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Blackcom to Whistler ski access?

post #1 of 50
Thread Starter 
We are contemplating booking a Whistler vacation this Winter and are looking a a ski-in/ski-out condo on the Blackcomb side, either The Aspens or Woodrun, next to the Wizard Express lift.

The reason for the in/out condo is that we like to put our boots on in the room and the skis right out front, we try to avoid much walking in boots, especially my wife.

My question is: how do we ski over to the Whistler mountain from the Blackcomb side and back?

....Ott
post #2 of 50
Ott, to ski over, you need to get onto the Village Run, and the best way to get to it is to ride the Wizard up and ski Main Line, then Green Line, then the Village Run.

That I'm aware of, there isn't an option for skiing from Whistler mountain over to Blackcomb.
My suggestion would be that at the end of the day on Whistler, ski down to the base then walk over to the Dubh Linn Gate for a beer before getting the bus back.
Of course, there is the option of getting the Excalibur Gondola up to the car park, then skiing down to Blackcomb base, but you will have to take your skis off in the gondola.

Hope this helps

S
post #3 of 50
Thread Starter 
Thanks, Fox, maybe we'll look into a condo in town where a bus stops to take us either to Whistler or Blackcomb base. In other areas we have had to only walk out the door to the street, board a bus and a few minutes later were right at the lifts.

The nice thing about a real sk-in/ski-out is that we can come back for lunch and a little rest before going out in the afternoon. [img]smile.gif[/img]

....Ott
post #4 of 50
Ott, Whistler/Blackcomb is HUGE. You need at least 2 days on each mountain to see most of it. These mountains have 3 climate zones. On a good day you'll spend all day on top. Depending on the weather, you might get stuck in the slop down on the bottom. What i'm saying is, take your lunch with you. And save enough leg to get back to the bottom at the end of the day. Sometimes the lines getting onto the gondolas are brutally long.

Blackcomb is uphill from whistler village. There is a service lift that runs til 10PM from the village, over condos, roads and runs and up to blackcomb. Shuttles are plentifull or there are ways to get there on skiis. You're gonna love that place.
post #5 of 50
Yes, you can ski down village run to get to Whistler, but you can also take the bus. Odds are there will be a bus stop nearby your condo that will end up back at the main transit area right at Whistler village. Here's a map of that route:
http://www.busonline.ca/regions/whi/...mb.pic&line=6&

Depending on snow conditions the Village Run can be a real slog.

[ November 16, 2003, 03:15 PM: Message edited by: SkiKing ]
post #6 of 50
You should only need to get the bus if the Gondy's are closed. Skiing between the two is easy - goto the village and walk between base Gondolas. [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #7 of 50
You guys are getting me stoked just by talking about the place! I'm going to be there with a group of 32 of us in March 6-13. I've already sold all the spots on the trip and am taking a waitlist.

Ott.... when do you think you'll be going out there?
post #8 of 50
Quote:
Originally posted by EasternSkiBum:
You guys are getting me stoked just by talking about the place! I'm going to be there with a group of 32 of us in March 6-13. I've already sold all the spots on the trip and am taking a waitlist.
Oh yeah, you're going to love it. It should be great with a big group like that.
post #9 of 50
Thread Starter 
Thanks, SkiKing for that link to the busses.

Oz, how long is the walk between gondolas in ski boots carrying the skis and poles?

EasternSkiBum, I don't know yet when to go, depends on the snow they get and the weather in general.

....Ott
post #10 of 50
The two gondolas are less than 100 yards apart. Easy, flat walk regardless of how much equipment you're carrying. The plaza there is paved and kept snow free. There's also a third lift that starts in the village: the Fitzsimmons Express. This can be a good option if there's a line for the Whistler gondola. I've never seen a line at all for Fitzsimmons. It may only run on weekends, though. When you get off Fitzsimmons take the Garbanzo chair and that will drop you off in a position to ski down to either the Green or Red chairs.

