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post #1 of 16
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Need some feedback from all you expert. Killington boost that they are the biggest in the east. When I did some research, Sugarloaf seems to have more Ski Acre (1400 vs 1200 (killington)). What about night life, food, condo (ski-in ski out), snow. I heard that Sugarloaf is extremely cold. When I compare Sugarloaf and Killington map side by side, seems like Sugarloaf is nowhere near the size of Killington. That can't be true can it?

[ February 15, 2003, 06:31 PM: Message edited by: newbie ]
post #2 of 16
I've never been to Killington, but I go to Sugarloaf a lot. The reason for the confusion about terrain size is that for total acreage, Sugarloaf allows skiing anywhere within their boundaries and so lists their entire mountain in their total size. But even now, when essentially everything is open, the available developed trail acreage is 485.

It can be cold, but this is Maine, right? The problem on some days is the wind, which can sometimes close the upper lifts. The upper mountain is still often accessible via a surface rope tow -- but who wants to go up there when winds are 80mph at the summit? Having said that, I wouldn't let weather keep you from coming up -- if you dress for the conditions, temps/winds are rarely a problem.

From what I understand about Killington, I don't think Sugarloaf would compare with respect to nightlife. On mountain and area restaurants and bars are there, and sometimes there are concerts at the base lodge on the weekend, but don't come up expecting a lot happening at night. On mountain lodging is good with lots of options for ski in/out. Their website has packages that include lift tickets and lessons and you can usually get pretty good deals. There are off-mountain hotels/B&B that can be cheaper. Check out their lodging page .

Hope this helps. It really is a great mountain.
post #3 of 16
Regarding the size of Killington vs. Sugarloaf... Killington spans six or seven mountains, so it is huge laterally, and dwarfs Sugarloaf in that respect. It is technically possible to ski 3,000 vertical feet at K-Mart, but (as far as I know) there is only one way to do it (and it's really boring). I forget what Sugarloaf's vertical is, but it's no problem to ski all of it on almost every run.

You'd get a lot more skiing in at The Loaf then you would at Killington.

Nightlife at the two doesn't even compare. Sugarloaf is in the middle of nowhere, and yes, they have a built-up base area, so there are some bars, restaurants, etc. there. Killington has a six-mile long access road, that is absolutely packed with nightlife opportunities.

I've only been to Sugarloaf in March, and I've lucked out with the weather -- sunny skies, temps in the 20s. I'm sure it can be miserably cold there in January, but I can assure you that Killington can be too.

Go to Sugarloaf -- you won't be disappointed.
post #4 of 16
OK, for nightlife, Killington wins. Perhaps for size, too, but if you are not an expert skier, expect to deal with many connectors to get from trail to trail. I always find K-mart infinitely colder than any Maine resort. The ski in ski out is a bit less expensive at the Loaf, and accomodations usually include free lessons, if you're into that. If you are not staying on mountain at killington, the surrounding town is about attractive as Newark New Jersey!
k-Mart is an "in your face" sort of mountain. At the Loaf, people seem to be more concerned with the skiing, as opposed to the attitude about skiing.
post #5 of 16
Thread Starter 
Originally posted by gForce:
The reason for the confusion about terrain size is that for total acreage, Sugarloaf allows skiing anywhere within their boundaries and so lists their entire mountain in their total size. But even now, when essentially everything is open, the available developed trail acreage is 485.

I'm confuse :
So you mean that Sugarloaf only have around 485 skiable acre only? Umm that seems small. For a 4 days trip, is Sugarloaf worth it?

[ February 16, 2003, 08:07 AM: Message edited by: newbie ]
post #6 of 16
No, the skiable acreage is over 1000 acres (just not by me : ). The area of developed/cut trails is the 485. It can be confusing.

Yes, it's worth it.
post #7 of 16
I went to Sugarloaf last March for the first time - stayed in a slopeside condo. Despite the fact that it took 4.5 hours to get there, it surely won't be the last time - especially since my nephew is now a sophmore at CVA!

I think 'The Loaf' is the best ski area in New England - and I've been to most of them - I have been to Stowe (a clear contender as well) and Killington (not my cup of tea) - though I've never been to Jay Peak (which I hear is awesome)!

