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East ski trip choices.....

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
which would you pick?

http://www.gosnow.com/skitrips.htm

I have never been to any of these mountains. I'm looking for the best value (skiing and chilling). Great brewpubs or local beers are a plus if not necessity. Killington is cheapest but I am leery about reported high skier traffic and the "k mart" reputation. Whiteface might/will be iceface in Jan., but then there's Lake Placid. Are there good hangouts near Sugarbush? I think the Bush would offer best chance for natural snow and be less crowded.

Thanks for your thoughts!
post #2 of 21
Stowe.

I've always liked the terrain there better than the other mountains. The top to bottom lay out of the mountain is nice - by this I mean you are not taking multiple lifts to get to your destination.

There is also easy access to Mad River, Smuggler's, and the 'Bush for a diversion.

The town in Stowe is nice, but not the night life of a Killington. I highly recommend the Shed for some nice beer though.
post #3 of 21
I would stay out of lake placid that weekend! Its the annual ISI figure skating event, so the town will be jam packed with anywhere from 200-300 obnoxious little Sara Hughes wannabees and their families(I'm allowed to say that, my fiance' is a coach and her sister is a skater ) Love whiteface, but I think that some of its charm comes from being able to hang out in the village and be a tourist too. That being said, I'm going to the mountain that weekend because I'm already up there to watch some of the competition.
There's not really THAT big a problem with an event like that, you just need to realize that there are going to be a lot of people in town and you're just not going to be able to walk into a resteraunt at 6 PM and get a table, and there will be NO parking spaces in town because once the little princesses are done at the ice rink they'll want to go shopping!
post #4 of 21
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the info.

I have read some good reviews of Stowe in here mainly related to terrain. I kinda put it at the bottom of my list because they seem to cater to a more elite clientele. But if they have some laid back pubs with craft brews and the skiing's good, that's all I need.

That about puts the last nail in the Whiteface coffin. Maybe another time.
post #5 of 21
Best combo of snow, terrain and places to eat/drink in VT is Stowe. Lots of snow and tree skiing at Jay, only an hour north of Stowe, but after ski options there are nearly non-existent. Stay in Stowe and drive to Jay.
JW
post #6 of 21
Stowe. Fun people. Great mountain. Great night life. Go!
post #7 of 21
Quote:
Originally posted by laseranimal:
I would stay out of lake placid that weekend! Its the annual ISI figure skating event, so the town will be jam packed with anywhere from 200-300 obnoxious little Sara Hughes wannabees and their families(I'm allowed to say that, my fiance' is a coach and her sister is a skater ) Love whiteface, but I think that some of its charm comes from being able to hang out in the village and be a tourist too. That being said, I'm going to the mountain that weekend because I'm already up there to watch some of the competition.
There's not really THAT big a problem with an event like that, you just need to realize that there are going to be a lot of people in town and you're just not going to be able to walk into a resteraunt at 6 PM and get a table, and there will be NO parking spaces in town because once the little princesses are done at the ice rink they'll want to go shopping!
post #8 of 21
let me speak on this with good local knowledge. it is true that we are inundated that weekend with skaters. but the real deal is that few skiers can book rooms (since they wait too long to commit) and that makes the whiteface experience uncrowded. same goes for hockey weekends. i have witnessed this myself. LP is packed with skaters (or hockey players). makes me wish we had another 500 hotel rooms in LP to accommodate everyone. so the key is to book early and then hook up with the locals.
post #9 of 21
I agree completely about the mountain being less crowded on skating weekends, the only problem as you said is a lack of rooms. The other issue is that the town does get more crowded, which doesn't bother me as most of my time is spent running through the rinks trying to get everyone where they need to be or skiing. Atomic Mark seemed to be looking for a place to hang out as well as ski, which lake placid does offer on a normal weekend, but when there's a skating/hockey event the resteraunts/bars become more crowded(however, you probably will be keeping later hours then many of the skaters so this might not be as big a problem). So what it basicly boils down to is this: If you want to go skiing on that weekend, by all means GO TO WHITEFACE!!! there will be fewer people there, but if you want to do the tourist thing while skiing I would say bag it and come another weekend, unless you're willing to make some concessions in when you plan on eating/shopping(if that's your thing).

[ October 30, 2002, 07:32 AM: Message edited by: laseranimal ]
post #10 of 21
I've never skied at Whiteface, but have skied at Stowe, Sugarbush and Killington. It is easy to ski at both Sugarbush and Stowe the same weekend. Stowe and Sugarbush are quite different ski experiences, but both great places to ski. Stowe is a bigger town with more to do, but Sugarbush is more laid back on weekends and slope side condos are available. Mad River Glen is very close to Sugarbush for another option. Bolton Valley, Sugarbush, MRG, Stowe, Smugglers Notch, Jay Peak and Burke are close enough for a day trip from a hotel in the region.

