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post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
Greetings,

My wife and I are beginning to plan a ski trip out west in late January or early February. We have been to Aspen, Utah 2x, and Banff/LL and would like to try something new, preferably in Colorado, Wyoming or New Mex. We will be avoiding holiday weeks. I am low advanced and my wife high intermediate and we like challenging cruisers, easier glades, and somewhat steep terrain (we liked Aspen Mtn, Alta and Solitude). Our list of priorities are the following:

1. Good snow (ie likelihood of having good coverage and chance of powder)
2. Smaller Crowds
3. Ski-in/Ski-out
4. Long runs
5. Authentic town (as opposed to what I have heard of Vail)
6. Good Food (not necessarily gourmet)
7. Beautiful Scenery
8. Interesting local culture.
9. We live in DC and want to get away from the rush and traffic; so we are looking for low key.

Any thoughts would be really appreciated. Thanks!

[ August 01, 2003, 11:36 AM: Message edited by: snowflier ]
post #2 of 23
Depending on how high the intermediate, Jackson Hole has most of what you want. There is a real town, but it's 10 miles or so from the ski area. Shuttle buses can take you to and fro. The food's not gourmet, but it's very good. I also wouldn't describe Jackson Hole as "low key," but it's not "high key" in the city sense. Jackson Hole has a great personality to it.

I also wouldn't rule Vail out merely because the town didn't exist before 1962. As a high intermediate, your spouse would fall in love with the back bowls and Blue Sky Basin (and you'd have a good time too). At the time you're contemplating, with the exception of President's week, the crowds at Vail are small enough not to be a bother.

PM me if you have any questions. I think you'd be happy with either of the above two.
post #3 of 23
I recommend Lech am Arlberg www.lech.at It has everything you are looking for. It is the town that places like Vail are trying to be, except that it is real. You can do intermediate cruisers for miles, and there will be off-piste terrain right next to them that you can try your hand at. Flying to Zurich is only a little longer than some western resorts, and closer than others. It's also pretty inexpensive.
post #4 of 23
Try New Mexico... here is a thread with pics from my trip in early December last season.

You may need to register with ImageStation to access the pics, but it only takes a second, and it's worth it.
post #5 of 23
Will second JamesDeluxe on this. Taos, Santa Fe, and Angel Fire will meet your ski desires and respective abilities. I LOVED the low-key NM vibe, as well as the beauty of the area. Your dining needs will be met, and them some. We didn't even get to Red River, Sipapu, Ski Rio, or Pajarito mountains, other ski choices in the area.
You won't find the "long runs" you'll find at Snowmass, for example, but Angel Fire offers up plenty of terrain and twisty, fun cruisers.
Not a lot in the way of real or sustained "steeps," except at Taos, of course, in which case you might be walking a little. Santa Fe and Angel Fire's steeper pitches were fairly brief.

Re "ski in/out," this would entail staying in Taos Ski Valley. There is no lodging at Ski Santa Fe, and the lodging at Angel Fire, while being plentiful, is not, as I recall, right on the mountain. A check of their website will tell one way or the other.


Any questions, drop me a PM.

[ August 01, 2003, 08:28 AM: Message edited by: ryan ]
post #6 of 23
Snowflier,

All comments above have considerable merit; but it read to me like your priorities described Telluride.

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post #7 of 23
Quote:
Originally posted by snowflier:

1. Good snow (ie likelihood of having good coverage and chance of powder)
2. Smaller Crowds
3. Ski-in/Ski-out
4. Long runs
5. Authentic town (as opposed to what I have heard of Vail)
6. Good Food (not necessarily gourmet)
7. Beautiful Scenery
8. Interesting local culture.
9. We live in DC and want to get away from the rush and traffic; so we are looking for low key.
Wengen.
No cars allowed in parts of the town.
Many runs > 4 miles
Totally Authentic
Scenery better than you'll find on a chocolate box
Ski down from Piz Gloria, and live out your James Bond dream!

