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Binding adjustment for second boots

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 

Hi guys,

 

Can yoy please advise, wether I should do binding adjustement every time when I change the skiboots?

Eg, I have adjusted Atomic XTO12 on my Redsters SL for Atomic Hawx 100 (size 26.5).

Now I am going to try another boots -  Atomic Redster Pro 130 (same size: 26.5) on them.

Should I go to ski service and ask them fot adjustment?

 

Thanks.

post #2 of 15

Same length of boot would require the same binding adjustment.  I have two slightly different length boots, but without adjusting the bindings the Forward Pressure Indicator is still within the range.  That's good enough for me!  I'm too lazy to adjust the DIN setting down for the shorter boots as well.

post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 

Thanks,

 

Is there adjustment depending om sole height? Eg, 2 boots with the same size but it might be that they have different sole height.

post #4 of 15
Thread Starter 

Thanks,

 

Is there adjustment depending om sole height? Eg, 2 boots with the same size but it might be that they have different sole height.

post #5 of 15

Most (all?) modern bindings do not require a toe height adjustment.  Part of the DIN standard 9462:2014 addresses ski boot sole configuration.

 

Post a photo of the back of your heel binding.  List the make and model of the binding.  Someone here will tell you where the visual indicator is for the forward pressure.  You will be able to see for yourself how your boots fit.

post #6 of 15

Most (all?) modern bindings do not require a toe height adjustment.  Part of the DIN standard 9462:2014 addresses ski boot sole configuration.

 

Post a photo of the back of your heel binding.  List the make and model of the binding.  Someone here will tell you where the visual indicator is for the forward pressure.  You will be able to see for yourself how your boots fit.

post #7 of 15
No, there should be no difference in height between the two, unless excessive wear has happened to one.
post #8 of 15

You need to verify that the length is "close enough" between the two boots.   Your 26.5 is the inside size (the size that fits your foot).  There should also be a marking on the boot sole that indicates the length, like 320mm or 318mm or 315 mm.

 

If your two boots lengths are within 5mm of each other, you should be good to go.

 

As indicated in other posts, the DIN standard will ensure that the toe height, width, heel cup, and other standardized measurements are the same.

 

As indicated in another post, you can also verify by stepping in and seeing if the forward pressure indicator on your binding is within the proper range markings.

 

Both of these ski boots fit my bindings without adjustments when swapping:  (318mm 27.5  and   320mm 27)

 


Edited by pchewn - 1/6/17 at 4:49pm
post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
 

Same length of boot would require the same binding adjustment.  I have two slightly different length boots, but without adjusting the bindings the Forward Pressure Indicator is still within the range.  That's good enough for me!  I'm too lazy to adjust the DIN setting down for the shorter boots as well.


Since I don't adjust it, it doesn't matter, but I still need to make a correction.  It's the longer boot that would have the lower DIN.:o 

post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by SoftSnowGuy View Post
 

Most (all?) modern bindings do not require a toe height adjustment. 

With the exception of: all Marker Royalty Family bindings, Tyrolia Aattack and FF Evo bindings, Salomon STH2 and Warden bindings... so yeah, LOOK high performance bindings are self adjusting, everything else... not so much.

post #11 of 15

While the two boots are the same 26.5 size, the sole length could be slightly different.  You need to check that the forward pressure for each boot is within the range.  If it is, you are good to go.

post #12 of 15

according to the shop manual that binding has a self adjusting toe so you don't need to worry about that. You still need to check forward pressure even if the BSL is the same--boots fit differently into bindings. The odds are that the FP won't need adjusting but you have to check to be sure. If the BSL is significantly different--very unlikely--you would have to recheck the DIN.

post #13 of 15
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SoftSnowGuy View Post
 

Most (all?) modern bindings do not require a toe height adjustment.  Part of the DIN standard 9462:2014 addresses ski boot sole configuration.

 

Post a photo of the back of your heel binding.  List the make and model of the binding.  Someone here will tell you where the visual indicator is for the forward pressure.  You will be able to see for yourself how your boots fit.

 

 

Thank you for your reply.

 

I have 2 pairs of skis:

 

Atomic Ti Race SL 163 (with Binding Atomic NEOX TL 12)

 

 

 

and

 

Atomic Redster Edge SL 164 (with Binding Atomic XTO 12)

 

 

 

Should not I have any problem when I ski these skis with boots Atomic Redster Pro 130 (size 26.5) if their Bindings were setup for Atomic Hawx 100 (size 26.5)?

post #14 of 15
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Originally Posted by lavskap View Post
 

 

 

Should not I have any problem when I ski these skis with boots Atomic Redster Pro 130 (size 26.5) if their Bindings were setup for Atomic Hawx 100 (size 26.5)?

 

 

As explained by several above:   The "same size" 26.5 on both boots does not matter.   What does matter is the boot overall length that interfaces with the binding (from toe to heel).  It should be approximately 310mm (or so).    There are 3 ways to ensure both boots will work in the same binding:

 

A) Measure (or look at the markings on the sole).  If the lengths are within 5mm of each other they should fit.

B) Step each boot into binding and see if the forward pressure indicator of the binding is within the acceptable range.

C) Take them to a shop and ask for a binding evaluation with each boot.

 

Step A is easier than B is easier than C      

 

Personally, I would do steps A and B and be done with it.

post #15 of 15
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Originally Posted by pchewn View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lavskap View Post
 

 

 

Should not I have any problem when I ski these skis with boots Atomic Redster Pro 130 (size 26.5) if their Bindings were setup for Atomic Hawx 100 (size 26.5)?

 

 

As explained by several above:   The "same size" 26.5 on both boots does not matter.   What does matter is the boot overall length that interfaces with the binding (from toe to heel).  It should be approximately 310mm (or so).    There are 3 ways to ensure both boots will work in the same binding:

 

A) Measure (or look at the markings on the sole).  If the lengths are within 5mm of each other they should fit.

B) Step each boot into binding and see if the forward pressure indicator of the binding is within the acceptable range.

C) Take them to a shop and ask for a binding evaluation with each boot.

 

Step A is easier than B is easier than C      

 

Personally, I would do steps A and B and be done with it.

B or C. I got new boots.Marked BSL was one mm different. I had to adjust FP on all 4 pairs of skis--2 STH's, 2 Markers. The only way to know if FP is correct is the check it.

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