get tail attachment for skins
- Atomic R:ex - 10:ex - more biased to groomers and crudbusting, blessed with tip dive so stay out of backseat but decent in pow. super light

They're all pretty light for AT skis. If you're willing to go with sub 80mm waist skis you can get lighter cheaper skis too but you haven't said if cost is a concern.

I'd add one more thing. Im a big believer in using 2nd hand gear for bc but having said that Im pretty cheap. I've seen skis with hardly any camber left do just fine in the bc. There's simply not as much demand on a ski in pow as compared to rocking hard and fast groomers imo.
post #10 of 12
Black Diamond Havoc and Crossbow are light and perform well, they're built at the Atomic factory, a lighter skier probably would prefer the Crossbow.
post #11 of 12
I ski an Atomic 10EX (now the REX) in the backcountry, with rando bindings and boots. Lite, turny and plenty wide enough (84mm waist) for deep snow

ps, never experienced "tip dive" on these or any other skis, except as a result of pilot error--getting weight too far forward--tho I suppose mismounting the bindings could also cause tips to sink. Get your weight where it belongs on these skis or any others of similar girth, and they will float all day for you.
post #12 of 12
I've skied the R:ex's and didn't find them particularly light. Not a bad ski but bit great either. For my use I ended up with Axis XP. Similar dimension to the R:Ex but livlier and a much higher speed limit. The XP is an alpine board for me and my old XScreams (187's) are getting a remount with a set of Diamir's. I expect that to be a pretty good bc ski. Really easy ski to work, very quick and light. Good characteristics when picking your way through the gnarly. They come with a speed limit though and that isn't a great characteristic when ripping up a bowl ... At 68mm under foot they are the narrow end of the mid-fat. I'm 205 to 210 lbs. I suspect I'll fight that 68 mm width. At 165 lbs you would do a lot better in the float dept that I will. (I gotta loose the gut, it will all get easier then, sigh ...) The REx's and XP's or B2's 78mm to 80mm waste is floatier and allows for a shorter length - or to go like blazes on a longer length.

It is probably common knowledge here but I was suprised to find the 181 XP almost exactly the same contact length as the 187 Solly. I had intened to buy a shorter length and forgot about the euro vs us measurment method differences. As it turns out, I think the 181 was a good length for me. Those ski's just rip! Too heavey, at least with the 912 TI on plate binding setup for AT IMHO. It does go like to go fast though!

I also have a 190 AK Launcher in the quiver. that is not an appropriate ski for AT. A very cool ride in the right conditions but that pup is heavy, heavy, heavy! It would kill you to lug that thing up hill. Strictly a lift/cat/heli board but a classic.

My .02 and worth every penny!
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