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post #31 of 46

For a long weekend, I just hit Nub's and call it good.

 

 

Save your money and fly out west for a longer trip.

post #32 of 46
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Thinking of a trip to Lake Placid/Whiteface, but does anyone have current info on whether the shuttle bus is running and if so the schedule/stops?  The links on the Whiteface and Lake Placid websites seem to be dead and there are several posts here and there on internet forums over the years but nothing too recent.  Anyone with current info (this season)? 


Welcome to EpicSki!  The Whiteface website is relatively slow, but it does work.  When are you planning on going?

 

The best place to get current info is on NYSkiBlog.com .  For instance, this is the ongoing Whiteface conditions thread:

 

http://forum.nyskiblog.com/Whiteface-Conditions-td4090306i360.html#a4095505

post #33 of 46

If you stay off-Mountain you can find sensibly-priced lodging near any of the big areas.  Also look at Gore, the closest big mountain if you're coming from the midwest.  Possibly also the cheapest as it and Whiteface are state-run.  Just bring a hat and mittens, it gets cold in Northern New England.

post #34 of 46
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If you are going to drive to VT then cross the other states and countries off the list. Vermont is an amazing place to ski if you go to the right Mt. Here are the right mountains:  Stowe, Mad River Glen, Sugarbush, Smuggs, and Jay Peak. Some would put Killington in the mix but it's a distraction for your trip.

 

Stowe has plenty of easier stuff and hard stuff too. It is an affluent ski resort. Jay Peak is notorious for it woods. It's a very challenging mountain and gets the most snow in the East. Smuggs has amazing terrain and slow lifts. Not much going on at night.

 

Mad River Glen and Sugarbush are in the Mad River Valley. Sugarbush is a resort - awesome, but Mad River Glen is tops in my opinion. If I were to direct a visitor to Vt skiing, Mad River is my favorite. It's old school with natural trails, no snowmaking, a fast single chair and dedicated skiers. If there is natural snow the skiing is the best. Just my opinion. Don't pick MRG if you want upscale and ritzy glitz resorts. Mad River is a ski area, not a resort. Don't go on the weekend. When you ski at Mad River, you will meet actual Vermonters.

 

"Ski it if you can" scares people away but the mountain is for everyone. Watch your skiing improve! 


The OP likes steepish groomers.  Mad River Glen is mostly bumps, so you might want to take it off your list. 

@dthogey, I presume you have snow tires?  

post #35 of 46
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The OP likes steepish groomers.  Mad River Glen is mostly bumps, so you might want to take it off your list. 
@dthogey
, I presume you have snow tires?  

Not sure how useful snow tires will be after driving on highways all the way from Michigan!
post #36 of 46
Thread Starter 
I am still keeping up with this thread. Thank you for all the input and advice. I'm pretty sure my wife will not be joining me. I think what I will do is wait until the time is closer and try to figure out where the best snow conditions are. I do want to avoid bumps and will stick to steep groomed trails. Thanks again everybody

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Not sure how useful snow tires will be after driving on highways all the way from Michigan!


​Winter tires are always best in cold weather, even on bare pavement. And it won't wear them out, if that's what you were thinking.

post #38 of 46

My understanding is that they are softer and wear quicker than all-season tires, so a long, high-speed (and high temperature from friction) drive from the midwest would wear the tread out. But I'm not basing my opinion on actual data.  

post #39 of 46

Lived in Michigan a long time and went both ways to ski. Agree with posters that going west is absolutely the right answer. Going alone flying to Denver direct on Southwest from Detroit is what you want to do. If cost is an issue look at Copper they often have deals

post #40 of 46
Im not sure where the OP is located in N MI, but if a 13 hour drive to an Eastern resort was on the table, how much longer would it take to get to a place like Red Lodge Montana?
post #41 of 46
Thread Starter 
I live in northern Michigan. Red lodge is 1500 miles/ 24 hour drive

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post #42 of 46

Try Stratton Mountain, VT.  I skied there in February and had a great time on the types of slopes you mentioned in your original post.  Although it can be busy on the greens and blues, the blacks were wide open when I was there.  

 

Overall, Stratton Mountain is not cheap, however, the Black Bear Lodge and Liftline Lodge are the more affordable lodging options and are both within very short walk to a few lifts, including the gondola that will take you directly to the top.

 

The base village is small but well developed with lots of restaurants, shopping and a spa (stuff for your wife to do while you are shredding).

 

Lastly, the Stratton Mountain is one of the southern most resorts in VT so your drive may be a little shorter than to Stowe, Jay Peak, Sugar Loaf, etc.

 

Have a great time wherever you go.  

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Im not sure where the OP is located in N MI, but if a 13 hour drive to an Eastern resort was on the table, how much longer would it take to get to a place like Red Lodge Montana?
Twice as long! But still worth it.
post #44 of 46
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My understanding is that they are softer and wear quicker than all-season tires, so a long, high-speed (and high temperature from friction) drive from the midwest would wear the tread out. But I'm not basing my opinion on actual data.  


​Winter tires are softer, that's part of the reason why they work better. But in cold weather, the wear difference over one road trip is negligible. The safety advantages are not.

post #45 of 46
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The OP likes steepish groomers.  Mad River Glen is mostly bumps, so you might want to take it off your list. 

@dthogey, I presume you have snow tires?  


I am not inclined to take MRG off the list! If the snow is good, there is so much natural flowing terrain that offers great skiing for new skiers (not beginners necessarily). I have skied there a lot over the years and it is agreed, the difficult terrain is true expert skiing. But the mountain is not just that. I have taken new skiers there and they did fine and the experience cannot be had at the big resorts.

post #46 of 46

Maybe try Searchmont by Sault Ste. Marie Ontario for a bigger ski hill. About twice the vertical of Schuss mountain and probably only a 4 hour Drive (with Border crossing) from Kalkaska. Not as good as Vermont or Lake placid , buy you would save about 18 hours of driving time.

http://www.searchmont.com/ 

 

For travel to Western Ski areas,  look at flights from Grand Rapids (GRR). It is a couple hours closer to Kalkaska than Detroit.   You could fly from GRR direct  to Denver  or GRR to Minneapolis to  Salt lake City SLC

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