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The MAX Pass 2017-18 for 44 areas: Whiteface, Gore, Killington, Tremblant, Big Sky, Steamboat, Solitude, Brighton, Crested Butte and more

post #1 of 22
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It's official, the 2017-18 MAX Pass will include the ORDA mountains for a total of 44 places all over North America.  Whiteface, Gore, Belleayre, Windham, Lutsen and Granite Peak were added.  Stevens Pass is no longer included, but Crystal is still in.

 

https://www.themaxpass.com

 

 

* New for 2017-18

 

ALASKA: Alyeska
 

WEST
Washington: Crystal Mountain, The Summit at Snoqualmie
Oregon: Mt. Bachelor
California: Boreal, Mountain High
Nevada: Lee Canyon 

ROCKY MOUNTAINS
Montana: Big Sky
Utah: Brighton, Solitude
Colorado: Copper, Steamboat, Winter Park, Crested Butte, Eldora

MIDWEST
Michigan: Boyne Highlands, Boyne Mountain
Minn.: Buck Hill, *Lutsen
Wisc.: *Granite Peak

EAST
Maine: Sunday River, Sugarloaf
Vermont: Killington, Pico Mountain, Stratton, Okemo
New Hampshire: Loon Mountain, Mt. Sunapee
Massachusetts: Wachusett
* New York: Whiteface, Gore, Belleayre, Windham
New Jersey: Mountain Creek
West Virginia: Snowshoe

CANADA 
British Columbia: Cypress Mountain
Alberta: Kicking Horse, Nakiska, Kimberly, Fernie
Ontario: Blue Mountain
Quebec: Mont Tremblant, Mont Ste Anne, Stoneham

 

If you are curious about last year's discussion:

http://www.epicski.com/t/146695/the-max-pass-2016-17-for-39-areas-killington-tremblant-big-sky-steamboat-solitude-brighton-alyeska-crested-butte-and-more

 

EDIT APR 2017: added missed places

post #2 of 22

We are probably going to go the MAX Pass route this coming year. We are probably right in the MAX Pass target audience.

 

We generally do not ski enough to make a season pass worth the cost. But with mostly day trips in VT/NH and a trip out West being planned for next year what we can get from the MAX Pass is a complete bargain!

 

I am very curious to see who else they are trying to add to the pass with their "Stay tuned..." teaser from Facebook. Not many options left standing (Deer Valley, Grand Targhee, Wolf Creek, Whitefish,....?)

post #3 of 22
Thread Starter 

Given what happened last year, my guess is that if any other places are added to the MAX Pass, we won't find out about them until the summer, or even in the fall.

 

Grand Targhee would be a nice addition.  Especially for people with time to fly into SLC to start a ski safari that includes driving to Big Sky.  Or for families who want a ski vacation during the Christmas holidays who don't care about non-ski activities and live in the northeast.

post #4 of 22

I'm still waiting for the email. Last year I was able to get $20 off my pass with the ambassador program. Hopefully, they have that again this year.

post #5 of 22

I did that last year. Skied Brighton and Big Sky in the same trip. Adding Grand Targhee would make a nice addition. I got some NY state resorts so I'm pretty happy but if I'm being greedy I would love a big resort in Lake Tahoe added. Not sure that will happen though, they are already on other passes.

 

Actually that would be a good topic but maybe in a different thread. MAX PASS trips out west for Eastern skiers.

I did Steamboat, Winter Park 1 trip and Big Sky, Brighton on another.

 

I'm thinking Big Sky, Brighton and Solitude in 2018.

post #6 of 22
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Originally Posted by CentralVT08 View Post
 

We are probably going to go the MAX Pass route this coming year. We are probably right in the MAX Pass target audience.

 

We generally do not ski enough to make a season pass worth the cost. But with mostly day trips in VT/NH and a trip out West being planned for next year what we can get from the MAX Pass is a complete bargain!