I've never stayed at ski-out lodging at Blackcomb, but my recommendation would be to use the bus if you want to ski Whistler. The walk is downhill, but it's a ways. If you want to ski, you will need to take one of the Blackcomb lifts up (probably the Wizard Express quad) and then ski down. You need to be at least as high as the gondola mid-station (which is in reality nowhere near the midpoint) to access the Village run. You could probably also download on the gondola from the midstation. If you look at a trail map you'll see what I mean. The bottom line is it's probably quicker to just take the bus in. It is free.
post #11 of 50
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Originally posted by Ott Gangl:
how long is the walk between gondolas in ski boots carrying the skis and poles?
Ott,
If your skis are as heavy as mine, or you are as weak as me, you'll find that you need to stop regularly on the walk.
So, get out of the Whistler Gondola, and walk upstairs to the GLC. After taking a break, and some refreshment there, pick up your skis and walk towards the Blackcomb Gondola. After about 20 paces, you'll need to set your skis down. Could I reccomend the ski rack outside the Longhorn. While you're getting your breath back, why not pop inside, and ask for Marcia ( ).
Ash youu come oot off the Looonghorrn, find youurrr shkiiis and carry them for about 30 staggers.
There's another nicccceee skiiiraack made of woooooood. drop youuur schkis therrrre and take a well deserved rest. There's nice seats in the Dubh Linnnnn Gaaaaate.
Why not hav a beeeeer or twwwoooo while ther.

Roll out of the Dubh and crawl into the Blackcomb gondola (about 10 paces).
Get someone to push you out when you get to the car park level, then slide on your ar$e down to your condo.
(Better bring some beers with you for this final bit, as it's a long way to go without a drink)



S
post #12 of 50
Thread Starter 
You are my kind of guy, Fox ....Ott
post #13 of 50
The Aspens and Woodrun are located about 200-300m up the run from the Wizard base. Unfortunately, I don't think this is QUITE enough elevation to traverse straight across the hill to the top of the Magic chair and on to the village.

Others have mentioned going up the 1800 vert the Wizard will take you so you can ski to the village. An alternative is to go up the Magic chair (probably a longer ride up timewise, but shorter down) which drops you at the top of Base 2 of the Blackcomb gondola.

Living in your ski boots is kind of a way of life at Whistler, and people clump around all over the place... you don't have to be in a hurry, you're on vacation! I have stayed at both the Aspens and the Woodrun (years ago) and they are worthy, though not the lap of luxury. As far as a condo goes, the location you've chosen could be described as quiet and intimate, but about as far as a condo could be in town from the centre of the village action. It is about a ten minute walk to the village, and a three minute walk to the shops etc. in the upper village.

Have a great time!
post #14 of 50
another thing you might want to look at is ski storage at the Whistler base, where the gondolas and the Fitzsimmons chair are- that way you can stash the skis overnight and leave day footwear if clumping around in boots to and from the lifts is not to your fancy.It does mean having to carry the boots though. Depending on ski conditions skiing down for lunch and going back up may be a big slog as it is a very long way top to bottom (either mountain) and the skiing on the lower parts of either mountain can be a bit gloppy
post #15 of 50
Thread Starter 
Thanks, you guys are making me reconsider the ski-in/ski-out scene, I am now thinking of a condo near a bus stop so we could still put our boots on in the room. We are really tired of putting boots on in parking lots or day lodges. Once we have them on we are good the rest of the day, never even unbuckle them for the four o'clock tea dance.

The more I hear from you the better decision I can make...everyone tells me going to Whistler all the way from Ohio might be worth it.

...Ott
post #16 of 50
Following Fox's plan it won't matter how far the walk back to the condo is! You won't be feeling any pain!

I've stayed at Aspens before, we had the view of the Wizard chair, very nice. Busy hot tub though.

To get to Whistler we skid down to the Magic chair, up to base two, then across to the village. Coming back is a bit of a hassle. You take the gondola up to base two, then ski back to Aspens.

There should be enough snow at the bottom in March to do this.

If you don't mind taking the bus, check out alluradirect.com for other accomodations farther from the village that would be cheaper. You could also get your own private hot tub.

If you stay anywhere within the 'resort' limit, there is a free shuttle bus to take you to the village. I've never used it, but I know others who have and have said its not bad.

get yourself the little rubber things for the bottom of your boots. They actually do make walking more comfortable. As has been said, walking around in your boots is just part of what you do at W/B.
post #17 of 50
There are two bases to Whistler, and one brings you to the village where Blackcomb also begins.

