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post #1 of 25
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I'm skiing at Okemo tomorrow, where it promises to be very cold.  I don't think my fleece neck gaiter is up to the job.  Heading to the ski shop and/or Dick's this afternoon.

 

My issue with the neck gaiter is that it isn't designed to stay up, and although it will keep my nose warm, it's not reliably up there.

 

Do those neoprene half-masks stay where they're supposed to be?

 

Will the whole thing stay in place better if I buy a balaclava rather than a half-mask?

 

Any specific recommendation?

 

Many thanks!

post #2 of 25

I use one of these things, works pretty well

 

 

post #3 of 25
I've never had a full face balaclava that I've loved. I always seem to fog my goggles since the face cover portion causes my breath the blow upward.

For really cold and windy days I use a fleece head cover, fleece neck gaiter, and an insulated hood on my jacket.
post #4 of 25
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@Abox

What's the brand name?

 

Thanks!

post #5 of 25
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As a nearly lifelong glasses wearer, I'm well aware of the fogging problem.  Anything that keeps the exhaled air from going straight down fogs up my glasses.

 

I wondered about those face masks that have a built-out nose with holes for breathing.  Do they prevent fogging?

post #6 of 25
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@Abox

What's the brand name?

 

Thanks!

 

Not sure...here's the link to that one, doesn't mention the brand name.  Mine's over ten years old and I don't know the brand either...tag just says 'assembled in Mexico'

 

It's good for fogging too since it's easy to pull the face piece up for the lift and down to ski. 

post #7 of 25
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Originally Posted by newboots View Post
 

I'm skiing at Okemo tomorrow, where it promises to be very cold.  I don't think my fleece neck gaiter is up to the job.  Heading to the ski shop and/or Dick's this afternoon.

 

My issue with the neck gaiter is that it isn't designed to stay up, and although it will keep my nose warm, it's not reliably up there.

 

Do those neoprene half-masks stay where they're supposed to be?

 

Will the whole thing stay in place better if I buy a balaclava rather than a half-mask?

 

Any specific recommendation?

 

Many thanks!

 

Not sure if you already bought something - if not consider taking a look at the WSI Heatr Windstop Hood. It is the best face mask I've come across. They actually sell it at the retail store at the base of Okemo by the clock tower - around $65. You can get it for around $55 on Amazon. The entire family uses one and loves it. Super thin yet super warm and great coverage and fit - son, wife and I use the same one (same size) and it fits each one of us perfectly. 

 

Here is a brief description: 

 

HEATR® fabric placed along neck, covering major arteries for extra warmth Soft, brushed ProWikMax® lining covers top of head and front of face Can be worn alone or fits easily under a helmet. Water and wind resistant Designed to block wind in sub-zero windchill and extreme, cold weather conditions Proudly Made in the USA. Fabric Features: HEATR®: 70% Polyester, 27% HEATR®, 3% Spandex Stay warmer and drier in the amazing HEATR® products WSI's HEATR® fabric generates heat by a fiber that expands and heats up when it comes into contact with the skin HEATR® is comfortable, functional and moisture wicking The HEATR® technology is integrated into the fibers of the fabric therefore will not wash out Anti-microbial technology assists in destroying and inhibiting the growth of bacteria while simultaneously cutting down on odor ProWikMax®: 88% Polyester, 12% Spandex WSI® took its amazing WikMax® and added 4-way stretch compression to give maximum comfort and performance WikMax® material removes moisture away from skin better than any other competitor's product Anti-microbial technology assists in destroying and inhibiting the growth of bacteria while simultaneously cutting down on odor ProWikMax® has a brushed lining for soft hand and added warmth.

post #8 of 25

I bought a magnetic pull down mask (seirus magnemask).  i found I couldn't breath through it when skiing hard, so would need to pull the mask away.  Fogged up googles each time.  I guy I met on the chair suggested Turtle Fur balaclava.  Anyone else use this balaclava?

post #9 of 25
I bought a Celtek Samurai face mask this year. It's the best mask I've had as it's windproof and warm (but I still fog up somehow).

https://www.celtek.com/samurai-gore-windstopper/
post #10 of 25

I've had a neoprene half-mask for a few years now, and I've been skiing with glasses and OTG goggles recently as well. I like the neoprene half mask a lot and use it when temps are below 15 degrees F. As long as you remember to breathe through your nose, fogging problems are minimized. This also helps on your glasses - it really works: Zeiss Fog Defender Spray. (Google it; I couldn't get a link to work.) Here's me at Smuggs last March when it was 8 degrees; I was very comfortable.

post #11 of 25

I never liked full face masks.  Most of them don't vent well, so as others mentioned, fogging can be an issue with some.  The ones that works the best to prevent fogging, in my experience, have a flap that extends from the nose and covers two downward facing nostril holes.

Personally, I also don't do well with wet stuff up against my face, and full masks get wet quickly.  Most also require you remove them to eat and drink, which I find a pain.  With facial hair I've definitely had them freeze to my face.  I prefer neck gators.  What I find works well for me is to get them extra long and wrap them over the top of my head (held in place by my helmet).  Sits underneath my chin and I can easily pull it up over my mouth if needed.  I carry a few so I can swap them out if they get wet during the day.  Still get a few stay hairs frozen in it, but nothing like having a full face mask cemented to your beard and mustache.  Doesn't help with the nose though, since covering the nose like that will fog goggles.  I just cover my nose on lifts, and warm it with my hands if needed.  I've never really found face protection I liked, but neck gators have been the most tolerable for me.

post #12 of 25
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As long as you remember to breathe through your nose, fogging problems are minimized. 

