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What is your thought about Matte lenses in ski-goggles?

post #1 of 20
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Hey Guys,

My name is Marien and I am the founder of Mariener Eyewear. We are currently developing a technology we'd like to call Matte Reflective Lens Technology. It basically makes the lenses matte from the outside, but completely clear from the inside.

We are currently promoting this technology with the launch of our very first kickstarter.

I was wondering, besides getting the word out, what are your thoughts about adding matte lenses to your ski goggles? Would you like it?




Im wondering what you guys think. We definitely want to do things a bit different then all those other eye wear brands out there.

/Marien

/edit, I know this is my first post, but i'd like to get the discussion going, besides just blatantly posting a link, we could always use the feedback for our development. I'll be around.
post #2 of 20

They could be of real value IF they were to be extremely scratch resistant when they get iced over.

When you loose track of the trail due to sever icing - it is annoying to have to stop and gently try to remove the ice in order to continue.

At $90 for a replacement lenses for my Anon M2 that can hurt a bit especially on the days they are making snow and your are passing through the guns.

post #3 of 20
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Yes I agree. That's why we added the clear coat on top. We call them Matte Reflective as it has the properties of a matte/satin finish, but it still keeps the clear coat over the actual anti-glare coating (which makes the matte effect come to life).

 

Reflection wise the lenses are Matte. But they feel like regular lenses, with the same anti-scratch properties. Easy to clean without the worry of damaging the Matte finish.

 

/and may I say, wow, 90 bucks for a replacement lens.

post #4 of 20
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I think this guy doesn't ring a bell across the pond, but here in Europe he's a legend in the EDM scene. Anyway, without going too much off-topic. Theo is wearing one of the first prototypes. Our production lenses have a much stronger matte finish :cool but we kept hazing tot a minimum!

post #5 of 20

Is there a performance gain from the lenses? That's what I'd be interested in. Works well in low light, flat conditions, stuff like that.

 

Also, I just checked out the frames on the website. Do they work well with a helmet? I noticed a dip in the middle at the top. I'm not bothered by this, but my buddy says that opening between the helmet and goggles is like a cold laser that shoots in and gives him an ice cream head ache.

post #6 of 20
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Performance wise these lenses offer the same benefits as regular, mirror coated sunglasses. The way they will work in different types of conditions depends on a variety of factors, such as base lens color, tint level, color etc. Say for our goggles we've chosen to be in the middle of everything. For now we are interested to see what we can do with our sunglasses, as we are just ready to have our lens domes coated the way we want them. A larger finish for our goggle is the next step.

 

As for our goggle frame (The Mountain), ur friend is right, a helmet gap is something you don't want! It depends on the frame/helmet combination, but yeah the goggle seems to dip in the middle, but that evens out further down to the face/foam. It doesn't actually create a gap as it molds around your helmet so to speak.

 

Have look at our instagram account and see how they look.

post #7 of 20

The one thing I would look for is fewer double images and ghost images in lower light conditions.         

 

Just three days ago I was sitting in Glacier Creek lodge looking through a name-brand pair of mirrored goggles at the bright snow outside and shadow images were everywhere that wasn't washed out by brightness.

 

 

I freely admit I am a princess when it comes to optics.    Fewer double images, fewer ghost images, less coma off spot sources and less starburst off spot sources and edges is the way to my purchasing heart.    I am aware that, depending on how your double lenses are done, those criteria may or may not be part of your design goals.  

post #8 of 20
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Well, our Mountain Goggle does indeed have a double lens, which is made from a pre-curved acrylic. I do get what you're saying but I haven't personally experienced ghosting or shadows like such with our own material. We've used Giro Goggles in the past for reference. Im not saying we are on Giro level with our products, but price/quality wise we are up at the top in our price segment (overe here in The Netherlands atleast).

