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Thread Starter 
Dear addicts like myself,
I'm so excited, I'm in a situation where I can get the 2002 Atomic line at incredible savings. So I'm going to re-equip my stable. I love any and all aspects of skiing that the fates throw at you: blue ice, groomers(as fast as conditions and crowds allow), jumps, catwalk air, trees, steeps, crud, and joy of joys-POWDER. Did I mention speed? and wide open spaces too?? I'm a former racer and hotdogger(I say that proudly as I'm 44,haha) that has eaten up the new technology with a vengence. 6'1" 180lbs level 8 aggressive.70% midwest-30% Jackson and Utah each year. The fat portion of the package is easy:10.ex. I think the 184cm should be about right for the tight tree slots and narrow chutes at JHMR. If someone thinks this length is wrong for my profile, please give me your input. It's the all mtn. portion of my buying that has me in coniptions. I was planning on getting k2 Axis X Pro's or Volkl G3's, but now I'm torn between the b-ride 9.22 and the b-ride 11.20 for my everyday board. I lean strongly toward the 11.20( I believe a 180cm is enough for me??)for the stability and high speed solidity as I can't love a ski that freaks at speeds over 40 or 45mph. It also has to be manuverable in tight spots as well, I don't mind working some for short turns, at the same time I don't want to kill myself doing it either. The 9.22 impresses me as a great ski but more of a fall line turner with a bit of a speed limit, however this is second hand knowledge gotten from sites and articles and the occasional shopperson. Please let me know what y'all think of this as I've only got one chance to nail this since I have to buy before I can demo. Helllllp!!!, any and all input is welcome. Thanks to all of you for giving my addicted a$$ some late night jonesing material through the oh so long off season. Joel

Champagne to your true friends and true pain to your sham friends.

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ October 17, 2001 08:20 PM: Message edited 1 time, by joel ]</font>
post #2 of 13
Joel , do I understand you right ....you are putting two sets of skis in the quiver?
The 10.ex is probably going to do all of the things you want in a 184 cm. it's an unbelievably stable ,quick if you want it ski. The 9.22 is also an awsome ski that some tend to underestimate, granted it's no speed machine but probably is the most versatile Atomic ski made. The 11.20 is close enough to the 10.ex that you wouldn't want both of them .....so what do you want ?
Check out the 11.16 Bcarv's as a second ski to go with the 10.ex if thats the way your leaning, otherwise if your looking at one ski only do the 11.20 rides or 10.20's if you want a little softer ski.
post #3 of 13
You sound like the kind of skier that would appreciate extra stability. For your type of skiing (from what you've said) your terrain and size the 11.20 would probably be your ski (from what I've heard the 9.22 has a speed limit). Go for the 11.20 (you seem to have been leaning that way anyway). mmmm, 10.EX and 11.20, that would be a sweet combo...
post #4 of 13
Joel,

Any way I can talk you into giving me your tenex's? I'll let you borrow them when you come out west but I think the skis will be sad hanging out at Shanty Creek / Schuss for 70% of the winter! Seriously though - I loved last year's version but didn't buy a pair and am going into my demoing this year with a severe bias towards them.
post #5 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the input you guys, I will guiltily admit that the 10.ex's are a luxury for me, but they will live happily in a special place, full of love, until the deep snow beckons them forth. I'm pretty much buying them as a pow ski for those special days(sh*t-eating grin). I will be in Jackson and Utah more like 40%(heehee) of my year, if that helps ya feel better at all, Squaw640. I plan most of my skiing to be on my all mtn. choice. That's why I wasn't sure on what to do between the 9.22 and the 11.20, hard snow performance is definately a consideration. The 11.16 is an interesting idea tho', have to check the dimensions and stuff. Also, is the b-race 10.50 ti boot too much boot for the whole mtn. or not? I've got long legs and am accustomed to stiff boots and a highish type cuff and spoiler. This boot felt way better than the b-ride version, but I don't want to ski a rock and steel race boot either. Can anyone field this one?
post #6 of 13
Go with the Tenex and the BR9.12 short Sl.
post #7 of 13
Joel, I have the 10.50's and found them to be a great boot for me at 225lbs. One of the difference you will find from the race boot to the ride boot is the liner , like all high end race oriented boots it has denser materials . The stiffness of the boots do increase in the cold so take that into consideration. What I have found with the 10.50's is they have a very quick rebound of energy transfer and go well with a stiffer ski than soft one , good combo with the 10.ex and really good match for the 11.16. As for bump skiing they can be a bit much for some people but that depends also on the ski.
Overall I found you can't even appreiciate what these boots are made for and can do till you get them on a pair of 920 Race Carves and hit that eye watering speed that leaves you wondering if your going to be able to hang on coming into the next gate.
post #8 of 13
Joel,

