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post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 
I am trying to get some input on some technical backpacks. Headed to Whistler on 2/5 am thinking about picking up either the "North Face Chilkats Technical Backpack" or the "Mountainsmith Arete Day Tripper Technical Back Pack"
Here are the links:

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=388607&cp=713364.713416.712500 &page=2&pageBucket=0&parentPage=family

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=235139&cp=713364.713416.712500 &page=2&pageBucket=0&parentPage=family

Thanks

D9/jon
post #2 of 25
If youwant a pack optimized for skiing and the back country, take a look at the Arcteryx Khamski. It is pricier than the ones you posted, but you may be able to get a deal in Canada (the company is based in Vancouver, BC). I use the Marmot Eiger, which I like very much (use it for day climbs in the summer, too) and last year's model is currently on sale at Mountain Gear (www.mgear.com) for about $70.00
post #3 of 25
Arc'Teryx sells their Khamski pack for $162.50 CDN ($107 USD) at their outlet store in Vancouver (Grandview, just west of Highway 1).

They are officially seconds - and carry no warranty, but all they seem to have are ultra-minor cosmetic blemishes. Availability is sporadic of all gear in their outlet store.

If you're in Vancouver at all before heading up to Whistler, you might want to call ahead and see if you can pick one up.
post #4 of 25
Thread Starter 
I just found this bag... "Da Kine" is tough to find around here, so I might wait till I get to Whistler to try and find it.

http://www.outmore.com/dakinhelbac.html

I don't want a *huge* bag, rather a relatively small bag to carry my camelbak resevoir and a camera and some odds and ends.

Any input on "Da Kine" bags? I think that is the brand that my buddy has.
post #5 of 25
Get a pack that has a water reservoir built into it. There are several on the market and work well. Make sure you can get one with an insulated tube for winter.
post #6 of 25
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Originally posted by Delta-9:
Any input on "Da Kine" bags? I think that is the brand that my buddy has.
Da Kine makes some nice small packs. They are loaded with features that make them handy for carrying hydration bags, along with avy safety gear. They are also reasonably priced. I use Da Kine on all my day tours. I have the Heli Pro and the Heli Pack, the former being smaller and good for lift-served.
post #7 of 25
Osprey Eclipse series.

The best skiing and winter backcountry packs I have ever seen, used, or sold.

Totally worth the price.
post #8 of 25
Quote:
Originally posted by Delta-9:
I just found this bag... "Da Kine" is tough to find around here, so I might wait till I get to Whistler to try and find it.

http://www.outmore.com/dakinhelbac.html

I don't want a *huge* bag, rather a relatively small bag to carry my camelbak resevoir and a camera and some odds and ends.

Any input on "Da Kine" bags? I think that is the brand that my buddy has.
I looked at that one in a store. It's nice except if you want to carry skis as they'll be across the back (and not one on each side which is better). It's just the right size for a nice day pack and has a place for a snow shovel.

YA
post #9 of 25
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Originally posted by Ladede:
It's (DaKine) nice except if you want to carry skis as they'll be across the back (and not one on each side which is better). It's just the right size for a nice day pack and has a place for a snow shovel.
Actually, I prefer the diagonal ski carry feature of the DaKine pack to the more traditional "teepee" style. It's fast and easy to put the skis onto the pack, and it's easier to put on and take off the pack with the skis diagonal. The mounted skis don't tend to get hung up on things, either.
post #10 of 25
These are hard to beat...

www.wookey.net

I have the Sundog and like it a lot. I've heard the shovel pack is one of the best skiing packs anywhere.
post #11 of 25
For a small, day trip backpack the Dakine Heli Pro can't be beat. The diagonal ski carrying system is fantastic, and it has pockets or slots for a shovel, and quick release tubes for shoel handle and ice axe. Plus a sleeve and hole for a hydration system and the overall unobtrusive size means there is nothing that really comes close in terms of functionality.
post #12 of 25
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Originally posted by terry morse:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ladede:
It's (DaKine) nice except if you want to carry skis as they'll be across the back (and not one on each side which is better). It's just the right size for a nice day pack and has a place for a snow shovel.
Actually, I prefer the diagonal ski carry feature of the DaKine pack to the more traditional "teepee" style. It's fast and easy to put the skis onto the pack, and it's easier to put on and take off the pack with the skis diagonal. The mounted skis don't tend to get hung up on things, either.</font>[/quote]I should tried one then. I've been told by a friend who tried both that the diagonal mount didn't work well because it was hard to balance the skis and they would invariably make the backpack twist. What is your experience with the stability of the backpack with skis? (What lengths are the skis too?)

