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Is Copper the place?

post #1 of 21
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My son and I are planning his spring break for mid March and we have decided on Copper Mountain. Never been there. He is a boarder, please forgive him, so this seems like a good spot. Any disagreements?

What about accomodations? Any suggestions? We like ski in, ski out stuff and can afford it. However, I would also like to be near enough to town to turn he and his buddy loose without worry. They are 15.

Think we'll rent a car on this one. What other resorts are close enough for the day?

Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks, Cio
post #2 of 21
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Originally posted by cio457:
My son and I are planning his spring break for mid March and we have decided on Copper Mountain. Never been there. He is a boarder, please forgive him, so this seems like a good spot. Any disagreements?
I think you'll like it. Lots of great terrain for both of you.

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What about accomodations? Any suggestions? We like ski in, ski out stuff and can afford it. However, I would also like to be near enough to town to turn he and his buddy loose without worry. They are 15.
Copper doesn't have a town, but the center village area has lots of shops and restaurants. So I'm not sure if you're looking for two mutually exclusive things. A town would mean somewhere like Frisco.

Ski-in would mean something like Copper's center village. Each condo is different, so it's kind of hard to recommend something. All of the premium units ("Gold"?) are very similar. From there things get hazy. There are some awesome "Silver" and "Bronze" units. If you don't want to go with the Gold units, I'd suggest any unit in Spruce Lodge, Copper Junction, or Telemark Lodge. You'll be right at the lift and have a chance at a better than average unit.

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Think we'll rent a car on this one. What other resorts are close enough for the day?
From Copper:

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  • Keystone, 20 minutes (boring)</font>
  • Breckenridge, 25 minutes (less boring, more crowded)</font>
  • Vail, 25 minutes (great skiing, your son will hate the flat traverses)</font>
  • Beaver Creek, 40 minutes (not very crowded, nice groomers, easy terrain to navigate)</font>
  • Aspen area, less than 2 hours</font>
  • Loveland, 30 minutes (fun, but not a "resort")</font>
post #3 of 21
Copper has the best terrain that I've skied in CO (Keystone, Breck, Vail) and is better than Solitude, PC, Canyons, DV or Brighton in Utah. Lots of boarders at Copper and they have decent terrain parks. Copper has it all...steep mogul runs, steep open cruising trails, steep to moderate bowl skiing, intermediate cruising area and a separate beginners area. I wasn't that impressed with their marked tree skiing, but I'm guessing the locals know the real spots. The snow in March is decent, but every time I've been, I missed the "dump of the month" by a week.

There are tons of walk in/out condos, but not that many ski in/out condos...most of those are older and actually cheaper. I've stayed in a ski in/out condo twice (2 different units) that I found on Vacation Rentals By Owner dot com (www.vrbo.com). We paid less than $200 night as recently as 2001. You deal directly with the owners so you're not paying management company fees. I've had very good luck dealing with the owners and never had any hiccups.

There are 2 separate "villages" at Copper that are about 3/4 mile apart. Lots of shuttles between the 2 so getting around is not an issue. They were doing a lot of development in the "main" village last time I was there.
post #4 of 21
Copper is a great place, and you could probably set up a private lesson with our own Bob Barnes!

Breck is a great place for evening entertainment, and easy if you have a rental car. There are some diversions in Copper, especially if your teens hook up with others they might meet in the terrain park during the day.
post #5 of 21
One word. No.

The snow reports Tell the story,

http://www.coppercolorado.com/winter...in/snow_report

http://www.parkcitymountain.com/wint...1_Snow_Report/

Park City is pretty small and while not all of the skiing is ski in/ski out, lift access is pretty good in most places. If you didn't want to rent a car you could shuttle from the air port (about 30-45 mins depending on weather). The Canyons, PCMR and Deer Valley are 15 mins from downtown Park city. Alta, Snowbird, Solitude and Brigtion are within an Hour and Snowbasin (site of 2002 Olympic Downhill) is about 1.5 hours away. Why got to CO when they are having and off snow year ? Park City has gotten twice the snow copper has so far this year, and it keeps comming.

Once I skied utah, I haven't skied anywhere else. Hey, I even MOVED here...

Lonnie
post #6 of 21
**yawn**

We're not having an "off snow year", we're having a very average year. Compared to the past few winters where things have been better than average it just doesn't seem as good.

Either way, I'm soooooo over hearing about how much more snow Utah gets compared to Colorado. Does it make for great skiing? Of course. But in no way can you just look at the amount of snowfall and predict what the skiing is like. Utah ALWAYS gets more snow than Colorado. However, most resorts in Colorado can open about 50% of their terrain with less than 20" under foot and it's not even noticable. It's very difficult to do that in Utah. A 40" base here is completely normal.

