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A Brit in the US??!

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Thread Starter 
I need advice people of the United States! I want to spend this winter (from Jan onwards) somewhere in the States skiing... I have 2 problmes though. No green card as I'm English, so how expensive is accommodation/lift passes etc over several months? And I have no idea where would be the best place to go. I like my sunny weather and I'm not too partial to seriously cold weather (that I've read about in N American resorts)! I have done seasons in France but want to experience something different. And I'm a skier if that makes any difference.... so any advice anyone?! :
post #2 of 17
Welcome to epicski!

The US has a lot of great skiing, depending on what you are looking for is where you should go.

I chose Utah for a few reasons.

1. Snow quality/quantity. Alta got 555 inches of snow last season, and it was really light stuff.

2. There are 9 major resorts within 1.5 hours from Salt Lake City, 7 of which are within 45 minutes, and depending where you live, 4 within 20 minutes.

3. Crowds are nonexistant at some of the resorts.

4. Cost of living is lower than other places.

There are other great areas that you should also check out. The Tahoe area would be an area that I would really look into if I were doing it again. Colorado is great as well, just a little less snow. Wyoming and Montana can be cold, but are have great terrain.

Utah lift tickets are slightly more expensive than Colorado which is a huge minus in my book. A season pass to Alta last year was $875 (US), combo to Alta and Snowbird was $1200. Great snow and a lot of terrain make it worth it though.

Don't tell anybody I told you any of this, they would kill me if I encouraged somebody to move here.

Let me know any questions you have, I am sure that the rest of the bears would be happy to help as well. We could use a good ski conversation right now!

[ July 17, 2002, 08:17 AM: Message edited by: AltaSkier ]
post #3 of 17
If you could combine the physical assets of the SLC ski areas (number of incredible resorts in such close proximity, amount and quality of the snow, almost total lack of liftlines) with the "how-can-they-afford-to-do-this?" season pass prices in Colorado, you would have the perfect North American ski locale.
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Thread Starter 
Thanks guys. What I'm really after is somewhere with: lots of people to meet, a terrain park for freestyle stuff, some bumpm (cos I can't do them but would like to!) and lots of snow! I had heard Alta was good before actually... you're famous already y'know.
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Sounds like Utah may be your best bet. SLC is by far the largest city with great skiing nearby in the US. Montana/Wyoming are generally pretty rural and I get the idea you are not looking for that. Denver is a nice city but it's hours from the best skiing. The worst part of Colorado (for me)is the altitude. In the mountains, you will sleep at altitudes of 7000 to 8600 feet (2100 to 2600 meters)or more in some places, and some people (me)have a hard time with that. Tahoe is nice too and it has gambling if you are into that.
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I would suggest Utah or Tahoe. Both would put you close to a lot of great ski areas. One advantage of Utah is it puts you within sane driving distances to do road trips to Colorado, Wyoming and Southwest Montana. You really should ski Jackson Hole and some of the smaller Montana resorts while over here.
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Hi Penelope,

I am going to throw my hat into this for the Tahoe region of California. Take a look at staying in Reno. It IS the city in the U.S. with the closest international airport to a major ski area. (Mt Rose is just a little over 20 miles from the airport) Reno will keep you entertained at every waking moment you are not on the slopes. You can probably find many better ski deals in the area because there is such a large concentration of ski areas in the Tahoe region, and you will be in a region that specializes in dealing with and handling tourists.(Utah is still working on that concept in many departments)

There are other options also. You might want to look into Glenwood Springs Colorado and Kalispell Montana. If you are planning on working while you are here, I would suggest Glenwood Springs because the Roaring Fork Valley has a relatively small population and winters usually see an excess of jobs available for anyone willing to work.

Have a great time this winter!!
post #8 of 17
I am missing something here? Penelope says she has no green card, so work will be hard to find. Also that she wants to ski. Why stay in Denver, Salt Lake or Reno? It seems like transportation to and from would be a problem. Could she find work "under the table" at the resorts?

