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post #1 of 26
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Aprox. prices per person room for 2 ,for skiweeks in Las Lenas starting on

july 7 $600
july 12 $620
july 19 or 26 $750
august 2 or 9 or 23 $600
august 16 $620
august 30 to closing time $450
( normally first week of october )

Bus BA-LL-BA $ 70
Plane BA-LL-BA $ 300

For specific info mail Passport/adventure factory( in english )
adventurefactory@yahoo.com.ar It's getting colder in Buenos Aires , I bet it's much colder in the mountains. YEAH!!!!

[ May 19, 2003, 01:03 PM: Message edited by: extreme veteran ]
post #2 of 26
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I forgot to say that prices for 4 or more persons per room are much cheaper !
Good luck on this Martes 13 ( Here Tuesday the 13th is like your Friday the 13th ) :
post #3 of 26
Extreme

The travel agency recomendation you gave me Adventure Factory qouted me these prices:

The skiweek price, per person in american dollars , from august 2 to august 9 per person for 4 people in the room is :

In Atenas, Tebas, Esparta, Atenas apartments $431

In Cirrus or Dormys:$397

This price includes

7 nights lodging

Full furnished room with kitchen

Daily room cleaning

Ski lockers

Weekly unlimited ski pass

Insurance

Travel coordinator

Pretty good i'd say.....still looking. I'm scraping the idea of staying outside of LL, unless LL is booked. Thxs for some very good info.......next question:

What bus company would you recommend from Mendoza to LL?
post #4 of 26
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Quote:
Originally posted by PHXSNBDER:
Extreme

Pretty good i'd say.....still looking. I'm scraping the idea of staying outside of LL, unless LL is booked. Thxs for some very good info.......next question:

What bus company would you recommend from Mendoza to LL?
OK , is about the same prices they gave me for the info I posted,and the prices I would pay . [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

I will post some photos of the apartments soon . they are not luxury but nice with wood covered walls and VERY good heating .
The sauna is in the basement ,in some apts,and you have to make a reservation , one couple at a time .
Remember that the LL village is very small, I call it LUNAR BASE las lenas because when full of snow looks like a sci-fi movie set.

NOTHING is more than 2 blocks from a lift, and some apts like esparta is some feets from the one of the POMAS .
The only reason you have to walk even a step is because they discourage skiing in the streets.
I insist : if you know the country , drive a car and go there for less than a week( it's very difficult to " split" skiweeks) or somebody in the group is not a skier , staying out of LL is an interesting a sometimes cheaper option ,
but for a skiweek of pure skiing .is better to stay there.

There are also much inexpensive alternatives in other resorts , specially LA HOYA where you can ski for less than $200( food included ), but there's no comparison with LL. :

The only " official " bus company is TAC( transportes automotores de cuyo) .Mendoza-LL is about 400km . of nice landscapes , wine country and deserts .
The bus usually goes to San Rafael ( 200km to LL)and you have to stay overnight waiting for the LL bus coming from Buenos Aires ( unless you are lucky and the bus got delayed or they include more services as they sometimes do in the winter .
I'll try to find out.
Sometimes it's possible to pay a van or a taxi between several stranded skiers or even hitch hike ( but pick a car with good tires and driver ).
There are some " profesional tourist vans "in Mendoza and San Rafael,but they are expensive .

[ May 15, 2003, 11:00 AM: Message edited by: extreme veteran ]
post #5 of 26
What is the travel like from Santiago?
Ground transfers, $$ and time involved?
(Would like to minimize $$ and travel time, maximize time at LL.)
Thx in advance, Ex Veteran! You've already put in more work than required! [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

[ May 14, 2003, 01:32 PM: Message edited by: teledave ]
post #6 of 26
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Quote:
Originally posted by teledave:
What is the travel like from Santiago?
Ground transfers, $$ and time involved?
Plane trip to Mendoza is simple and short , I will check prices , but if you buy it together with your USA-Chile ticket maybe you can get some good offer.
Ground transport : See what I answered in this thread ,I will post winter schedules and prices as soon as possible . :
post #7 of 26
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Quote:
Originally posted by teledave:

Thx in advance, Ex Veteran! You've already put in more work than required! [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
It's amazing the work some of us can put in for only an ethereal promise of a few beers!!

