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post #61 of 118
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I checked my emails, but I haven't received this. I guess that four consecutive years of buying a Mountain Collective isn't loyal enough. :confused

 

I received the e-mail yesterday, but the expiration date was 1/24/17. They sent a follow-up this morning with corrected date of 3/24. So now on top of paying bills from trip to Whistler, I get to buy two MCPs.

 

In other MCP news, Taos sent me an e-mail saying "we are going to extend the season and remain open Tuesday, April 4th through Sunday, April 9th.  Monday, April 3rd we will be closed for our Annual Employee Ski Day." It's still possible for me to use my days there, but not sure my back and SUV are up for another long road trip. I'd post this in the 2016-17 thread, but it's been locked. 
 

post #62 of 118
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Philpug posted this recently for those possibly looking at Mtn collective to facilitate attendance at 2018 Gathering:  "I will ask...If you have intentions of buying Mountain Collective Passes, and I am sure you are, please hold for a bit. I have reached out to them to see if they can do something for us. Give me a few weeks.'

This is really interesting, do you know how he's planning to notify people if he is able to get a some sort of group buy deal worked out?

post #63 of 118
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Liftopia just emailed me a $10 off loyal customer code good until the 24th. Glad I hadn't gotten around to getting the pass yet.


I checked my emails, but I haven't received this. I guess that four consecutive years of buying a Mountain Collective isn't loyal enough. :confused

Have you bought other lift tickets from Liftopia?  I haven't often but do use Liftopia for more than the MCP.  Wonder if the idea is to encourage those who haven't ever had the MCP to get one for next season.

post #64 of 118
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I checked my emails, but I haven't received this. I guess that four consecutive years of buying a Mountain Collective isn't loyal enough. confused.gif



I tried last night to get my pass, but couldn't get the discount code to work. I called their customer service number at lunch and the gal said they'd been inundated with emails. She was happy to do my renewal the old fashioned way. She did ask for the discount code, but I'll bet the number posted above is not unique.
post #65 of 118
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I tried last night to get my pass, but couldn't get the discount code to work. I called their customer service number at lunch and the gal said they'd been inundated with emails. She was happy to do my renewal the old fashioned way. She did ask for the discount code, but I'll bet the number posted above is not unique.

I had a completely different code.  Used the email link to get started.

post #66 of 118

I just renewed my Mountain Collective pass. I called them to ask about the loyal customer code emails. I was told that they were sent out in a random way. However, they were able to provide a code when I renewed over the phone. I'm happy.

post #67 of 118
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Originally Posted by Jamesj View Post
 

Philpug posted this recently for those possibly looking at Mtn collective to facilitate attendance at 2018 Gathering:  "I will ask...If you have intentions of buying Mountain Collective Passes, and I am sure you are, please hold for a bit. I have reached out to them to see if they can do something for us. Give me a few weeks.'

 

Originally Posted by spchin24 View Post
 

This is really interesting, do you know how he's planning to notify people if he is able to get a some sort of group buy deal worked out?

Latest word is no discount forthcoming, but you might want to verify that with Utah Gathermeister before taking action.

post #68 of 118

Were those discount codes sent to people who had

 

a) prior MCPs

b) any activity with Liftopia buying day passes

c) both

d) neither

post #69 of 118
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Were those discount codes sent to people who had

a) prior MCPs
b) any activity with Liftopia buying day passes
c) both
d) neither

I buy from liftopia, and did not get one, and I was a MCP passholder this season. But I bought it from MCP, not liftopia.
post #70 of 118
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I buy from liftopia, and did not get one, and I was a MCP passholder this season. But I bought it from MCP, not liftopia.

 

Ok, thanks.  For some reason I thought MCP was a creation of Liftopia, or they essentially helped midwife this with their mailing list/website.

post #71 of 118

aubergine is right.  If you look at the physical mailing address for "Mountain Collective" it is to Liftopia in San Francisco.  

 

If their data scientists are any good, they would be sending to a subset of all to better understand what works and doesn't work.

post #72 of 118
I'm guessing liftopia is an agent, not a principal. But yeah, still....

I have purchased MCP many years, but no discount email.
post #73 of 118

For informational purposes in the context of this thread the 2018 Gathering in Utah is tentatively set for March 4-9. 

post #74 of 118
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I buy from liftopia, and did not get one, and I was a MCP passholder this season. But I bought it from MCP, not liftopia.

 

Ok, thanks.  For some reason I thought MCP was a creation of Liftopia, or they essentially helped midwife this with their mailing list/website.