S
post #8 of 23
If you want low key with ski in/ski out consider Red Mountain by Rossland, BC. Rossland is a neat old mining town that is just starting to get developed. Red Mountain is uncrowded with no lift lines. The ski in/ski out really is ski in then walk back to the lifts. The biggest drawbacks to Red Mountain are its hard to get to (which is one reason it hasn't been corrupted yet) and the entire mountain is steep (there is very little intermediate terrain). One interesting aspect of Red Mountain is it has a high number of Aussies there as both employees and skiers which made for fun conversations on the lifts and in the bars (funny, we didn't seem to bump into Aussies any place else while there).
post #9 of 23
Quote:
Originally posted by Wear the fox hat:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by snowflier:


Wengen.
Ski down from Piz Gloria, and live out your James Bond dream!
S
</font>[/quote]Is that where they filmed the opening chase scene in "For Your Eyes Only?" Just saw it last weekend.
post #10 of 23
No, but it is where they filmed a lot of On Her Majesty's Secret Service

S
post #11 of 23
I would be careful about New Mexico due to ample snow/coverage/powder being #1 on the list.

I'm going to mention two towns because they remind me a little of Banff.

Steamboat is first. It gets a lot of snow and a lot of powder. It is a great little town. The second is Winter Park. I would say you will see fewer people at WP, however, Steamboat at off peak times isn't busy.

Steamboat has good places to eat. Ski in/out is certainly available. The hot springs provide local "culture". Lots of long cruisers. All the scenery in Colorado is nice. If you want breathtaking views go to Summit County. Almost everywhere has a "backside" view.

You want a real town....stay in Geaorgetown and ski Loveland or A-Basin. In terms of local color the mayor is a topless dancer.

[ August 01, 2003, 04:20 PM: Message edited by: Rusty Guy ]
post #12 of 23
Hey Rusty- I thought she was recalled.
post #13 of 23
sounds like a corvair....you may be right I have no idea.
post #14 of 23
a corvair might be the right comparison- didn't they explode if you hit them in the rear?
post #15 of 23
Eeeaaasy now!
post #16 of 23
I think the corvair was merely deemed unsafe at any speed.
post #17 of 23
Thread Starter 
Thanks to everyone for all the input. We are deciding between Jackson Hole and Steamboat. I have a lot of good leads on lodging for JH, but could use some tips on moderate slopeside and in-town lodging for SB. Does anyone know anything about Thunderhead Lodge? Is Ski Time Square the center of the base area? And would it be a good place to stay? Thanks again.
post #18 of 23
Ski Time Square is at the base area at Steamboat. As I said in my p.m. keep in mind there is a base area for the mountain and the town. They are three miles or so apart. The base area for the skiing is relatively small in terms of western ski resorts with a few retail shops, bars, food places, etc.
post #19 of 23
> ...but could use some tips on moderate slopeside and in-town lodging for SB...

For reasonable in-town lodging in Steamboat, try the venerable Rabbit Ears Motel.

http://www.rabbitearsmotel.com/home.shtml

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Rev..._Colorado.html

I believe I first stayed there around 1977, and the last time I was there was a couple of years ago and both times (and in between), I came away with the same impression: nothing fancy, but clean, reasonable rates, walking distance to all the downtown restaurants, the hot springs are right across the street, and it seems to be staffed with nice people. That's about all I ever need in a ski motel.

Tom / PM
post #20 of 23
I agree with feal. Sounds like you described Telluride.
post #21 of 23
Thread Starter 
Yeah, Telluride sounds great, I'm saving that one for an extended trip. It costs about twice what I'm used to spending on a flight out West.
post #22 of 23
Ofthe resorts I've skied then Jackson Hole would fit the bill. Skiing for everyone from beginners to expert experts, long runs through gorgeous powder on the Hobacks and elsewhere. Award winning ski school. Beautiful scenary. Slopeside accom if you don't want to stay in Jackson. Along with loads of other hits on your preferences.

Of the places I've not skied but heard about then Telluride sounds a close match.
post #23 of 23
Snowflier,
If I was going I would Ski the Summit, Make Breckeniridge the area to base out of (Nice town) then you could ski the following areas on the same ticket, A-basin ,Keystone, & Vail. You would have the chance to Ski Loveland,Copper, Bever Creek all less the a 60 min drive out of Breck. Dont get me wrong Steamboat is a Great place but you get more bang for the buck in the Summit if you start looking on the internet in Sept. for deals, 4 packs for $80 Loveland & Copper If you do Steamboat, I have bunked down at the West condos,about a 5min walk to the lifts & $100 a night less then the rooms at the base area. Check out www.airtran.com for a good deal on the air fair!

[ August 11, 2003, 05:13 PM: Message edited by: Mr Vertical ]
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