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Buying first pair

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
I am planning on buying my first pair, and I wanted some suggestions reguarding which pair would suit me best. I am a 5'9-10" and 135 pound male,and I usually ski groomed trails/park, and I am known to go off the beaten path through woods and such. I was looking at some twin tipped skis (aka k2 public enemys) and I figured I might as well ask people who have a general idea what they are doing. I, unfortunately, am not rich, so if price could be taken into mind, that would be great. All responses/ideas are appreciated, thanks.
post #2 of 11
Hi P.A.N.T.S.--

Welcome to EpicSki! What do the initials stand for?

As for skis, any twin tip will take care of your needs in the park, as long as they are sized right. And for "light" park use, you don't need twin tips.

Off piste, most twin tips are OK there too, as is any ski that is not TOO narrow or stiff. If you want a serious deep/steep snow ski, you'll want to go wide. But wider skis sacrifice some quickness and edge-holding capability on hard, smooth snow.

The big question is--what do you want those skis to do for you on the groomed trails? Short turns, long turns, carved arcs on hard snow, high speeds...a little of everything? Firm-to-hard smooth snow is where the subtle performance charactistics of a ski really come into play, as far as edge-holding capability, forgiveness, stability, sidecut and natural carving radius, and so on.

You have to recognize that no ski is ideal in all conditions or terrain, so if you're getting only one pair, you have to choose where to compromise. What's your primary concern? How much are you willing to sacrifice capability elsewhere to optimize it for that primary use?

It's not an easy decision! There are, however, some very good all-around skis out there, depending on how you answer the questions above.

I'll take a shot in the dark, just in case it helps: the Elan Mantis series: M8 or M10, in 168cm. (I am an Elan ski rep, so take my possible bias into consideration.) These skis have won rave reviews in this season's ski tests. They are moderately wide, with moderate sidecut, and while not actually "twin-tips," they have obviously turned-up tails. They are fairly high-performance, especially the M10, so they are stable and hold well at speed. I wouldn't recommend the top-of-the-line Mantis 12 for you--it is a good bit stiffer, and especially with your lighter weight, you would find it challenging off-piste.

Best regards,
Bob Barnes
post #3 of 11
PS--I assume that you've already bought a good pair of boots, and that you've had them expertly fitted and set up properly. If not, by all means, please buy those boots first!

Best regards,
post #4 of 11
go with a pair of atomic R:9 of 9.22's there a great ski for an even better price. look at a 170-180.

post #5 of 11
With your weight and preferred terrain, have a look at the new Rossi B1 or some Volkl AX3 24/7. They're both semi twin tips which ride switch fine and can blast the whole mountain. I would advice against Public Enemy's - Fat, soft ski's.
post #6 of 11
What Bob said.
post #7 of 11
Thread Starter 
Thank you all for the help, it will definitely influence my decision. I was also wondering if there is a boot that is relativly low priced that you would recommend? Thanks again!
post #8 of 11
salomon x-wave 10.0 , it's a good boot and that is all that matters [img]tongue.gif[/img]
post #9 of 11
If you're looking for good prices, check out Sierra Trading Post They just got their winter inventory in. Also, look for last year's models, but don't short change yourself on boots. I have an intermediate/advanced pair of skis, and I started out in $100 beginner boots, which promptly got stolen. That was the best thing that happened to my skiing all year. By my second run down the hill, I was carving better, skiing more aggressively, and feeling my connection to the snow like never before. So, defintly check out www.sierratradingpost.com and enjoy that new gear. (It feels just like christmass doesn't it?)
post #10 of 11
As has been stated many, many times here before, the critical issue in boots is FIT. The best advice is not to look at a specific model or brand, but to get to an expert bootfitter- they will look at you, talk with you, and advise you better than anyone.
post #11 of 11
Originally posted by dp:
As has been stated many, many times here before, the critical issue in boots is FIT. The best advice is not to look at a specific model or brand, but to get to an expert bootfitter- they will look at you, talk with you, and advise you better than anyone.
As before I agree with what has been said before.

Spend quite a bit of time making your boots right. Work with a reputable boot fitter. Don't go in with pre-conceived brand notions and work with a good boot fitter who has 3-5 brands available. To save money try boots that did not sell last season and/or the year before. Your boots should be your number one equipment priority this season. Spend the remainder on the skis, bindings & poles. If you like your boots this season you can spend more on skis for next season.

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