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Last year I saw an ap that has sensors you place in your boots and measured the pressure you put forward im guessing. Has anyone heard of this and whatvare your thoughts? I struggle keeping enough weight forward at times, I'm aware of it, but still struggle at times. Thanks.
post #2 of 10

What we really want is our body center of mass (CoM) forward over your skis' sweet spots (somewhere a bit forward of the toe bindings).  There's a couple of effective ways to do that...and several less effective ways.

 

Stay up on the balls of your feet all the time.  That's effective.

 

Both your body and your skis are moving down the hill, so in relative terms, pulling the feet back under the CoM works.  It works very well.  You're using the strong hamstring muscles to do that.  Don't try to "get forward."  Do pull your feet back under your body.  Exactly the same effect, but easier to accomplish.

 

Keep your feet side-by-side.  Do not push the inside foot forward.  All the time in every turn strongly pull the inside foot back alongside the outside foot.  This pull-back movement impels the body forward over the sweet spots.  It's like turning on power steering.  Try it before you poo-poo it.

 

People talk about keeping your hands forward.  Yes, but...I've seen skiers stick their hands forward while their bodies are still behind their heels.  Do keep your hands in the body's natural balancing position, a bit up & a bit out.  Hand position can't help a lot, but it can hurt a lot if the hands are held back or too close in.

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Originally Posted by SoftSnowGuy View Post
 

What we really want is our body center of mass (CoM) forward over your skis' sweet spots (somewhere a bit forward of the toe bindings).  There's a couple of effective ways to do that...and several less effective ways.

 

 

What do you mean with forward of the toe binding? The binding can be quite long. 

post #4 of 10
App might tell you, but you still won't feel it.

360 drills and variations there of will teach this to you in terms of balance, edge feel and control.

The only thing an app like this can tell you is an ideal balance in an ideal condition, in the real life of skiing this is dynamic and only "FEEL" can provide this.
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Largely what others said - although I don't totally agree with SoftShow Guy's central point about where a ski's sweet spot is.

 

First: I have three pairs of skis that I teach on (teaching about 70 days a year, 10 - 15 days of clinics with PSIA Demo Team, 100+ total). Each ski needs to be pressure in a slightly different way. None of the skis that I am on are pressured that far forward. That being said, your COM should move to the apex of your next turn. Your tibia intersects with your foot forward of your heel, aft of your arch. That is the sweet spot. Should me a skier who skis radically forward and I'll show you a skier who's ski tails wash out in a turn (I used to be in that camp).

 

There are a ton of drills to find center. As one poster said 360 drills will get you there. However there is a distinctive progression to get there. I'd look into a lesson. Do this:

- Go on a weekday afternoon to a big mountain that attracts outstanding instructor talent.

- Book an afternoon group lesson consistent with your ability,.

- Tell your instructor that you want the toolkit to get and keep your weight centered.

- Drill, drill, drill. Forget about advanced terrain. Drill on flat, green terrain. Occasionally, when you are feeling dialed, go to advanced terrain. Ski. If you feel the old movement patterns creep in go back to easy terrain for a few more months. Getting better is work. Commit to it.

 

Finally, I recently had a discussion with someone (who is not an instructor by any stretch) about remote technology's roll in ski instruction. Frankly, I don't see a place unless it is with an exceptional athlete that an instructor has a relationship with (keeping in mind that I was ownership of a company developing AI for apps - and YAHOO acquired the company. There are simply way too many nuances and emotions involved in skiing for many aspects of technology to be of utility as that conversation is taking place at the moment.

 

Enjoy!

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post #7 of 10
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Thank you guys. Very good info. I'm afraid my season is probably done for this year. I will try to do some reading here throughout the summer and get a lesson next year. Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by bigreen505 View Post

This?
https://worldcupsupply.com/product/forward-ski-system/
No that not system I saw. I wish I could remember the name. It was something simple like ski coach. It was an iPhone based ap, and only $80.
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Originally Posted by rockyrunner99 View Post

Last year I saw an ap that has sensors you place in your boots and measured the pressure you put forward im guessing. Has anyone heard of this and whatvare your thoughts? I struggle keeping enough weight forward at times, I'm aware of it, but still struggle at times. Thanks.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/carv-the-world-s-smartest-ski-wearable-sports#/

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YES! that would be the one! I thought it was cheaper. Anyway, not worth it? Just get some lessons?
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