I lived there for a year so I always like to warn about the weather. It rains alot and the snow is heavy.

Check out the boot - my favorite bar

Bz
post #18 of 50
Quote:
Originally posted by colin:
another thing you might want to look at is ski storage at the Whistler base, where the gondolas and the Fitzsimmons chair are- that way you can stash the skis overnight and leave day footwear if clumping around in boots to and from the lifts is not to your fancy.It does mean having to carry the boots though. Depending on ski conditions skiing down for lunch and going back up may be a big slog as it is a very long way top to bottom (either mountain) and the skiing on the lower parts of either mountain can be a bit gloppy
NOOOOOOOOO!! Don't fall for the ski check. We were there on a cold, clear, powder day last year and had to wait over an hour for a buddy to get his skis out! :
post #19 of 50
Quote:
Originally posted by Ott Gangl:
Oz, how long is the walk between gondolas in ski boots carrying the skis and poles?
Really depends on snow cover. If going from Whistler to Blackcomb you can keep skiing right down to the steps to get into the Gondy line. The other way around, it's not too far. Like 40m or something? 2 mins? Sounds baout right. Not far at all. The moutains are RIGHT next to each other and the village goes back from where they meet in the centre. [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #20 of 50
Further to that, can i recommend not staying on mountain unless you REALLY need to? Staying at a nice place in the village not only gives you equal access to both mountains, but you can go out at night and get sloshed and not worry about buses/taxis home. Remember the gondi stops running around 4, so no good for Happy Hour or dinner or clubbing after. [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #21 of 50
Only thing about being right in the village is that due to the good nightlife, it can be a bit noisy at night. So long as you are out on the beers (which we normally are - at least after getting over the jetlag!!) this is not a problem
This year we'll be staying in the mountainside lodge which is super convenient for both the lifts, restaurants and bars, and isn't too noisy for those early jetlag recovery nights [img]smile.gif[/img]

Stuart
post #22 of 50
I don't think so. Just keep the windows shut. We did - not a problem. But unless you have kids or something, you wanna be out on the nightlife. It is first rate.
post #23 of 50
Thread Starter 
Great info,thanks, keep it coming.

thebuzard, are you saying that we might be skiing in the rain a lot? That would be a bummer. So far, I'm looking at the last week in March after the season here is over.

stuarth, is the mountainside lodge a mountainside lodge or is that the name of the lodge? :

Oz, honestly, not having been there, is it worth it or should I look into Fernie or Panorama or Kicking Horse?

....Ott
post #24 of 50
We stayed at The Woodrun last December (the week before Christmas). It was a very nice two-bedroom Condo that we split with my parents. It is a very quiet atmosphere with a great staff. There were numerous bear prints outside in the snow. I think you must decide what type of atmosphere you want when considering where to stay. We had a very short 5 minute walk to the bus stop every morning. Since it was mid-December, there was not much snow in the village....so we could not "ski in - ski out". After a fun filled day of skiing....we took the bus back and had a short five minute walk back up to the condo. And as someone mentioned before....we felt no pain. Of course that was because my quads were numb with pain already.

If you want a louder "party" atmosphere....I would stay in the Village. It does cost more....but you are right there at the Gondolas. We are going back this year and are staying at Creekside. Much cheaper....but also much further away. We do have our own Gondola there....and it goes half-way up Whistler where we would then need to switch to a chair. But for half the price of lodging...it's not bad.
post #25 of 50
Ott,
The Mountainside lodge is not really on the mountain side (though not far away - about 100 metres to the gondolas, behind the pan-pacific lodge) and is more a hotel/apartments than a lodge (in the traditional sense).
From UK tour operators it is very good value for money accomodation and in a good location for everything in the village. Only slight downer was when we arrived last year we were in a room at the front, by the small loop where the coaches drop off between 5 and 6 AM!! Fortunately despite (or because) they were busy they swapped us to a loft suite complete with private sauna and 2 bathrooms (for 2 of us!), no extra charge [img]smile.gif[/img]

Stuart

[ November 18, 2003, 07:53 AM: Message edited by: stuarth ]
post #26 of 50
Ott, every skier should go to Whistler at least once, and if the conditions are good, you'll want to return again and again. I'm told no place even comes close, for skiing or atmosphere. Truly a magical place, a total vacation. We go up there all the time, every season of the year. We go to other places in BC for a bit of variety, and because they're cheaper, but we always secretly wish we were at Whistler instead. If you are going in Jan, Feb, or March, skiing should be top to bottom. If by some chance there is some rain in the village then, it'll be dumping at the top of the first tier of lifts.