To make things more fun, we're talking about mid-March. I'll go out on a limb and predict that Utah and Colorado will be skiing on the best snow of the season by then. What will turn it into an Epic day would be a localized storm that dumps a few feet of snow. If any of us could predict that right now we'd likely have all our vacation plans made.
post #7 of 21
Cold Temps + Lots of Snow = Awesome Skiing. That's what we've had recently. Some of the best condtions I can remember. Even with a the ability to open on a low base, if you like skiing powder, and lots of it, it's hard to beat the Wasatch's Cottonwood Canyons. 500" per year vs. 350" per year, no contest. No matter how much you want to, you can't beat it.

One thing I forgot, How many hours from the Denver airport is Summit County ? Two? 3 or more if it's snowing. Why spend time driving when you can spend it on the slopes? I talk to people everyday that say "I used to ski Colorado, until I came to Utah...." (Including me before I moved here.)

There's nothing wrong with Colorado skiing, but I MY opinion, Utah's MUCH better. Plus with the Salt Lake Valley so close, you don't get reamed on your lodging either. If folks want to go to CO. fine, but if you haven't give us a try. I think you'll be pleasantly suprised.

http://www.skiutah.com/

[ January 04, 2004, 04:13 PM: Message edited by: Lonnie ]
post #8 of 21
Thread Starter 
Thanks Lonnie. We've been to Utah and loved it. Looking for some diversions. I know I'll be back in Utah soon.

Thanks, Cio
post #9 of 21
If you want to be close in town to let your son and his buddy loose, stay in Breckenridge. There is a rec center with climbing wall, pool, etc. that is accessible by the free town bus. If you stay off of 4'OClock Road, you can walk to town in a couple of minutes. The 4'OClock area is ski in and you can walk to the lift. Copper is an easy drive if you decide to ski there.

Nancy
post #10 of 21
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Originally posted by Lonnie:
Cold Temps + Lots of Snow = Awesome Skiing. That's what we've had recently. Some of the best condtions I can remember. Even with a the ability to open on a low base, if you like skiing powder, and lots of it, it's hard to beat the Wasatch's Cottonwood Canyons. 500" per year vs. 350" per year, no contest. No matter how much you want to, you can't beat it.

One thing I forgot, How many hours from the Denver airport is Summit County ? Two? 3 or more if it's snowing. Why spend time driving when you can spend it on the slopes? I talk to people everyday that say "I used to ski Colorado, until I came to Utah...." (Including me before I moved here.)

There's nothing wrong with Colorado skiing, but I MY opinion, Utah's MUCH better. Plus with the Salt Lake Valley so close, you don't get reamed on your lodging either. If folks want to go to CO. fine, but if you haven't give us a try. I think you'll be pleasantly suprised.

http://www.skiutah.com/
What you also forgot to mention is that the crowds are FAR less in Utah. IMO, that makes for as big a difference as the better snow & terrain. What good is skiing there when you have to look over your shoulder every turn? Whatever measly pow they do get is tracked out in a few hours, not days like in the Wasatch. It just make for better skiing when the place doesn't get so mobbed.

Powdr
post #11 of 21
Thread Starter 
This string left me with one question. Of all the spots in CO, which would be considered the least crowded? Most popular? Best as to the considered opinion of those on this website?
Thanks, Cio
post #12 of 21
How's about "Crusty Butt" in March? I had a good time there a few years back. Close to the town. Not crowded. Cheaper. March is when they get the most snow.

cheers.
post #13 of 21
In CO, I'd go with Telluride for less crowds. I've got two kids, 14 and 17, and they've been going into town unattended for 4 years with
no problems. Great ski in ski out in Mountain Village. It's pricy, but in your 1st post you mentioned cost is not a huge issue.
post #14 of 21
http://www.skiutah.com/[/qb][/quote]What you also forgot to mention is that the crowds are FAR less in Utah. IMO, that makes for as big a difference as the better snow & terrain. What good is skiing there when you have to look over your shoulder every turn? Whatever measly pow they do get is tracked out in a few hours, not days like in the Wasatch. It just make for better skiing when the place doesn't get so mobbed.

Powdr[/QB][/quote]

GMAFB,
Yea! Some Areas in Utah have been Kicking Colorados *** in snow amounts. But lets not forget Wolf Creek, ( I was born in South Fork) , Siliverton, & Steamboat. This is & always will be SKI COUNTRY USA! I will state only facts, More people (4 times as many) Ski Colorado fact!, Better deals in Colorado fact! More resorts & lifts in Colorado fact! Longer season in Colorado fact! Higher Mts in Colorado fact! More vertical ft. in Colorado fact!
They forget to tell you that there is never a line for the Tram at Snowbird, & they never close Big & Little Cottonwood Canyon! I also forget how much fun it is getting a cold drink @ the end of the day when you have to listen to some jack & his four wives fill you in on the story of Evolution!
post #15 of 21
Mr. Vertical is an idiot, fact!