Without joking the real reason is that I love my mountains and I want to share them [img]graemlins/angel.gif[/img] ( sometimes I really admire people like me [img]tongue.gif[/img] )
post #8 of 26
Quote:
Originally posted by extreme veteran:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by teledave:
What is the travel like from Santiago?
Ground transfers, $$ and time involved?
Plane trip to Mendoza is simple and short , I will check prices , but if you buy it together with your USA-Chile ticket maybe you can get some good offer.
Ground transport : See what I answered in this thread ,I will post winter schedules and prices as soon as possible . :
</font>[/quote]I should have been more clear in my initial posting, I can get a FF ticket (freebie) into Santiago. Thus my request. What would be the best way to travel from Santiago to Las Lenas, and the most economical? How far apart are the two? It appears on the map that Santiago and Mendoza are relatively close together, but the map I've been looking at doesn't show roads or topo features.
post #9 of 26
On http://www.lanchile.com I found $70us r/t fare for Santiago to Mendoza. Anyone got any specific info on buses from Mendoza to LL? Exact departure times, if daily etc?
post #10 of 26
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Santiago is close to Mendoza in the map or if you are a condor : .
The travel by bus is interesting but takes a zillion tight turns and precipices to get to Mendoza .You cross the border at the base of the Aconcagua the highest mountain in America ( 7000 m about 21000 feet).
You pass in your way 2 ski resorts : Portillo in chile and Penitentes in Argentina , but you can't go out and in your bus easily as you are in a border area .Both are nice but small resorts compared with LL.
Price one way of the bus is 10 to 20 dollars.
In mendoza to go to LL the only regular bus service is T.A.C.to san rafael ( 200km) and then to LL ( another 200km), usually you have to stay overnight in san rafael( good food and of course wine , this is our napa valley!).Price is about $ 20 return ticket ($5 one way mendoza-san rafael and $5 one way san rafael-LL)
The other choices are expreso uspallata minibuses Mendoza -LL ( about $ 80 ) .
There are also private vans , a little more expensive , but if a group is travelling , you can arrange a package price.

I called the bus co.( TAC) and they told me they will most probably have winter service Mendoza-LL direct without the need of sleeping in san rafael. price will be about $ 12 one way

[ May 16, 2003, 01:45 PM: Message edited by: extreme veteran ]
post #11 of 26
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After a long fight with yahoo I finally could upload some photos of the apartments in LL :
http://www.geocities.com/extremeveteran/aparts

Also find trail and resort map and some photos in

http://club.telepolis.com/nieve/lenasm.htm
:
The view is from above, you can see the main resort hill called " Cerro los Fosiles ". As you can see you can ski 360 degrees from easy green to suicide triple black. :

You also have a couple of photos( the first is the MARTE chutes, and a view of the resort buildings , the tallest 4 similar buildings are the apartments.

[ May 16, 2003, 01:58 PM: Message edited by: extreme veteran ]
post #12 of 26
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New important information:
In LL they installed a new surface lift paralel to the Venus beginners chair , they also electrified the formerly combustion engine powered Neptune chair , making the total trip to the Marte lift 8 minutes faster , and eliminating most of the lines in the only congested zone in LL , the beginners area. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
Your correspondant in the south will post more info soon ( if I can find it , that is )
Still one month of suffering before skiing!!!! :
post #13 of 26
joint summit? http://forum.powdermag.com/cgi-bin/u...c;f=8;t=000257

Warning: there is no usefull information in the skate park
post #14 of 26
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[quote]Originally posted by hot_sauce:
[QB]joint summit? http://forum.powdermag.com/cgi-bin/u...c;f=8;t=000257

I've been reading that thread in Powder ( great photos !! ) : , and there are some things that may be useful for the bears to know:

Ther are many options that I never mentioned , because they are not reliable for somebody coming specially from the U.S. to ski.
I've slept everywhere in or near LL ( when I was younger ), but many are not experiences to recomend to a friend( and some not even to an enemy) [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img]

The lift tickets alone cost between $ 120 to 190 per week depending the month .

The cost per person in 5 to 7 persons per room is MUCH cheaper , but of course there's not much intimacy if you need it .
Prices can be as low as $260 a week with lifts included in the low season.
Another good , but difficult to arrange option , is to contact a private owner of an apartment and rent direct from him , but the owners usually rent the whole winter to the travel agencies.
The cheapest rooms are in the Club Andino ( I guess is about 9 dollars a night , no food no bus no lifts ), I've being there once ,but you will feel like a gold miner in the Yukon , and there's no way ( that I know )to book in advance , either you find a place or not, usually don't .It's also 500m from the road near Los Molles.

