Sacremento California - anyone?

hey ziggyskier im studying in ucdavis which is a small town just 5 minutes west of Sacramento. THe city in my honest opinion is quite dull when compared to san fransisco and my home southern california. It is the 6th most polluted city in America and not in much of fun entertainment for kids and the fine arts is a shadow compared to san fransisco with its multitudes of museums and theatres. ON the plus side sacramento is within an hour and a half of Napa Valley which i seem to take that you may be an enthusiast or connesuire(cant spell worth a ---). Some of the big names like R. Mondavi and BV vineyards are there as well as dozens of smaller wineries. like many big cities there are many places some good and some not so good for raising kids. THe land is cheap in east sacramento so good housing is available. Whereabouts are u planning to move/work too. All in all a fair place to live and only 1.5 hrs away from some nice resorts!

even closer to Sacramento is Amador county which is home to quite a few fine vineyards. They make a lot of great Zinfandel up there.

I've lived in sac for about 20 years now. Contrary to what the gloomy Davis guy said (I sure as hell hope he's not an English major)there is a fairly active, though local arts and music scene, ranging from a good local theatre run by Tim Busfield to touring music/theatre acts. UC Davis just opened the Mondavi Center which seems to be having several events a week. It is, of course, not San francisco, but the city is only a couple of hours away.

Weather...hot in the Summer. Otherwise temperate. Can have weeks of overcat/fog in the Winter.

Kids? Don't have any...all I know is that they are too noisy in restaurants.

Dining...we eat. Lots of Asian especially as there is a very large immigrant population here.

Wine...I simply do not understand the interest people have in wineries, as opposed to the wine. They are factories that usually smell bad. I especially love the morons who want to go to Napa during harvest, when the hills are brown and the roads clogged with grape gondolas (rant over).I love what they produce however. Amador and El Dorado counties in the foothills east of Sac are making kick ass reds...evreything from zin to sangioveese to Spanish and Rhone varieties. Lodi, to the South, is making some good zins. In Clarksburg, Southwest, there are a number of good wineries making all varieties. UC Davis is, by far, the premier viticulture and enology school in the country and maybe the world.

Recreation..as you mentioned, Tahoe is 1.5-2 hrs away, 2 is more like it. All the skiing you can use...good bc access too if you're into that. Lots of fishing on the American and sac rivers. Pretty active running, rowing, biking, boating communities/groups.

Housing prices are cheap relative to the Bay, but this is California. You're apt to have some sticker shock unless you're coming from an urban area.

I don't know if there are any other Bears here, but there are a few powdermaggots running around.

also home to a so-so semi-pro basketball team, if you like your hoops on the whiney side.

oh yah as iruletublo said the ucdavis mondavi center opened this year we occasionaly get prominent speakers like Bill Clinton and stephen hawking and classical as well as um not so classical musical and theatrical performances. Im curious by the way irul and ublo why do u hope im not an english major?(im a history and mechanical engineering major by the way)

Could be your heavy reliance on punctuation but then what is style question mark

[ May 15, 2003, 07:40 AM: Message edited by: ryan ]

What ryan said. Plus, there's that 4th grade level spelling. But that's o.k., engineers don't need to communicate.

[ May 15, 2003, 09:18 AM: Message edited by: irul&ublo ]

Engineers do need to communicate there are very few that can work successfully without any communication skills as for my spelling im sorry that my disregard for your high expectations of grammer and language disturbs you. I usually dont bother on these public forums where its more the content that matters than ones spelling.

"grammer".....bwaaahahahahahahaha. You were trying to be funny, right?

[ June 17, 2003, 08:51 AM: Message edited by: irul&ublo ]

not one bit

zigg,

Also from sac. Nobody commented on schooling, which I've heard is better at new facilities in east Roseville and Folsom (just east of sacramento) than the city itself - - - many people move here from bay area last few years. Housing prices rising fast, but relatively low compared to rest of state for metro areas, and you can still get nice house and acreage for really good prices a little farther out (e.g. placerville) - which puts you closer to southlake/kirkwood if a consideration. If you really want to feel the pulse of the city, you can lay out bigbucks and live in good neighborhoods. Big part of city/county is strip-mall and/or bad element so you need to be selective or else.

For summer, I golf and fish. Rivers with salmon and shad in valley, many other montane fly-fishing opportunities within days drive.

Not too bad.