The concept of the MCP was started by someone at Aspen as I understand it.  First year was Aspen, Alta, Squaw, Jackson Hole.  Liftopia is a partner, but hard to know who comes up with the pricing, marketing, and scheduling ideas.

post #75 of 118

Status bar has moved fast this week.  Parents thinking about the $1 for kids shouldn't wait too much longer.  The expectation is that the kid price will go to $99 once the initial stage is done.

 

post #76 of 118
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The concept of the MCP was started by someone at Aspen as I understand it.  First year was Aspen, Alta, Squaw, Jackson Hole.  Liftopia is a partner, but hard to know who comes up with the pricing, marketing, and scheduling ideas.

I think it's owned by liftopia now. All the addresses and copyright info onMountain Collective page is all referencing aliftopia. The privacy statement references Liftopia Inc.
post #77 of 118
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The concept of the MCP was started by someone at Aspen as I understand it.  First year was Aspen, Alta, Squaw, Jackson Hole.  Liftopia is a partner, but hard to know who comes up with the pricing, marketing, and scheduling ideas.

I think it's owned by liftopia now. All the addresses and copyright info onMountain Collective page is all referencing aliftopia. The privacy statement references Liftopia Inc.


Not sure "ownership" is what counts, even if that's true.  What matters is how decisions are made on which locations to add or remove or pricing.  I would guess that there isn't one management team that makes unilateral decisions about the MCP and everyone else just goes along for the ride.

post #78 of 118

Christian Knapp from Aspen Ski Co. thought it up and they took it to Liftopia.      Probably for transparency.

I'm sure all decisions,  are made by an association of the resorts.

post #79 of 118

Ordered mine and such a good deal if you have kids.   Two years removed from the Epic pass now.   For a family of four it is $2616 for the Epic pass, compared to $800 for the MCP (kids $1).   

post #80 of 118
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Ordered mine and such a good deal if you have kids.   Two years removed from the Epic pass now.   For a family of four it is $2616 for the Epic pass, compared to $800 for the MCP (kids $1).   


How many days do you expect to get using the MCP?  How many trips away from home?

post #81 of 118
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Status bar has moved fast this week.  Parents thinking about the $1 for kids shouldn't wait too much longer.  The expectation is that the kid price will go to $99 once the initial stage is done.

 


​MarzNC, What is your expectation for next pricing stages?  Sounds like removing $1 child comes next?  When do they increase the $399?  When do they remove the bonus third day?  Thanks.

post #82 of 118
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Status bar has moved fast this week.  Parents thinking about the $1 for kids shouldn't wait too much longer.  The expectation is that the kid price will go to $99 once the initial stage is done.


​MarzNC, What is your expectation for next pricing stages?  Sounds like removing $1 child comes next?  When do they increase the $399?  When do they remove the bonus third day?  Thanks.

The last couple years the bonus day has been available until some time in May.  The price usually goes up $10 at each new stage, at least before the sales close during early summer.

 

The 2016-17 season was the first time there was the $1 kid price.  This time it's only good for one kid MCP per adult MCP.  It was gone by early April last year.  The $99 kid MCP started for the 2014-15 season.

post #83 of 118
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How many days do you expect to get using the MCP?  How many trips away from home?

Next year, I hope to goto Teleride, Mammoth, Taos, Aspen and SLC.   All of these are a 10 hour or less drive from Phoenix.  Might add Squaw with Mammoth and split the SLC trips to include Jackson/Sun Valley.  It all depends on work.   

 

This year I plan on hitting all the west resorts.  I only have Aspen, Taos, Mammoth and Squaw left.

 

With the smaller commitment of the MCP, I can also visit my local hill (Snowbowl) much more.  I have the RMSP+ this year but I'm dropping it next year to hopefully hit snowbowl more.  Honestly, if snowbowl had a more reasonable season pass I would consider it. 

post #84 of 118

Just bought my 2017-18 MCP.  I've got one every year they've been available.  I bought one for my son this year rather late, and paid $459.  We've hit Aspen Highlands, Snowmass, Telluride, and Jackson Hole on it.  I'm way ahead before I even head to SLC this weekend.

 

Awesome to see the 6 days of Utah skiing in there.  I was thinking maybe I should get my third day at Alta or Snowbird for the 2018 Gathering, but with 6 days to burn instead of 2 I should be OK.  I'm hoping other people will see it that way too and plan accordingly (thinking of the gathermeister ?!?).  I picked Jackson Hole for the third freebie as usual.

post #85 of 118
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Just bought my 2017-18 MCP.  I've got one every year they've been available.  I bought one for my son this year rather late, and paid $459.  We've hit Aspen Highlands, Snowmass, Telluride, and Jackson Hole on it.  I'm way ahead before I even head to SLC this weekend.