I have found that Utah lift tickets are more than here in Colorado. Since your not coming until Jan I do not think you will not be able to get in on the cheap passes for Vail, Keystone, Breck. They usually need to bought in person in early fall. A-Basin may let you order on-line try http://arapahoebasin.com/tickets/. Also Copper Mountain let ppl purchase online last year, I'd check that out as well. If you know someone that lives here you may be able to get a Colorado card that you use to buy by the ticket but at a much-reduced rate. Also you can purchase tickets in advance at www.snow.com for a discount.

Accommodations vary you might be able to find a room for rent at $500-600.00 try looking at
Also look at http://www.summitnet.com/ they have a free classified section that you may want to post for a room.

Good luck!
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Yes, I noted the no green card comment. That is why I mentioned Glenwood Springs. It may not be entirely legal, but employers with a very limited workforce will work whoever is available when the need is there. Year before last I dropped into Glenwood Springs to find myself surrounded by people without credentials working through the winter in the area. They all had the same goal in mind. -- Enjoy the winter fun and help meet expenses with a little work here and there. --

They were all living on a shoestring compared to other places that I mentioned. [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #10 of 17
Here's a few more tidbits: I doubt that you would want to stay in Salt Lake City. It's smoggy, dreary and the people brag about how they can drive like people from Los Angeles! Utah skiing is superb by any standards but Utah has the mormon mentallity and, if you like to have wine with dinner, you can pretty much forget it. You should include Jackson Hole in your itinerary but be prepared for possibly really cold temps. As for California, you'll find the mildest weather here. Our snow, however, is usually really heavy and wet. It requires great strength and stamina. I usually can only do about 5 turns in what we call Sierra cement before I'm out of breath. I've seen Utah skiers become exasperated with it. If you come here, I'd recommend Sugar Bowl for its layed back charm and good skiing, Alpine Meadows is good, Kirkwood is outstanding but isolated and lacking any night life midweek, I wouldn't bother with Heavenly Valley unless you want to visit the casinos at night. Personally, I think Mount Rose (which, incidentally is NOT located on the mountain, Mt. Rose) is preferable to Heavenly. Northstar is a really nice ski area but doesn't have any expert terain to speak of although it has some nice cruising runs. You'll love those cowboys at Jackson!
Best regards, Powderdog.
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Your pound would go further in Canada and you might have more chance of working there as they are part of the Commonwealth. Problem is that it can be colder up there. The coldest area I struck was Banff (sunshine, Lake Louise), but if you head closer to the west coast to areas such as Silver Star, Big White, Whitewater etc, Red Mountain it is not as cold but always below zero.
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I can understand you wanting to get away from those snow-domes and plastic grass.


Good luck

post #13 of 17
Truckee (Tahoe), Jackson Holes, Steamboat Springs, Glenwood Springs, SLC environs or all the Canuck connections JNZ mentions. A nice English girl like you will have no problem working and playing BUT you will need a few grand seed capital to get you rolling.


Oz [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ July 18, 2002, 01:21 AM: Message edited by: man from oz ]
post #14 of 17
Have a look at www.seasonaires.com They do accommodation packages for a season in either Mammoth or Whistler and the prices are pretty good. There's also another company that run the same scheme in Breckenridge - I'll try and dig out the link for you.
Found it! - it's www.rockymountain.co.uk

[ July 18, 2002, 03:08 AM: Message edited by: cappo ]
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I´m also coming to Utah this winter.
I´m looking for cheap lodging, sick backountry and sick park, and nightlife ofcourse.
I´m 18 and from Finland.

Where are you planning to stay Brittish dude?
I don´t have a green card also, so I may have to work illegally.
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I've been debating between moving to either slc or tahoe and have pretty much decided on slc. Although tahoe is great, especially for skiing, I hated the rest of nv from my experience. I've been to the reno/tahoe area, vegas area and points between around a dozen times. My advice is if you are going to do tahoe, stay by the lake.

I am working on moving out to slc with a friend of mine to work at a resort for the winter. We may just live in employee housing in Park City to get the ski town vibe. From there I am probably going to try and get a job more related to my degree and maybe look for cheaper housing in slc.

As for the lack of a green card, don't some resorts sponsor people? I know the recruiting manager for Deer Valley is currently in new zealand for a month recruiting. Try contacting them at jobs@deervalley.com for info.
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