More people ski in CO? And that is a good thing?

Higher mountains? And that is supposed to be better how?

Silverton (which I know you haven't skied), Wolf Creek & Steamboat, all have much LESS snow than Alta, Snowbird, Powder Mountain & Brighton. BWAHAHA!

More this & that? Been reading the Colorado marketing brochure lately?

How about this: CO has been steadily losing out of state skiers every year since the 90's , fact! Reason? Because skiers are starting to realize that Disney skiing is sooo boring and last year.

Powdr
post #16 of 21
Sorry jr . but yes I have skied Silverton Mountain Fact!
I enjoy you opinions! Hows the Brown Stew of Salt Lake City?
You know that haze of foul smelling pollution so thick you can't see the Mts that Salt Lake is so famous for in January! One more reason I won't go back! You can keep your Promised Land!
post #17 of 21
P.S. better proof-read your post before you call anybody an idiot, that last sentence tells it all pal!
post #18 of 21
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Originally posted by Mr. Vertical:
Sorry jr . but yes I have skied Silverton Mountain Fact!
I enjoy you opinions! Hows the Brown Stew of Salt Lake City?
You know that haze of foul smelling pollution so thick you can't see the Mts that Salt Lake is so famous for in January! One more reason I won't go back! You can keep your Promised Land!
Again, your utter lack of knowledge becomes more & more apparent. If you spent any time reading where l'm from (hint: look at the bottom of every one of my posts) you would know that l spend about as much time in Salt Lake as you do at Silverton: none. Your comments about SLC smog mean to me as much as a comment about Denver smog. BTW: that's the kettle calling the pot black.

Did you not understand my Disney comment? l think l understand why. You just don't get it. I won't even try to explain. Have a nice life in that marketing brochure world you live in!

Powdr
post #19 of 21
What i like about Utah compared to Colo is that what i have skied in Colorado(limited i admit) is runs cut into the treeline, (except for Vail's back bowls). I have skied 7 mtns in Utah and you pretty much ski the whole mountain. It is like the mtn is your playground, all kinds of chutes, and little nooks and crannies to explore. Vail's bowls are nice but the whole front side is just these runs like you can find anywhere. No real character and alot of traverses. So i hate to make the Colo people feel bad, because i live in the nothing Poconos of Pennsylvania where i don't even bother to go skiing, except xc, but Utah rules! And the dumps. I've been skiing there over 20 years and i have had Sooooo many powder days on my 4 day trips, it seems like the last 7 trips it has been snowing, snowing snowing. And for an advanced skier, powder is what it is all about. Who wants to ski week old hard and even dangerous moguls. I love the soft stuff. the freefall is what it is all about. on the other hand - for someone that doesn't get alot of skiing in, or an intermediate, i might recommend colorado. the atmosphere is nicer(shops, ski crowd downtown) for someone who wants that. not really much skiing atmosphere in SLC. i've stayed at the cliff at snowbird many times, but now it is just as well to stay in town for $60/nt which includes decent breakfast and a $40 lift ticket. also i'm a busy professional guy with family left back home, and i go out for 3 nights from Pa., ski half days on Thurs/Sun, full Fri/Sat and that is all the skiing i need or can take. I'm a snowbird lover and i think the Bird rules for advanced skiers(Alta is no match(traverse, traverse, run out) and more for intermediates or the retro crowd with snowflake sweaters). I was just out with 3x 13 year old girls and they skied soft powder all over the mountain, colo would have been runs cut in trees. let gravity be your guide. First time at Powder Mtn and Snowbasin and now i find more great skiing in Utah!!! Not too impressed with run out and long flatty's of The Canyons, much of their claimed acreasge is gnarly in between trees. why bother.
post #20 of 21
Children Children Children can we all play nice? Colorado Wyoming, Idaho,Utah,New Mexico all have Great skiing! Damn Now the People from Washinton Calif and Oragon are going to jump in and give me crap! Anyway, I would love to go ski Wolf Mountain or maybe even Silverton sometime. Might even give Vail another try. Hay the guy just wanted to take his kid skiing in Colorado and ask for some advice. It is his dime so let him have fun in Co. The thing is They all have thier good points and thier bad Points. I love living here in Utah. Park City is a Great town to live work and play. I feel I am a pretty lucky guy to be able to live here. I'm sure those that live in Steamboat or Crested Butt feel the same about thier little corner of the world. Really whats with this whole utah VS. Colorado thing. It's the Skiers in Idaho I feel sorry for [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img]
post #21 of 21
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Thanks for the info guys. Enjoy.
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