 

I am very curious to see who else they are trying to add to the pass with their "Stay tuned..." teaser from Facebook. Not many options left standing (Deer Valley, Grand Targhee, Wolf Creek, Whitefish,....?)

 

Agreed, I will likely get it but would love for a couple more additions.

 

In the East, one of the Northern Vermont resorts like Jay, Burke, Smuggs or MRG would be great. Saddleback or Canon too would be nice.

 

For Utah, the pass makes a lot of sense for people visiting, but less sense for people living in the state. Getting another mountain - Deer Valley, Powder Mountain, or Sundance, would go a long way towards making this a more attractive option. 

post #7 of 22
Thread Starter 

For those who like maps.  The regions for the MAX Pass are called West, Mountain, Midwest, and East.

 

 

 

 

post #8 of 22

Who might get added to the MAX Pass by this Fall, in order to fulfill the "Stay Tuned" tease for a big mountain addition from Facebook?

 

That question kept bugging me most of the day yesterday, so I tried to do a little research and narrow down a possible list.

 

If you take a look at the resorts in the West and Mountain maps above one thing stands out, basically every western resort is tied to Powdr, Intrawest, Boyne, Triple Peaks, or RCR.

 

The setup seems organized to draw local skiers from coastal metropolitan areas to a specific list of destination resorts. Resorts have been added in the last couple of years based on providing a larger local coastal clientele, and not necessarily destination resort options (Solitude I think was a necessary addition to buttress Brighton as on out-of-state destination option vs the new Park City or Alta-Snowbird)

 

What are the exceptions to this formula? This is where I think the list of possible additions can be found.

 

Solitude is owned by Deer Valley. Alyeska is independent, but the RMSP+ provides multiple days in AK. Mountain High seems to be independent (?) and in the Powder Alliance, but really seems be the local link to the Southern California market.

 

So who does that leave?

 

Deer Valley: Solitude is already on the list, but personally I doubt Deer Valley is going to do anything to tarnish the vibe of luxury exclusivity they foster.

 

Other resorts connected to Powdr, Intrawest, Boyne, or RCR passes. This could mean Mt Hood Meadows, with a link to the WP Route 40 Pass, and the international destinations already linked to the RMSP+.

 

Other options would draw skiers away from the destination resorts of the major operators--which is a big factor I assume in the economics of the MAX Pass.

 

Conclusion: I do not expect any truly significant North American additions, based on how the MAX Pass is economically and corporately organized, but they may add an international element in order to make up that difference with the Epic Pass and MCP.

post #9 of 22

If I had the scratch, I'd pick one of these up along with my MCP... but the gf would probably kill me. If only the MCP had another east coast mountain, I wouldn't even be tempted by the Max Pass. As it is, I'll probably take a few road trips to Sugarbush in between flights out west.

post #10 of 22

Unclaimed by any multi-mountain passes yet:

 

US:

Homewood - CA

June Mountain - CA

Sugar Bowl - CA

Monarch - CO

Powderhorn - CO

Purgatory - CO

Silverton - CO

Wolf Creek - CO

Brian Head - UT

Sundance - UT

Deer Valley - UT

PowMow - UT

Nordic Valley - UT

Grand Targhee - WY

 

Canada:

Big White 

Panorama

Sun Peaks

 

(Btw, speaking of Canada, the existing MAX Pass already has a few awesome resorts that are somewhat overlooked:  e.g., Fernie, Kicking Horse. Both are not difficult to travel to and can be done in a single road trip from Calgary. )

 

Quote:

Originally Posted by CentralVT08 View Post
 

Who might get added to the MAX Pass by this Fall, in order to fulfill the "Stay Tuned" tease for a big mountain addition from Facebook?

 

That question kept bugging me most of the day yesterday, so I tried to do a little research and narrow down a possible list.

 

If you take a look at the resorts in the West and Mountain maps above one thing stands out, basically every western resort is tied to Powdr, Intrawest, Boyne, Triple Peaks, or RCR.