[ February 17, 2003, 10:19 AM: Message edited by: Tominator ]
post #8 of 16
We're at Sugarloaf all the time. Haven't skied at Killington for over 10 years but from what I remember if you are looking for varied terrain, fewer crowds, and alot of good attitudes, check out the loaf. You will also find at the Loaf(and some may disagree I realize)a mountain with an unusually high percentage of impressive skiers-could be the CVA influence, or maybe that the weather and lower key atmosphere brings out a dedicated bunch.
post #9 of 16
The 'loaf is a big mountain that is very impresive when you see it for the first time rounding 'Oh My God' corner. It skis big which some laterally big mountains don't. The trails have imaginative names from the logging industry like Cant Dog, Misery Whip and Bubble Cuffer. The lift served (well some hiking too) snow fields are unique in the east. Quiet night life, great slope side accomodations and good snow magnet.

K'town is a sprawling ski area with lots of nightlife that tries hard to be all things to a wide cross section of skiers and riders. K'ton gets a decent amount of natural snow and makes a lot of snow, but with high skier traffic doesn't last long.

Jay is another great mountain, but not really in K'ton or 'loaf's league in terms of size, but gets great snow and has wonderful glades. Jay doesn't have much nightlife, but Quebec is nearby with lots of great dining and entertainment. Jay's popularity means that the goods get tracked out in a hurry on weekends.
post #10 of 16
At the risk of getting myself into BIG trouble, but what the heck, K-mart attracts the sort of person who truly believes that size matters, in every sense of the word! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Ducking and running....Yikes!!!!!
post #11 of 16
Lisamarie -- founding member of the BKA. Boycott Killington Association.

I've tried to be a card-carrying member of the BKA as well, but Killington does open the gates in November, and the itch hits, and I go, and Lisamarie revokes my membership (again).
post #12 of 16
Aw, I'll forgive ya' Kev!
Hey, anyone want to take the BSSC Sugarloaf trip March 8th weekend?
post #13 of 16
If your going to ski... Go to the Loaf.

If your looking for night life go to the Killing Fields.

Sugarloaf is the only above tree line skiing in the east. It easily has the some of the best terrain period! The map you are looking at is decieving it is really a big mountain. Conditions can be extreme but just plan for it. When the Loaf is good there is nothing better.

I've skied Killington once.....that was enough. I felt like I was in rush hour foot traffic in Grand Central! I'd personally rather ski down instead of sideways, just did not enjoy myself. I think the conditions based on Killingtons location are a bit more hit or miss than Sugarloaf. You'll Killington skied off much faster. Don't get me wrong there are some bulletproof days at Sugarloaf but you typically can find powder somewhere on the mountain.

Go to the Loaf. It's one Big Mother.
post #14 of 16
Ah, I see many kindred souls in this thread.

Sugarloaf is an outstanding mountain. As mentioned, it's clearest strength over Killington is the fact that you can take advantage of its full vertical (nearly 3,00 feet if I recall correctly) on most runs with a fairly consistant pitch. Killington seems to measure its verical from it's highest peak to its lowest parking lot, which may be several miles away. In reality, I don't think you are ever skiing more that about 1,800 feet, unless you really like cross country in alpine gear. Plus, Killington's trail system is really poorly designed. There are far too many intersections of trails, which of course allows for the high trail count since they'll change the trail names at each intersection. Couple this fact with the huge crowds, and it's hard to get a decent, long run in.

Yes, Killington has far more bars and clubs. You know, if I really wanted to pay a $10 cover to go to a club, I'd stay in Boston. Personally, I'm more of an old school, apres-ski type - drinks after last run, then hot tub, then dinner, more drinks and relaxation. Sugarloaf has a perfectly sufficient number of bars to keep most people happy, unless you weight nightlife equal to or greater than skiing.

Go to Killington if you like to party, Sugarloaf if you like to ski. If you are looking for middle ground, go to Stowe. The skiing is as good as the 'Loaf, and there is a multitude of apres-ski options
post #15 of 16
I agree with Dan. middle ground would be stowe or sugarbush
post #16 of 16
don't forget the sister mountain to the loaf, sunday river. Some great skiing there this year, the snow is always good when I go.
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