 

Awesome to see the 6 days of Utah skiing in there.  I was thinking maybe I should get my third day at Alta or Snowbird for the 2018 Gathering, but with 6 days to burn instead of 2 I should be OK.  I'm hoping other people will see it that way too and plan accordingly (thinking of the gathermeister ?!?).  I picked Jackson Hole for the third freebie as usual.

 

Given the Gathering is typically planned for 6 days, there are people who are proponents of doing 2 days each at Alta, Snowbird, and Snowbasin. That would leave you free to get your third day at any of them if you stay for a 7th ski day around Gathering time.

post #86 of 118

So finally pulled the trigger and picked up the MCP for our family (2 adults, 2 kids).  $829 today.  (paid for one insurance)

 

I got tired of waiting for non existent coupons, and they never responded to my email inquiring about them.

 

Didn't feel like calling in over that question, although it seems like others were able to get some results.

 

And anyways, as noted, MCP is lot cheaper than variants of the Epic/Local what not.


But although the price is cheaper, the value really depends on usage patterns.

 

I've been disappointed with what we've gotten out of the Vail system last few years, but to be fair some of that is our local weather, and family low level sickness.

 

But also some of it is the constant wind issues that Heavenly/Kirkwood suffer. 

 

I think we'll get value out of MCP, but some of what we save on passes, will just end up getting spent on travel.

 

For us, many of the places are beyond our usual driving zones, and will require flights.

 

I'm probably one of the few not getting JH as the extra day. 


We went with Mammoth for 3 of them, and Aspen for 1 of them.  (I'm not sure that person will use up their allotted 2 days anyways)

 

Thanks everyone for comments/insights.

post #87 of 118
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I'm probably one of the few not getting JH as the extra day. 

 

My extra day next year is actually Taos. Though it's very early, I'm thinking I'll make it there for a Ski Week.

 

Your comment makes me curious though - I wonder what the most popular resort is for the bonus day. Jackson Hole is a good bet based on popularity - but it's a tough mountain and not easily reached. I'd think Mammoth, Squalpine, or one of the Utah resorts would be in the running due to ease of travel and proximity to larger populations. Or maybe even Sugarbush this year.

post #88 of 118
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I'm probably one of the few not getting JH as the extra day. 

 

My extra day next year is actually Taos. Though it's very early, I'm thinking I'll make it there for a Ski Week.

 

Your comment makes me curious though - I wonder what the most popular resort is for the bonus day. Jackson Hole is a good bet based on popularity - but it's a tough mountain and not easily reached. I'd think Mammoth, Squalpine, or one of the Utah resorts would be in the running due to ease of travel and proximity to larger populations. Or maybe even Sugarbush this year.


Bonus day choice has lots of variables that go into the decision.  For me, I always do a late season trip to Alta regardless of what other trips I take.  So the bonus choice is usually Alta.  Doesn't necessarily save the most but I know I'll use it.  One year I picked Aspen because I was going to Denver for another reason that was the push to make sure I got to Aspen for at least 3 days.  Sounds like that's dbostedo's thinking for Taos.  I know that's also true for a couple of my friends who went with me to Taos for the first time this season.

 

For a family that are not all advanced skiers, JH may not even be on their list yet for a trip.  Getting there is expensive if flying directly into JH.  Especially if they live in the northeast.  I know of people who picked Sugarbush just because it's close enough that they expect to drive there once or twice.

 

Fair to say that those who post on EpicSki in March about buying the MCP are probably not representative of who buys the MCP in general.   Those who can decide this early to pull the trigger are most likely a minority of the total purchasers.

post #89 of 118
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Those who can decide this early to pull the trigger are most likely a minority of the total purchasers.

 

Well that's another good question...

 

Given the cost savings of buying early - especially for those with kids - I'd assume most purchases are at least in the window where you get the bonus day, if not in the $1-kid window.

post #90 of 118
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Those who can decide this early to pull the trigger are most likely a minority of the total purchasers.

 

Well that's another good question...

 

Given the cost savings of buying early - especially for those with kids - I'd assume most purchases are at least in the window where you get the bonus day, if not in the $1-kid window.


I wouldn't make that assumption.  If that were true, why would they bother with having so many pricing stages after the bonus day goes away in the spring?  Have even extended sales into Jan lately.  Presumably because enough people still buy the MCP after June.  I can't imagine that sales for a month or two when many people are done skiing would be greater than all the sales from August through January.  But I'm guessing.

 

Obviously it's nice to save money on lift tickets.  But for a family who travels for a ski trip, travel and lodging costs are far more than the lift tickets.  Very hard to know this far in advance for most families that a ski trip to a destination resort is going to work out, much less a trip that covers two destinations or two trips to separate destinations.

 

$99 for a kid MCP is still a very good deal.

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