 

The setup seems organized to draw local skiers from coastal metropolitan areas to a specific list of destination resorts. Resorts have been added in the last couple of years based on providing a larger local coastal clientele, and not necessarily destination resort options (Solitude I think was a necessary addition to buttress Brighton as on out-of-state destination option vs the new Park City or Alta-Snowbird)

 

What are the exceptions to this formula? This is where I think the list of possible additions can be found.

 

Solitude is owned by Deer Valley. Alyeska is independent, but the RMSP+ provides multiple days in AK. Mountain High seems to be independent (?) and in the Powder Alliance, but really seems be the local link to the Southern California market.

 

So who does that leave?

 

Deer Valley: Solitude is already on the list, but personally I doubt Deer Valley is going to do anything to tarnish the vibe of luxury exclusivity they foster.

 

Other resorts connected to Powdr, Intrawest, Boyne, or RCR passes. This could mean Mt Hood Meadows, with a link to the WP Route 40 Pass, and the international destinations already linked to the RMSP+.

 

Other options would draw skiers away from the destination resorts of the major operators--which is a big factor I assume in the economics of the MAX Pass.

 

Conclusion: I do not expect any truly significant North American additions, based on how the MAX Pass is economically and corporately organized, but they may add an international element in order to make up that difference with the Epic Pass and MCP.

post #11 of 22

Purgatory IS on a multi mountain pass in the 4 corners region.

 

https://www.thepowerpass.com/

 

I'm seriously considering the New Mexico Pass Plus instead of the M.A.X. Pass Add On in addition to my RMSP+ next year.  I'm in CO so many of those mountains make great 3 day weekend trips plus I love the feel of the smaller "old-school" mountains.

post #12 of 22
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Originally Posted by yixiixiy View Post

Unclaimed by any multi-mountain passes yet:

 

US:

Homewood - CA

June Mountain - CA

Sugar Bowl - CA

Monarch - CO

Powderhorn - CO

Purgatory - CO

Silverton - CO

Wolf Creek - CO

Brian Head - UT

Sundance - UT

Deer Valley - UT

PowMow - UT

Nordic Valley - UT

Grand Targhee - WY

 

Canada:

Big White 

Panorama

Sun Peaks

 

FYI, June Mt is part of the MCP and in a group with several other California ski areas (Cali4nia Pass)

 

I think there are a lot of additional midsize western ski areas that are not on a pass.  I didn't check each but I think each of the following is not on a multi mountain pass:

 

Several in Canada: Red, Marmot, Apex, etc.

All MT ski areas except big sky and bridger (LTPM, red lodge, whitefish, etc.)

All ID ski areas except Sun valley and schwietzer  (bogus, silver, brundage, etc.)

All WA ski areas except crystal, stevens and Snoqualmie  (baker, mission, etc.)

post #13 of 22

FYI for those of you worried about Aspen buying the Intrawest resorts it looks like they will still be on the MAX for 2018.

 

Q: What will happen to Intrawest’s passes?
A: While there are still great conditions for this year, next year’s season passes are already on sale. For the full 2017-18 winter season, Intrawest will continue to honor its multi-resort and season pass products currently on sale. This includes individual resort passes as well as the RMSP+ and the M.A.X. Pass.

 

Taken from this link

http://links.intrawest.mkt7382.com/servlet/MailView?ms=Mjg2MDEzMDYS1&r=MTI3Njk5ODA4OTAzS0&j=MTAyMTUyNDg5NQS2&mt=1&rt=0

 

Be great if in 2019 Aspen was added to the MAX pass. If Intrawest went on the Mountain Collection pass I would think about switching to it due to more resorts now in the East.

post #14 of 22

Isn't Mountain Creek missing from the East?

