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'05 Rossignol Scratch BC graphic

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
In lieu of the '05 Scratch BC recall due to consumer complaints over its "violence towards women", does anybody know what Rossignol is planning to replace it with?
post #2 of 20
No, but great news on the recall!
post #3 of 20
maybe to you
post #4 of 20
Ron, get over it.

The graphic was fine.
post #5 of 20
I was never a fan of that graphic but recalling it is totally pathetic. Sims snowboards have linked up with porn distributor Vivid to display female pornstars over their fader range. Which would you rather explain to your kids - a stylised silhouette of a female face with streks in her neck area, or a photo quality image of two naked girls enbracing?

http://www.snowboardermag.com/news/s...ells_board.jpg
post #6 of 20
My mate had a graphic on the base of his snowbaord of a female model in a bikini. The bikini diappeared when the snowboard got cold. Therefore any jumps he did or tricks in the half pipe the base of the board had a 161cm naked chick on it staring at everyone.

Yippah - more of that.
post #7 of 20
The Seth Pistols have a picture of an angry looking guy shooting a gun. Does this promote violence too?
post #8 of 20
kiwiski, mine don't cause a couple of friends put a Peppermint Patty sticker over his face, so it looks like she's holding the gun!
post #9 of 20
Did you read the commentary by the designer of the scratch design? If not, do so. If the boards were distributed without his boasting about the design I wouldn't care too much as it's pretty much a stretch to see. But the commentary by the designer was totally out of call.
To brag that "It's ah, pretty wild..the way it is done..." "If you look at the silver you will see the woman's face looking up at the sky, next is the neck of the woman, and we can see with the dark section...we see Freddie cutting with his hand the throat of the girl, and the (red) sidewall is the blood of the girl going down." Listening carefully you can hear the cameraman chuckle uncomfortably and after a pause the man continues, "it should be interesting all the riders (or writers, with the man's accent it's unclear) are stoked about that ski, the graphics, so we should do very well." http://www.telemarktips.com/TeleNews36.html

Call me whatever you want, do we really need this? Although the Seth Pistol panders to teenagers who probably never have seen a gun, and have no real idea what a real war zone is like (Compton, red hook, bed sty) it doesn't show someone being shot, I think the message being sent by the Scratch is much more dangerous. So whats' so cool about the ski? It's the fact that a persons throat is being cut. I own guns and bust clay often so I please don't say I'm anti-gun! I am anti-violence and I don't think we really need to promote this kind of crap. As far as naked ladies go on the skis, I think that unless I missed something, it's a silouette and not really a picture of a naked lady. Personally I think it's pretty cool. I think the average teenage girl dressed for school shows off far much skin than the ski or the Vivid boards. I checked out the VIVID/Simms board thing. Hmm, no strippers getting their necks slit or being raped and they are clothed with the exception of a special edition board that I seriously doubt any teeneagers will have the money to buy, neither of the "topless" boards are really topless so, unless a mountain has a policy against chicks in a bikini, halter top, lingerie or their best parts being covered, let em' rip.
post #10 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moose21
My mate had a graphic on the base of his snowbaord of a female model in a bikini. The bikini diappeared when the snowboard got cold. Therefore any jumps he did or tricks in the half pipe the base of the board had a 161cm naked chick on it staring at everyone.

Yippah - more of that.
Was that a store bought board? If so what brand and model? My friend has got to get that!!!
post #11 of 20
I'll find out for you.
post #12 of 20
Play nice. Let's tone down the personal attacks and focus on the issue. Thanks.
post #13 of 20
"Did you read the commentary by the designer of the scratch design? If not, do so. If the boards were distributed without his boasting about the design I wouldn't care too much as it's pretty much a stretch to see. But the commentary by the designer was totally out of call.
To brag that "It's ah, pretty wild..the way it is done..." "If you look at the silver you will see the woman's face looking up at the sky, next is the neck of the woman, and we can see with the dark section...we see Freddie cutting with his hand the throat of the girl, and the (red) sidewall is the blood of the girl going down." Listening carefully you can hear the cameraman chuckle uncomfortably and after a pause the man continues, "it should be interesting all the riders (or writers, with the man's accent it's unclear) are stoked about that ski"

the guy giving the description was not the designer. he is the alpine brand manager/marketing guy for canada. his english on the best of days is average and his translation is sometimes not quite right. the fact that a bunch of whiners got rossi to cahnge the graphic or recall it when most if not all people could not even decipher it is pathetic. if you want to campaign against something fight drunk driving.
your kids and mine have seen worse than this on late night tv already this week.
post #14 of 20
Thread Starter 
So I guess the answer to my question is "no"?
post #15 of 20
They still have the slasher graphics here in NZ. Insted of a reacall would Rossi have been better to just make a statement against voilence towards women and make a donation to womens refuge. Nobody benefits from a recall.
post #16 of 20
I agree with Kiwiski. I for one never asked that they pull the graphics. I Think you will find that they pulled the graphics after people complained. I believe that the market should determine what is offensive. If I find it objectionable, then I have the right to voice that opinion. If so many folks voice the same opinion and sales fall, then the market has forced the change. I kow that on another websitea buyer for a very large west coast ski store refused to buy them for their stores. A statement from Rossi would have gone a long way. If they had not made a splash about the graphics and made a point about pointing them out, I doubt that hardly anyone would have said "boo" about it. What I like to know is how many out there wrote in letters of support? It works both ways.
post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by kiwiski
Nobody benefits from a recall.
I kinda disagree. In the same way that there's no such a thing as bad publicity, I don't believe this recall has done harm. Anyone who has a pair of the recalled skis is now in possession of a rarity - so they will increase in value. Secondly, the amount of publicity that Rossi has received means that more people are talking about their skis, even if some people are negative.

The cynic in me says that it is all just marketing, the launch was marketing, the "bad" publicity and complaints were marketing, and the recall was further marketing. (but that's just me being cynical!)
post #18 of 20
I think Kiwiski meant no one wins in a larger sense, For instance, the skis may be rare now, but Rossi does not realize any of that revenue. The publicity is always good (any press is good press) but the costs to manage the e-mails, letters and negative press, the cost to scrap or re-surface the entire line, the cost to pull stuff back and so on, it's not a financially good thing for Rossi. Any one looking at skiing from the "outside" will percieve this as just another example of those bad-ass skiers and snowboarders and it negatively affects thier attitudes towards all skiers and such. Although we are all disussing this here, the average skier has no idea what went on. The average skier out there probably doesn't even know about last year's graphics either. It's just that we are all more on the hard-core side of skiing, especially those of us here in the states where we still have 5-6 months of dreaded summer until we get back out there.
post #19 of 20
Does anybody have a photo of the skis or a link to it??
post #20 of 20
http://www.telemarktips.com/TeleNews36.html

http://www.telemarktalk.com/phpBB/vi...ignol&start=50

What I find interesting is an entirely different response to the ski on the Telemark site than what is found here. I wonder why?
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