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post #1 of 12
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Hey guys brand new to the forum:)

 

I was searching online for some answers to this question I have and saw how helpful you all are

and figured you may be able to help.

 

I am looking for a new pair of skis,

 

I am 15 and have been skiing since I was 4.

 

I live on the east coast and ski mainly Vermont and Upper NY

 

I am a higher end intermediate skier

 

I really like glades and challenging ungroomed downhills.

I do go into the park because my friends seem to like that but glades and such are my passion.

 

I am 5'5-5'6 and weigh 150 I currently ski on Volkl unlimited AC10's at 156cm.

 

I have been told that these are Beginner skis and that I should be looking into something that suits my needs more fittingly. 

 

 

Input as to certain skis and sizes I should look into will really be useful.

I have never really gotten into the equipment side of skiing so any tips would be much appreciated.

 

Thanks ahead of time! 

post #2 of 12
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Originally Posted by man9er9er View Post
 

Hey guys brand new to the forum:)

 

I was searching online for some answers to this question I have and saw how helpful you all are

and figured you may be able to help.

 

I am looking for a new pair of skis,

 

I am 15 and have been skiing since I was 4.

 

I live on the east coast and ski mainly Vermont and Upper NY

 

I am a higher end intermediate skier

 

I really like glades and challenging ungroomed downhills.

I do go into the park because my friends seem to like that but glades and such are my passion.

 

I am 5'5-5'6 and weigh 150 I currently ski on Volkl unlimited AC10's at 156cm.

 

I have been told that these are Beginner skis and that I should be looking into something that suits my needs more fittingly. 

 

 

Input as to certain skis and sizes I should look into will really be useful.

I have never really gotten into the equipment side of skiing so any tips would be much appreciated.

 

Thanks ahead of time! 


Hi man9er9er — Welcome to Epic!

 

I'm not going to talk skis (I'll leave that for others), except to say that if you're an upper intermediate, you could be on longer skis — 165cm +/-, fully cambered, or longer with rocker. There's a universe of ski choices. If you can find a free demo day at one of your mountains, you can try out a bunch of skis for free. (Demo days are posted on resort web sites.)

 

I'm going to give you the boot talk, though, so that when your feet stop growing, you'll think about spending money on the one piece of gear that improves your skiing.  If you've already gone to a real boot fitter (measures your feet in all directions, checks flexibility and ankle mobility, checks your stance, recommends a boot that seems too small, does a shell-fit without liner, then punches, grinds, etc. to make it fit closely but comfortably) you can ignore the following.

 

Your feet and lower legs are what you use to control your skis. If the connection between your feet and skis is firm and tight, every move you make will be transferred to your skis. You have confidence and control.  If that connection is loose and vague, you have much less control over your skis. Most people ski in boots that are at least one or two sizes too big, so most people lack that finest degree of control.

 

When your feet have stopped growing, save up your money for real, fitted boots. Go to a real boot fitter (people here can recommend one) and spend, say, $400 - $600 (possibly more) on a good pair of boots (the actual fitting work is usually free, if you buy the boot from the fitter). Boots last quite a while, and they'll improve your skiing like no ski can.

 

Good luck. Tell us where you ski; maybe we can hook you up with a demo day.

post #3 of 12
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Hi man9er9er — Welcome to Epic!

I'm not going to talk skis (I'll leave that for others), except to say that if you're an upper intermediate, you could be on longer skis — 165cm +/-, fully cambered, or longer with rocker. There's a universe of ski choices. If you can find a free demo day at one of your mountains, you can try out a bunch of skis for free. (Demo days are posted on resort web sites.)

I'm going to give you the boot talk, though, so that when your feet stop growing, you'll think about spending money on the one piece of gear that improves your skiing.  If you've already gone to a real boot fitter (measures your feet in all directions, checks flexibility and ankle mobility, checks your stance, recommends a boot that seems too small, does a shell-fit without liner, then punches, grinds, etc. to make it fit closely but comfortably) you can ignore the following.

Your feet and lower legs are what you use to control your skis. If the connection between your feet and skis is firm and tight, every move you make will be transferred to your skis. You have confidence and control.  If that connection is loose and vague, you have much less control over your skis. Most people ski in boots that are at least one or two sizes too big, so most people lack that finest degree of control.