The Hualum and other Los Molles hotels, sometimes are a little cheaper , but , at least for me , the ski in /out advantage is too good to miss , for a few dollars a week. I will find out and post their prices anyway ( remember that I'm going there myself and I have to check everything first!!!! )

Sorry for the intromission ,Bears ,I don't claim to be the world's authority in Argentine skiing , but after 20 years of going to LL almost every year , believe me , I know the area pretty well , and would hate to find any of you up the proverbial creek ! [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

But if money is really tight , let me know and I can tell you all the alternatives . :

[ May 21, 2003, 11:42 AM: Message edited by: extreme veteran ]
post #15 of 26
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Tonight it started to snow again in LL .
I'm a little obsessed , am I? .
Three more weeks waiting !! :
post #16 of 26
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I discovered that there was an Exposki in Buenos Aires , went there and found a goldmine of info about All latin American Resorts , I will post info as soon as I sort out the brochures.
Meanwhile I checked the Los Molles Hotel rates and prices are a little higher than the LL apts in all weeks , but the school holiday. ( but they include Breakfast and dinner).
During the school holiday it costs $ 25 less per person per week.
I will have info about the other Hotel in Los Molles ( Hualum) next week.

CHILE INFO:

Portillo ( chile )rates:
Cheapest :$620 OR $420 in the inca dormy , but I think this one doesn't include food
More expensive:$2550 :
expensive , but the food is included and is great!

Valle nevado ( chile)
Cheapest :$600
more expensive$2642 :
Food included
post #17 of 26
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Ushuaia info
Cerro castor ski resort:
ski week with food ,land transportation and lodging : about $670.

Bariloche Catedral :
weekly lift pass price :from $94 to $163 , depending the month.
:
post #18 of 26
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Termas de chillan ( chile): ski week with food from $515 to $2235

El colorado ( chile): skiweek with food from $ 409 to $ 799

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[ May 27, 2003, 12:31 PM: Message edited by: extreme veteran ]
post #19 of 26
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Los molles ( 18 km from LL ) prices:
Hotel Los Molles ( lonely but OK):from $ 280 to $ 720
Hotel Hualum ( small,also lonely and simpler ): from $ 246 [img]smile.gif[/img] to $ 530

Prices depend on the persons per room and month , include food and sometimes transport to LL.prices may change in june as this is a " before opening offer".
If not included bus to LL and back costs about $4 per day.

For more details mail the same guys sugested before:
adventurefactory@yahoo.com.ar

[img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
post #20 of 26
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Penitentes ( argentina) just across the border from Portillo ( chile)
Lifts : from $103 to $ 156 a week depending the month
Lodging : From $ 5.50 a day : in the mountain club in rooms for 8
to $56 a day in a good hotel.

[ June 02, 2003, 11:48 AM: Message edited by: extreme veteran ]
post #21 of 26
Do you by chance have a good recommendation for a travel agent with knowledge of traveling to Chile? Especially to ski resorts. Las Lenas and Portillo are the two resorts I am choosing from, at least at this moment.
post #22 of 26
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I posted a lot of the info you need in this thread and in " Bears in the Andes Chapter 1 thread .

I don't know the agencies in chile , you can contact portillo direct ( is owned by an american ) .
Anyway Portillo is justa few miles across the border from Argentina in one of the main passes in the Andes between both countries.

Las Lenas is in Argentina , some 500km south of Portillo .
I always recomend the agency I use Passport : you can mail in english to them to
adventurefactory@yahoo.com.ar
,they charge the same prices to " gringos " and
" gauchos " there are also american agencies , but they made complete tours and charge higher prices .
Passport also have skiweeks in portillo , but I don't know if there are better options.

If you reject the american agencies you save at least $ 500 , but you will have to buy your own transportation , flying to Buenos Aires ( argentina ) or Santiago ( chile ) , it's usually cheaper going through Buenos Aires , then LL( 1200km) , then mendoza ( 400km), then Portillo( about 200km) with a stop in another ski resort in the way : Penitentes .

But is shorter from Santiago , you take from there the bus to portillo and save about 900km in bus travel . [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
post #23 of 26
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Next week they will have a cyberbar in LL, so I will be able to keep in contact wiyh the bears even when skiing ! :
post #24 of 26
Quote:
Originally posted by extreme veteran:
Termas de chillan ( chile): ski week with food from $515 to $2235

El colorado ( chile): skiweek with food from $ 409 to $ 799

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I have a friend who rents his house in El Colorado, sector Los Ciervos, about 150 meters to the main chairlift. It's about US$80 daily and is fully equipped for 5 persons.

May be much cheaper weekly.

His name is Antonio HasbĂșn and you can call him to:

56-2-2723770
56-9-8627240 (cell)
post #25 of 26
Has anyone found a great airfare recently to Santiago, Chile.
I hope to be flying down to Ski at Portillo in August.
The cheapest airfare I can find at the moment is about 850 dollars.

Thanks
post #26 of 26
Quote:
Originally posted by LU WHOO:
Has anyone found a great airfare recently to Santiago, Chile.
I hope to be flying down to Ski at Portillo in August.
The cheapest airfare I can find at the moment is about 850 dollars.

Thanks
If you are student, go to Student Flight Center and you can get a ticket to Santiago for about US650 (Miami)
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