Thanks,
YA
post #13 of 25
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Originally posted by biker:
These are hard to beat...

www.wookey.net

I have the Sundog and like it a lot. I've heard the shovel pack is one of the best skiing packs anywhere.
The ski carrier is a separate accessory on those packs, right?

YA
post #14 of 25
Quote:
Originally posted by terry morse:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ladede:
It's (DaKine) nice except if you want to carry skis as they'll be across the back (and not one on each side which is better). It's just the right size for a nice day pack and has a place for a snow shovel.
Actually, I prefer the diagonal ski carry feature of the DaKine pack to the more traditional "teepee" style. It's fast and easy to put the skis onto the pack, and it's easier to put on and take off the pack with the skis diagonal. The mounted skis don't tend to get hung up on things, either.</font>[/quote]It carries great, until you try to traverse a steep hill/cliff with the hill/cliff to your right. then it is MISERABLE.

The Osprey Eclipses can be used either A-frame style, or sandwiched and up the center. And they can carry a snowboard if need be. And a shovel. And ice axes. All at the same time. While being stable and comfortable. Without metal stays.

And when they're not carrying all that, the cinch down smaller than a daypack.

I cannot say enough good things about my eclipse 42. Every time I use it, people are like, "holy crap." ... in a good way.
post #15 of 25
Ladede, the ski or snowboard carriers are included accessories on Wookey packs. They ride nice on the back.
post #16 of 25
Quote:
Originally posted by Ladede:
I've been told by a friend who tried both that the diagonal mount didn't work well because it was hard to balance the skis and they would invariably make the backpack twist. What is your experience with the stability of the backpack with skis? (What lengths are the skis too?)

Thanks,
YA
The diagonal ski mount system works well because the centre of gravity of the skis ends up in the centre of the pack so the weight is carried evenly. It is also good that it keeps the tails from hitting your legs (186 cm length skis). The only (minor) criticism I have is that it would be nice if you could carry the skis diagonally either way. When you are walking across a steep slope with the bank on your right the tails can hit the snow, but this happens either way with the teepee style.
post #17 of 25
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The ski or snowboard carriers are included accessories on Wookey packs. They ride nice on the back.
Not since January 1st. Apparently their website has not been updated but their catalog lists them separately now. The pack prices have been lowered so the overall costs should not differ too much. Wookey has also changed their line slightly. The Sundog is a little bigger and the Couloir is completely changed. If you request a brochure off the website you'll get the updated catalog.

[ February 01, 2003, 09:29 PM: Message edited by: biker ]
post #18 of 25
I have a Wookie Juggernaut, which is larger than the Sundog and Couloir, and I like it a lot. My wife has a Couloir and my brother in law has a Sundog. We like them all. The materials are beefy and the ski carry system works well for skis and much more. If they now come separately, also get the snowboard carry system for pads, fishing rod cases, etc.
post #19 of 25
If you are looking for around a 2400 ci pack, the BCA Stash http://www.bcaccess.com/bcaproducts/stashpacks.php is tough to beat. It's only around 2lbs, carries skis well, has an insulated hydration system and most everything else I need. DaKine makes nice packs (I have the heli pro) but a similar sized DaKine pack (poacher)weighs about twice as much as the BCA Stash. I'm not into carrying excess weight up hill so I picked up the Stash for a recent week of ski touring . Great pack.
post #20 of 25
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Originally posted by Montana Horn:
I have a Wookie Juggernaut, which is larger than the Sundog and Couloir, and I like it a lot. My wife has a Couloir and my brother in law has a Sundog. We like them all. The materials are beefy and the ski carry system works well for skis and much more. If they now come separately, also get the snowboard carry system for pads, fishing rod cases, etc.
Which one would you get between the Couloir and the Sundog? Wookey says the Sundog is more verstile, so for an all-year round pack, would the Sundog plus the shovel accessory be the right thing? That would weigh a couple ounces more than the Couloir but maybe be more versatile in summer?