 

 

When I'm jamming hard through trees and deep snow I need more than my nostrils to breathe. When I get to the bottom of the run I can be breathing heavily.

 

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Personally, I also don't do well with wet stuff up against my face, and full masks get wet quickly.  

 

Same here. That dampness against my face on a cold, windy day is not good. My favorite fleece neck gaiter is pretty good about not feeling clammy at least.

post #13 of 25

I realize it's too late but what I'm using these days is the Facesaver.  It covers nose and cheeks, but not chin.  Made by a good guy in Park City so only available in retail stores around SLC.  Can order online directly from him.

 

http://www.facesavermask.com

post #14 of 25
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I realize it's too late but what I'm using these days is the Facesaver.  It covers nose and cheeks, but not chin.  Made by a good guy in Park City so only available in retail stores around SLC.  Can order online directly from him.

 

http://www.facesavermask.com


Ha ha, it makes you look like a weird muppet! I'll be in Park City in a few weeks and will go check them out.

post #15 of 25
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Originally Posted by marznc View Post
 

I realize it's too late but what I'm using these days is the Facesaver.  It covers nose and cheeks, but not chin.  Made by a good guy in Park City so only available in retail stores around SLC.  Can order online directly from him.

 

http://www.facesavermask.com


Ha ha, it makes you look like a weird muppet! I'll be in Park City in a few weeks and will go check them out.


Could be.  I like the Muppets.

 

I'm also using something to keep my butt warm while riding a chairlift that isn't exactly a fashion statement.  I'm a ski nut, not a model.  :rolleyes 

post #16 of 25
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Originally Posted by marznc View Post
 

I realize it's too late but what I'm using these days is the Facesaver.  It covers nose and cheeks, but not chin.  Made by a good guy in Park City so only available in retail stores around SLC.  Can order online directly from him.

 

http://www.facesavermask.com

 

Ok, I think we have a winner here!  This one will let you breath via your mouth since it doesn't cover it.  And the price is great too.

post #17 of 25
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Originally Posted by newboots View Post
 

As a nearly lifelong glasses wearer, I'm well aware of the fogging problem.  Anything that keeps the exhaled air from going straight down fogs up my glasses.

 

I wondered about those face masks that have a built-out nose with holes for breathing.  Do they prevent fogging?

If you're still looking, you might do well with one of those. I bought three of them online for $2 each, with free shipping, from some Chinese company. The vent holes over the mouth don't quite get the job done. But there's an easy fix. I just took some scissors and cut a hole about an inch square where the little perforations used to be. It really breathes freely now, and it's still plenty warm enough.

When it's really, really cold, I wear the mask over an open-faced balaclava pulled up over my chin. With a helmet. goggles and a neck gaiter, there's no skin exposed to the cold.

 

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post #18 of 25
I am slightly tempted to just cut down my neoprene face warmer to create my own equivalent to the facesaver. I've been using it for the last week and it wasn't really a problem until today when it warmed up to around 12. Now it was cold without it, and too warm with it. Friends have these pieces that attach to the goggles without going around the back of your head, but I haven't seen them lately.
post #19 of 25
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Above, sexy.

Below, full Darth Vader:



I chose the Seirus Combi Clava. No fog!
Edited by newboots - 1/8/17 at 6:06pm
post #20 of 25

Might want to check out the mask from Outeru (http://www.outeru.com/) - I've been using one for the last couple of seasons and really like it (no affiliation, just like the product).

 

Covers nose/cheeks and works well with a Buff or other neck gaiter - I really hate to ski with my mouth covered so this is a great solution.

 

 

 

Bill

post #21 of 25
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Originally Posted by wrpeterson View Post
 

Might want to check out the mask from Outeru (http://www.outeru.com/) - I've been using one for the last couple of seasons and really like it (no affiliation, just like the product).

 

Covers nose/cheeks and works well with a Buff or other neck gaiter - I really hate to ski with my mouth covered so this is a great solution.

 

[snip photo]

 

Bill

Glad to see that's available.  Saw the unsuccessful Kickstarter a few years ago.  A smarter version of the Face Saver idea since the nose section is moldable.

 

A review of both from 2015:

http://www.theskidiva.com/gear-review-partial-face-masks/

post #22 of 25

Simple facetube like a buff pulled to the top of my head, then adjusted up or down on my face depending on how I feel

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Above, sexy.

Below, full Darth Vader:



I chose the Seirus Combi Clava. No fog!

What the hell is that on your head?

 

 

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Originally Posted by wrpeterson View Post
 

Might want to check out the mask from Outeru (http://www.outeru.com/) - I've been using one for the last couple of seasons and really like it (no affiliation, just like the product).

 

Covers nose/cheeks and works well with a Buff or other neck gaiter - I really hate to ski with my mouth covered so this is a great solution.

 

 

 

Bill

One of the more disturbing things I have seen. This has devolved in to the kind of thing that makes Epic, Epic.

post #23 of 25
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One of the more disturbing things I have seen. This has devolved in to the kind of thing that makes Epic, Epic.

 

Perhaps you don't get out much?  

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Perhaps you don't get out much?  

Perhaps you missed where I live.

post #25 of 25
I've been using one of these insulated hunting balaclavas for 10 years. Will buy another one eventually. Using it today in a Northern Japan storm.
Goggles don't fog due to the breath diffuser and it easily pulls down to expose nose and mouth as I prefer not having face covered unless I need to. Highly reccomemnded.
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