Killington midweek is a little different, but on the weekend is a more of an industrial ski process than fun for me.
post #11 of 21
Another vote for Stowe. Great terrain, easy to get to the skiing (no taking a lift to get to the lift to get you to...you get the idea). The town is great with plenty of great options for food and drink. The Shed is a microbrewery, as well as a good restaurant and bar, but not being a beer drinker I can't say how good their brews are.
post #12 of 21
Marble Mountain - Conerbrook, Newfoundland

$1.00 USD = $1.60 CND
post #13 of 21
My two cents is SUGARBUSH. If $$$ are a factor which they always are then stay in Waitsfield and make a side trip to Stowe. The terrain is very good there. I think you could ski two weeks at Sugarbush and not get bored. The new management has improved lifts and increase the skiable area within the two mountains. You can now ski in the slide brook area with a guide for some sick tree's or dig trenches on Spring Fling or Organgrinder. The Den restaurant or the Mad Mountain tavern are fun spots for food, drink and other forms of recreation. Just make sure if you go to Stowe you stop by the Shed and drink a few dozen pints of Mountain Ale for me... I miss that stuff.

Have fun
post #14 of 21
I vote for Stowe also. Runs for all levals off of the Quad; double diamond to green circle. All are long and drop 2000 vertical off of most chairs. Some marked glades and, they say, more if you explore. Get to Nosedive early for best groomed, icy later. Staighten the S bends for more challenge but scope it before you drop in. The 'Hay Chute' will bring you atop National and Liftline and mid-Goat. If National is too gnarly, Liftline is often groomed. It's right there under your feet going up the Quad. I love Stowe, great terrain that is easy to get to.

Stowe is a real town with some good taverns serving up Long Trail Ale and other assorted local microbrews, almost all from a microbrewery down in Bridgewater(near Killington). It use to be in an old mill that was converted to an indoor mall for bouquet shops. These brews are served all over VT. As for the party scene, maybe the Shed, I don't know. My idea of a party is to park the kids and spend time with my honey.

Jay may have more snow and, glades are all marked. There is little there when the lifts close. That's fine with me. Tram Ale can be had, also from Bridgewater.

Dress warm. There is a reason things are cheaper at the times listed.

Have fun.
post #15 of 21
Thread Starter 
Thanks all. Things are pointing toward Stowe. Anybody ever stay at The Commodores Inn?
post #16 of 21
I stayed at the Commodores a couple of years ago.Decent clean rooms.I believe breakfast was included.I stayed at the Northern Lights last year.The rooms were clean but everthing was old and not in the best condition.Breakfast was included-great food and plenty of it.They have a hot tub and an indoor pool.It wasn't expensive but the place needs up dating a bit.And its closer to the mountain.The Commodores is a bit farther away,but it might be a better choice.
post #17 of 21
Are you driving or flying?
If you are driving, may I suggest Sugarloaf in Maine; the skiing is absolutely awesome(2800' vertical) and the snow is always in great shape. Very friendly people. Some night spots.
Next day drive to Mont Saint Anne, Quebec(3 hours); here you have another great ski hill(2050' vertical) with over 50 runs, very good steep runs, excellent grooming, big bumps, no lift lines, night skiing(whole mountain) friendly people and no problem with the language as most people speak english. It is also very reasonable for U.S. citizens as your dollar is worth $1.55 to ours. This means you can ski at St. Anne for about $33/day&night. After skiing go to Quebec City(30 min.). Great restaurants, etc. with European flavour and again with the exchange, very cheap.
Next day, go to Le Massif, 30 minutes from Saint Anne. Smaller resort than Saint Anne but higher(2565') and even steeper yet and twice the amount of snow. Beautiful scenery as it overlooks the mighty St. Lawrence river. You may want to hit Quebec City again on your way home or many other attractions in the area.
While at St. Anne & Le Massif you can stay at St. Anne de Beaupre(3 minute drive from St. Anne resort) for about $35 U.S. or a kitchenette unit for under $50 U.S.
You could even hit Stowe on your way there or on the way home if you make it a 4 day weekend.

Hope this helps and have fun. These are 3 fantastic resorts!
post #18 of 21
Thread Starter 
Thanks headskiman. Is the commodores inn close enough and the road safe enough to walk or do you have to shuttle? They say it is "just down the road" from the village.

Thanks for all the info on Quebec, Daryl. I want to make a trip there too in the future. I vacationed in Ontario several times as a kid back in the 80's (Calabogie) and a couple times up in Quebec on fly-in fishing trips. Never made it down to Toronto. How do you like Blue Mountain? It reminds me a lot of Camelback down my way in the Poconos.

My choices this time are based on group trips offered by an area ski shop. They are....

Killington, VT December 6-8,2002
Lake Placid (Whiteface), NY January 10-12,2003
Stowe, VT January 31 - February 2,2003
Sugarbush, VT February 21-23,2003
Killington, VT March 14-16,2003

They average $300 pp based on 2 people and include bus trans., lodging, a meal or two, and lift tix. My buddy and I felt it would be more fun with a group than driving and going it alone.
post #19 of 21
I ski a lot at Blue Mountain since it is a reasonable drive for me. It is very reasonable, moneywise, for you U.S. skiers but it can be icy at times and quite crowed on weekends since it is so close to Toronto. Don't waste your time and money here; go to Quebec or to Western Canada. Much better skiing and a better value.

Regards.
post #20 of 21
the commodore is not on the acces road to but close to it.But it is at least a 10+ minute ride by auto to the slopes.Not walkable.
post #21 of 21
Thread Starter 
No, I just figured you probably skied there. If I ever visit Toronto in the winter, I might check it out. But I'm a baseball fan, so I'd be more apt to catch the Yankees and Jays at the Skydome in the summer.
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