Also, does anybody have experience with Osprey packs?

TIA,
YA
post #21 of 25
All DaKines are great packs (pers. fav. Chute), but I too like to carry skis A-frame instead of diagonally. You might want to check out Deuters Freeride, Explorer (happy owner of the 35 l), and Guide series. Ortovox has good ones too. Life-Link, Mammut, Black Diamond, the list goes on and on...

www.deuter.com
www.ortovox.com
www.life-link.com
www.mammut.com
www.bdel.com

Just check that all packs have a reservoir (or ability), slots/compartments for probes, shovels, and a thermos maybe (you like that hot chocolate, don´t you?), ice-axe´s, snowshoes. Also good compression straps and of course a fit that works with your back.

[ February 17, 2003, 02:33 AM: Message edited by: stef ]
post #22 of 25
Stef,

Thanks for the links. The Ortovox powder packs look great when one just wants a shovel and some hydration. I could slip my camelback in one of those for the light days...

Flip,

I did look at the Eclipse 42 and it looks great. I like the fact that it can be open from the back with the skis still strapped in, that's great (like the Dakine guide). It looks like it could be a great all year round pack too. How small can you get it down too with the straightjacket? I think I'll go try one in a local store.

YA
post #23 of 25
Another vote for Sundog. I put shovel inside and have straps for skis. Can't comment on the shovel attachment. Very stable, compresses well when not full, good adjustment range for better fit.
post #24 of 25
Stef,

Thanks for the links. The Ortovox powder packs look great when one just wants a shovel and some hydration. I could slip my camelback in one of those for the light days...

Actually, the Top Rider 25 looks awesome. I like the spine protector, especially given how much my back hurts now after doing some bouncing of rocks 10 days ago (luckily, no spine injury, just a badly bruised trapeze muscle). I am @$%^#$&^%* at myself for not seeing it on T-P's Web site, since I ordered from them just hours ago. Dang.

Flip,

I did look at the Eclipse 42 and it looks great. I like the fact that it can be open from the back with the skis still strapped in, that's great (like the Dakine guide). It looks like it could be a great all year round pack too. How small can you get it down too with the straightjacket? I think I'll go try one in a local store.

YA

[ February 17, 2003, 04:47 PM: Message edited by: Ladede ]
post #25 of 25
Quote:
Originally posted by Ladede:

Flip,

I did look at the Eclipse 42 and it looks great. I like the fact that it can be open from the back with the skis still strapped in, that's great (like the Dakine guide). It looks like it could be a great all year round pack too. How small can you get it down too with the straightjacket? I think I'll go try one in a local store.

YA
It compresses down to literally zero volume. It would hold a powerbar tightly if that's all you had left. You'll still have a bunch of foam packed tightly to your back and a biggish waist belt, but there's no metal so it's really flexible. Can still carry a pair of skis on the outside too even with an empty pack. Really nice if you're hiking from somewhere warm to somewhere cold... like Mt. Washington in the spring. It'll fit my boots (easier to hike in snowclogs than skin up in the Spring), skis, shovel, and layers on the way up. And skis just fine almost empty on the way down.

The back loading is really nice in the winter, opens up like a cardboard box, and keeps snow out of your business. Awesome in the summer too although it lacks lots of external pockets which backpacking bags seem to have. It is kind of annoying that your buddy can't access it while it's on your back, but nothing is perfect. And the mesh pockets aren't good for water bottles... it's really designed for a bladder. I definitely use it year round... but your best bet is to just play around with it in the store and see if it's intuitively simply or annoyingly different.
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