 

Quote:

Originally Posted by marznc View Post
 

It's official, the 2017-18 MAX Pass will include the ORDA mountains for a total of 44 places all over North America.  Whiteface, Gore, Belleayre, Windham, Lutsen and Granite Peak were added.  Stevens Pass is no longer included, but Crystal is still in.

 

https://www.themaxpass.com

 

 

* New for 2017-18

 

ALASKA: Alyeska
 

WEST
Washington: Crystal Mountain, The Summit at Snoqualmie
Oregon: Mt. Bachelor
California: Boreal
Nevada: Lee Canyon 

ROCKY MOUNTAINS
Montana: Big Sky
Utah: Brighton, Solitude
Colorado: Copper, Steamboat, Winter Park 

MIDWEST
Michigan: Boyne Highlands, Boyne Mountain
Minn.: *Lutsen
Wisc.: *Granite Peak

EAST
Maine: Sunday River, Sugarloaf
Vermont: Killington, Pico Mountain, Stratton
New Hampshire: Loon Mountain
Massachusetts: Wachusett
New York: Whiteface, Gore, Belleayre, Windham
West Virginia: Snowshoe

CANADA 
British Columbia: Cypress Mountain
Ontario: Blue Mountain
Quebec: Mont Tremblant

 

If you are curious about last year's discussion:

http://www.epicski.com/t/146695/the-max-pass-2016-17-for-39-areas-killington-tremblant-big-sky-steamboat-solitude-brighton-alyeska-crested-butte-and-more

post #15 of 22
Thread Starter 

Crystal is in the new Cascadia pass.  Sunday River and Loon are in the New England Pass.  So clearly MAX Pass is an addition to local multi-resort perks, not an exclusive type of deal.

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Originally Posted by Lpass View Post
 

Isn't Mountain Creek missing from the East?

Oops, will correct Post #1.  This list is getting so long it's hard to keep up.  Thanks!

post #16 of 22
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Originally Posted by marznc View Post
 

It's official, the 2017-18 MAX Pass will include the ORDA mountains for a total of 44 places all over North America.  Whiteface, Gore, Belleayre, Windham, Lutsen and Granite Peak were added.  Stevens Pass is no longer included, but Crystal is still in.

 

Just a correction, Stevens wasn't in the MAX pass; it was and still is in the Powder Alliance.

post #17 of 22

Stevens Pass was in both MAX and Powder Alliance last year.

https://www.reddit.com/r/skiing/comments/57z6dj/max_pass_quietly_adds_stevens_pass/

post #18 of 22

I stand corrected, I didn't realize that was the case last year.

post #19 of 22
Thread Starter 

Hmm, turns out that Mountain Creek wasn't the only one missing from the list in Post #1.  :o Updated now.   Completely lost Alberta at some point, plus Buck Hill in MN.  Hard to keep track when there are more than 20 or so on a list.

post #20 of 22
Thread Starter 

Prices for the MAX Pass go up on 5/2/17.  Last year the first increase was $50 for the standalone MAX Pass.

 

post #21 of 22
Thread Starter 

Was probably obvious to Canadians, but recently found out why the addition of a collection of places in Canada for 2016-17 at the same time made perfect sense.  They are all part of RCR, Resorts of the Canadian Rockies.  Although Mont Ste Anne and Stoneham in Quebec are not anywhere near the Rockies.

 

So for 2017-18, the core companies for the MAX Pass are Intrawest, Boyne, Powdr, and RCR.

 

post #22 of 22

Has anyone had any experience with the insurance offered by MaxPass?

 

MaxPass refers to Ski Pass Preserver of Arch Insurance Company administrated by Red Sky Travel Insurance. Spent some time on the call with Red Sky today and was really surprised how vaguely the terms are defined. The reps had no idea what MaxPass is at all and how it's different from a regular ski as much as you can single mountain pass. I am not sure the rep was 100% confident but it seems their refund is pro-rated just based on time - number of days of this season has passed already vs the total number of days in the season, but I am not sure how they define the start/end of the season since dates vary per area.

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