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Upper East Wall, A-Basin vs. (Aspen) Highlands Bowl

post #1 of 5
Thread Starter 
Wondering which is tougher (more extreme), from those of you who've skied (or at least seen) both.
(By the way, having skied Lower East Wall, I'd rate it closer to double-blue than black, especially the farther away from the "gate" you go.)

Arapahoe Basin

Aspen Highlands

edit: Is Highlands really as steep, overall, as the trailmap makes it look?

[ September 26, 2002, 08:22 AM: Message edited by: ryan ]
post #2 of 5
I've skied the Highland Bowl, but never up on the East Wall due to weather. Highland Bowl is steep, very steep, however, where I was, if you went down, you wern't in danger of hitting anything. To me a true "double diamond" is something dangerious, no fall, narrow, rocks, trees, cliffs, exposure, etc. Everything else is just a single black no matter what the pitch. Something that brings in more of a sense danger than just steepness. From what I've seen, East Wall gets my vote even thought I have not skied it.

Side note, if a black diamond is an expert run, what is a double black? A "really good experts run?"

I like this topic.
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Maybe "double-black" gets back to what you said earlier. A black run might be an expert's, in a technical sense; you'll need some skills to get down it but will most likely come out okay if you fall. On the other hand, if you fall on a double-black, there may be a considerable price to pay.
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And let's not forget the "triple blacks" at Smuggler's Notch, VT and Mont Orford, Quebec (actually, I just checked and Orford has downgraded theirs to double black).

www.smuggs.com/winter/bigmap.html
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This is a good topic. Possibly the wrong forum?? However, here is my question....Isn't the ratings of a trail relative to that mountain and that mountain only?? In other words, can't the easiest mountain in flatland USA have a black diamond trail?? It simply notes that it is the most difficult terrain at that mountain. I have heard pros say there is no double black terrain in the east. I have issues with this.
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