Here is yet another "opinion." I own an Axis X Pro and G30, because I love speed and grip. The only thing that a 9.22 has is grip. I demoed it last year and hated it. I tried the 180 size and found that it just wanted to turn and was very unstable at speed compared to other Atomics (10.EX, 11.20, 10.22). The 11.20 kills the 9.22 as an all mountain stick geared towards high speed. Also, my impression is that the 9.22 gets pushed around in crud and heavier snow, while the 11.20 thrives there. The 9.22 has a place on the hill, just not for speed freaks.
post #9 of 13
I've got the 9.22 HC and 10.50 combi, and they've been very good together. The 10.50 didn't seem like too much to me. To the extent they have a limit, the 9.22's seem reasonably high. 40-45, I don't know, never clocked myself... Some of this is depenedent on how comfortable you feel, and what you like. For instance, I like speed, but I am not an ultimate speed freak, (I like lateral acceleration ) so what I'm looking for is probably different than what Bandit is. But there is no doubt, they are quite light and will not give you the all out crazy stability a heavier ski would. But it is this lightness and flickability that I love. And it seems pretty damn stable to me, given all that. I suppose its not the ultimate GS ski, but is pretty damn good, and a hell of a lot of fun in tighter arcs; almost like a funcarving ski.

As someone else mentioned, I think this is an underappreciated ski. I don't think it gets thrown around too much, it seems to do very nicely in cut up pow and so on; definetly up to where your 10.EX might step in. Overall, I think it is an incredibly versatile and fun ski, takes pretty much whatever you throw at it. I ski it in a 190, so my expereince might be a fair amount different from the 180. Finally, it performs nicely in the bumps, something I'm not so sure about the 11...

All that said, I wonder with some others here -- if you're going to get the 10.EX, maybe consider a more piste focussed ski, perhaps one of the shorty slaloms, or a more focussed race carver?

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ October 19, 2001 01:07 PM: Message edited 3 times, by Lodro ]</font>
post #10 of 13
Lodro & anyone else...! Continuing on a little with the 9.22....WITH it's lightness, I'm debating the 9.22's crud_crushability versus the K2 Axis...? Opinions...? :
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by steve:
Lodro & anyone else...! Continuing on a little with the 9.22....WITH it's lightness, I'm debating the 9.22's crud_crushability versus the K2 Axis...? Opinions...? :<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmm, not having skied the Axis I can't do a vs., but speaking as a true lover of crud, I like them very much, thank you. I _imagine_ an Axis would feel a little more stable and smooth, but I like how the 9.22 lets you easily change directions and play in the stuff. Slices more than plows through I guess I'd say if that makes any sense. Again, if you're expecting a 10.EX, you'll obviously be disapointed, but considering the weight and waist size, it has done very nicely. Wind crust seems good, and I loved them on some exceptionally funky sun-baked stuff at Taos last year. Didn't get too many nice deep days last year, I must admit. Don't know if this helps at all...
post #12 of 13
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by steve:
Lodro & anyone else...! Continuing on a little with the 9.22....WITH it's lightness, I'm debating the 9.22's crud_crushability versus the K2 Axis...? Opinions...? :<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmm, not having skied the Axis I can't do a vs., but speaking as a true lover of crud, I like them very much, thank you. I _imagine_ an Axis would feel a little more stable and smooth, but I like how the 9.22 lets you easily change directions and play in the stuff. Slices more than plows through I guess I'd say if that makes any sense. Again, if you're expecting a 10.EX, you'll obviously be disapointed, but considering the weight and waist size, it has done very nicely. Wind crust seems good, and I loved them on some exceptionally funky sun-baked stuff at Taos last year. Didn't get too many nice deep days last year, I must admit. Don't know if this helps at all...
post #13 of 13
thanks Lodro....
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