 

We've positioned our Goggle, which is just one version, as a one-lens do it all goggle, with again an in the middle strategy to best suit our buyers.

post #9 of 20
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Originally Posted by mariener View Post
 

Well, our Mountain Goggle does indeed have a double lens, which is made from a pre-curved acrylic. I do get what you're saying but I haven't personally experienced ghosting or shadows like such with our own material. We've used Giro Goggles in the past for reference. Im not saying we are on Giro level with our products, but price/quality wise we are up at the top in our price segment (overe here in The Netherlands atleast).

 

We've positioned our Goggle, which is just one version, as a one-lens do it all goggle, with again an in the middle strategy to best suit our buyers.

 

Thank you for the response; I apologise for putting you on the spot as it were.  

 

I just spent 3+ days being really annoyed at my (premium!) goggles.   Imagine skiing trees on a bright sunny bluebird day, and having  light flashes from ghost images of the bright spots flooding your peripheral vision.

 

Your single-lens sunnies look interesting.

post #10 of 20
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Thank you for the response; I apologise for putting you on the spot as it were.  

 

I just spent 3+ days being really annoyed at my (premium!) goggles.   Imagine skiing trees on a bright sunny bluebird day, and having  light flashes from ghost images of the bright spots flooding your peripheral vision.

 

Your single-lens sunnies look interesting.

 

That's okay, we stand behind our products and I don't mind explaining what makes our products tick.

 

I appreciate the feedback. That's why I registered on the forum and got my self into the lions dens and see what people think. ;)

 

Yes our sunglasses are very nice, especially for the price. Our coatings last long, our frames are very flexible, they are lightweight and they offer a good bang for the buck.

 

We are not in the midst of our kickstarter, for which we need all the support we can get. Im not rallying up people to start pleding, but hey, it doesn't hurt mentioning it sometimes.

 

 

See what the fuss is all about. Our current offering are all reflective like mirrors, but once our kickstarter has reached its goal we will be implementing our Matte Reflective Lens Coating to the line-up as well. Pretty exciting stuff.

post #11 of 20

Just a follow up for this thread @mariener has offered to donate some pairs for next months image of the month contest, so keep an eye out for them (no pun intended), hopefully we can get some helpful feedback/reviews from the winners. 

 

Personally I'm very interested in the scratch resistance as someone who often skis in areas where they're making snow or other conditions that necessitate touching the lenses for one reason or another. 

post #12 of 20

Just to clarify, the kickstarter is for sunnies only?   I don't see any mention of goggles there?

post #13 of 20
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Just to clarify, the kickstarter is for sunnies only?   I don't see any mention of goggles there?

 

Not sure re:kickstarter but here's the link he sent me for the goggles. Winner will be able to pick any pair: http://www.mariener.nl/snow-goggles/

post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by cantunamunch View Post
 

Just to clarify, the kickstarter is for sunnies only?   I don't see any mention of goggles there?

 

Not sure re:kickstarter but here's the link he sent me for the goggles. Winner will be able to pick any pair: http://www.mariener.nl/snow-goggles/

 

Ah, I think I see - all the current goggles and sunnies are mirror reflective; the kickstarter is for the matte lens technology.

post #15 of 20

The matte lens appears to be a fashion improvement, not a performance improvement for the eyes behind the lens....  so no thank you.

post #16 of 20
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Originally Posted by cantunamunch View Post
 

Just to clarify, the kickstarter is for sunnies only?   I don't see any mention of goggles there?

 

Sorry about the confusion. The Kickstarter we are currently running is for our new Matte Reflective Lens Technology. We would like to bring this technology to our Snow Goggles eventually.

post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by cantunamunch View Post
 

 

Ah, I think I see - all the current goggles and sunnies are mirror reflective; the kickstarter is for the matte lens technology.

 

Yes =)

post #18 of 20

Yes -  you produce a matte goggle that I can hide my shifty eye behind and I'll be wearing those things all over town.  But seriously if the price will be similar to your current goggle prices I would consider buying a pair.  

post #19 of 20
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Yes our goal is to keep things affordable all the way.

post #20 of 20

Just a follow up here, you can win a pair of their goggles or sun glasses by participating in this months image of the month contest: http://www.epicski.com/t/150530/april-2017-image-of-the-month-contest

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