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Demo Bindings???

post #1 of 7
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I'm looking at possibly purchasing a pair of demo ski's from last year, and I was wondering if anyone knows how a demo binding compares to a regular binding of the same model. Is there any kind of performance difference? Thanks for any insight.
post #2 of 7
There is a lot of stuff out there, so it sort of depends on the model & manufacturer. Generally, they are identical bindings with an adjustable track underneath or in place of standard mounting brackets. The track might be made by the binding manufacturer, or it might be a third-party add-on.

As far as performance goes, the track usually adds height to the system, so a demo binding skis not unlike a standard binding with a riser plate. That can be a good thing since you'd usually pay extra for a riser plate, or a neutral thing in that a riser is not necessary on a wide-ish ski--but it won't hurt much. Some people might worry about the demo track affecting the stiffness and flexing of the ski.

A more important performance aspect is that demo bindings are often beat to s***. In any case, but especially if you're a non-techie and/or you are buying these from some questionable venue like eBay, plan on spending a few more bucks to have the bindings inspected, set, and release-checked by a shop that is certified by the manufacturer of the bindings you get.

Be prepared for the shop to tell you they won't work on them. They probably won't say that, especially if the bindings are only a few years old, but it might happen. If the bindings are no longer indemnified by the manufacturer, working on them would be a legal/financial risk for the shop that they cannot afford to take; it doesn't mean they just want to sell you new bindings.

You would like both the toe and the heelpiece to be adjustable, especially if you have very small or very large feet. "Demo" bindings usually have this, "rental" bindings often don't (instead they may have a fixed toe, adjustable heel). Few people selling stuff on eBay admit to selling "rental" equipment, but there is lots of it for sale there... Caveat emptor.

Ideally, you would buy demos from a shop you know and trust, who will guarantee the bindings, who can tell you how many days they've been skied, and who can set them and test them for you. Personally, I like demo bindings because it makes it easy to share.
post #3 of 7
Daevious, are the bindings themselves physically different? I see a lot of nearly new skis with demo tracks at the shows & swaps and was wondering if one could simply remove the system and remount the bindings conventionally... ever hear of this working out?

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Steve, I think it depends on the manufacturer and the track system. Sometimes the track is a replacement for the stock mounting bracket, sometimes you just attach the whole binding to the track, some are a whole different animal, so you might need to special-order a bracket (or scrounge a used one) to take the demo track out and reuse the binding.

Why would you want to do that? Weight? Demo bindings are convenient as hell--and about that expensive, too. I've bought demo skis and practically thrown away the skis to get my hands on the bindings and demo tracks.
post #5 of 7
This is a purely subjective response, so bear that in mind.

I demo skis all year. I start at the earliest demo days at ski areas, eventually I go to the on snow trade show where I get to try many, many skis, and then after that I continue to demo. That's what I do.

Last year, I enjoyed the Rossignol Bandit XX so much that I demoed that model many times. Eventually, I bought myself a pair, and I mounted Rossignol Freeride T-Plate bindings on them. Maybe its just my imagination - but I don't think so . . . As much as I loved the XX's I demoed with demo bindings, I love my own even more. The fore/aft balance on those things is the best, THE BEST, I've ever experienced. Is this the "placebo" type of effect - they're MY OWN, and the bindings are MY OWN, so I like them better? Maybe . . . but I don't think so.

Demo bindings have a lot going for them, and sometimes, they're the best binding for YOU. Other times, though, they're not. I have no idea how to predict which it will be.
post #6 of 7
Sona, you aren't thining about putting demo bindings on "NEW" skis ? If so, DON'T !

For a pair of rock skis that will be heavier than they need to be, Ok, otherwise forget about it!
post #7 of 7
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the advice everyone. The extra weight, that's something I hadn't thought about Wink, but since all that weight is concentrated right around your foot it shouldn't affect the swing weight too much though. I do wan't the skis to be light and super quick, they're bump skis. I am thinking about are the Rossi Powair Moguls with Salamon S810 Ti demos I think. I also think both the toe and heelpiece can be moved on these bindings. I also believe they're only a year old so they shouldn't be beat to s&*@ yet. Unfortunately the DIN is only 10 and I'll probably set them on at least 9. The ability to share is nice. My brother is working at a hotel in Brekenridge and the skis are at a shop in Summit County, while I'm stuck here in Pasadena waiting for christmas break. So I figure if I decide to get them I could have him pick them up for me, save on shipping, and let him break them in for me if I feel generous. The ability to move the bindings foreward and backward is actually kind of cool too, maybe the perfect centering position for my body and style of skiing is a centimeter foreward or backwards of the standard and I could experiment without having all kinds of holes drilled.
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