The fact that Europeans come here repeatedly when they have the Alps in their back yard is a good enough testimony for me.
post #27 of 50
in my experience- 3 trips- in March/April rain in the village is by no means abnormal, due to the low base elevation. The freezing level at that time seems to be well above the base level, but usually below mid mountain so rain down below means snow on high.But one day last year the freezing level cleared the top of the mountain and it rained continuously even at the very top of Blackcomb which was no fun, but you take that day off and work on the law of averages- for me that is one day out of say 35 so that isnt anything to cry about. If you dont go expecting blue skies and sunny days- and get them which you can do- then that is a bonus.The one main negative point I would say about Whistler is the weather at the base- but only if others were asking me for a recommendation. I would feel it necessary to say that, even tho it doesnt particularly bother me. Over here, clear blue skies and long leisurely Alpine lunches are a fundamental component of some peoples ski vacation. I would always point out that Whistler is not best suited to either, aside from the weather the food (on mountain) can be ok, in a cafeteria sort of way,but nobody is going to rave about it, certainly no Italians/French/Swiss/Austrians. The restaurants in Whistler village are an entirely different kettle of fish. Never had less than a good meal and on a number of occasions a lot better than that.
post #28 of 50
Quote:
Originally posted by Ott Gangl:

Oz, honestly, not having been there, is it worth it or should I look into Fernie or Panorama or Kicking Horse?

....Ott
Having skiied many resorts in Western Canada over several trips and months - the answer is an extremely firm Y E S!! WB, although fairly commericalized is one of the most mind blowing resorts where I've ever strapped planks on. The sheer size of the resort and the mind blowing variety of terrain - combined with extremely logical lift layout choices and excellent facilities made for one of the best skiing experiences of my life....twice! Will definately be heading back there for an entire season ASAP. [img]smile.gif[/img] But do not beleive you need to sell your left arm and possibly several internal organs to pay for it. It is not Vail. If you shop around and are sensible, costs can be kept down.
post #29 of 50
Ott, I went there last year and was very impressed! Have been to Vail, all the Summit County resorts, Jackson, Targhee and Snowbird Alta over the last 3-4 years, and Whistler has the biggest WOW factor of anyplace I've been.

We stayed in a 3 bedroom condo about 0.5 miles from Blackcomb Village. The shuttles are very convenient. For us it was 60 ft out the front door of our condo. We could throw some BC brewed Kankakee beer out the deck into the hot tub. We booked it through Alluradirect.com. Alluradirect's website is possibly the most helpful and informative site I've used to book lodging. THere are good maps that show the shuttle lines and lift locations in relation to the condos.

How close are the gondolas? Well Barry Bonds wouldn't need to use a cut off man to throw a baseball between the two. As far as waits to get on the gondolas, we didn't have any. We usually got to the village between 8:15 and 9:00 and never had to wait more than 5 minutes to get on either of them. The shuttle rides are about ten minutes from most condos to Whistler Village. Our only complaint was having to wait 15 mins for the return shuttle after skiing all day. If you look at the map any cul de sac ending is a shuttle stop and there are usually 2 stops between intersections, so unless your unit is at the far end of a development walks are not that far. Better yet, with the base at 2200 ft elevation, you won't get winded walking around. Even the 100 yard walk at the top of Blackomb to get back to the glacier was less strenuous than 2 flights of stairs in Breckenridge.
post #30 of 50
Thread Starter 
Mike, I was looking at the Alluradirect web site, but so far just a cursory look. Where did you stay?

I'm grateful for your encouragment, everybody. Just one more thing (isn't there always?): Being retired, we can go anytime, which week would you recommend?

...Ott
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