When your feet have stopped growing, save up your money for real, fitted boots. Go to a real boot fitter (people here can recommend one) and spend, say, $400 - $600 (possibly more) on a good pair of boots (the actual fitting work is usually free, if you buy the boot from the fitter). Boots last quite a while, and they'll improve your skiing like no ski can.

Good luck. Tell us where you ski; maybe we can hook you up with a demo day.

Hey thanks for they response lakespapa.

I have not yet gone to a proper boot fitter and I am already slowing down in growth so that sounds like something I will certainly do in a few years.

Also thanks for the info on increasing the length of the ski for my skill level.

Also I ski at Gore and Stratton mainly. But living on LI I go to smaller mountains like hunter or mountain creek. That are closer however those closer mountains don't usually provide great conditions. Especially for my style of glades and off piste.

Again thank you there is a lot of info In this sport and I'm trying (slowly but surely) to get it all down
post #4 of 12

IMO you should start looking here, http://www.skiessentials.com/outlet/clearance-skis.html you should be able to find some wider skis.

 

Your at an age where your going to start growing and may gain a little weight in the next couple years. Assuming your male. You might want to email or talk with one of the people from that site and see what they would put you on. The shop it's self is one of the well known shops at Stowe. Pinnacle Sports.

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IMO you should start looking here, http://www.skiessentials.com/outlet/clearance-skis.html you should be able to find some wider skis.

Your at an age where your going to start growing and may gain a little weight in the next couple years. Assuming your male. You might want to email or talk with one of the people from that site and see what they would put you on. The shop it's self is one of the well known shops at Stowe. Pinnacle Sports.

I actually have pretty much stopped growing frown.gif maybe I'll reach 5'8 5'9 when totally done. My dad is only 5'8 and my mom is smaller then me now.

Idk maybe I'll have a second growth Spert I've heard that that happens

But either way I'll check that site out
post #6 of 12
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I actually have pretty much stopped growing frown.gif maybe I'll reach 5'8 5'9 when totally done. My dad is only 5'8 and my mom is smaller then me now.

Idk maybe I'll have a second growth Spert I've heard that that happens

But either way I'll check that site out


I didn't have my final growth spurt till I was in the USAF. I remember at basic training I had a 28" waist and was like 128lbs. I think 5' 7". I was 5' 113/4" and 158lbs when I got out almost 8 years later. Now at 62y/o I'm 195lbs.

 

Any ways that site will have some good prices on left over skis and bindings all new.

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I didn't have my final growth spurt till I was in the USAF. I remember at basic training I had a 28" waist and was like 128lbs. I think 5' 7". I was 5' 113/4" and 158lbs when I got out almost 8 years later. Now at 62y/o I'm 195lbs.

Any ways that site will have some good prices on left over skis and bindings all new.

Haha good to know that there is hope smile.gif

And yea I'll check the that site out right now.

I just still don't know what I should be looking for, in terms of glades and the conditions on the east coast. Like wider skis? Longer? And the curve.

So I really do t know what I am looking for one that site.
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Originally Posted by Max Capacity View Post


I didn't have my final growth spurt till I was in the USAF. I remember at basic training I had a 28" waist and was like 128lbs. I think 5' 7". I was 5' 113/4" and 158lbs when I got out almost 8 years later. Now at 62y/o I'm 195lbs.

Any ways that site will have some good prices on left over skis and bindings all new.

Haha good to know that there is hope smile.gif

And yea I'll check the that site out right now.

I just still don't know what I should be looking for, in terms of glades and the conditions on the east coast. Like wider skis? Longer? And the curve.

So I really do t know what I am looking for one that site.


In your case, a phone call to Ski Essentials to talk about your skiing and your budget would probably be helpful.  Even in this age of online shopping, sometimes there are a lot of advantages to direct person-to-person contact.

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Oh hey! Did I hear someone in here say something about skiing trees in the East? That's like... my thing. (I realize the Seinfeld reference will probably go right over OP's head, ah well)

A good ski for Eastern trees is something between 80 and 90 waist. Little bit of tip rocker is good, but you want camber underfoot. Size wise, something in the high 160s,low 170s.id say 171 max.
post #10 of 12

I think you'll find a "Freeride" ski is what your looking for. http://www.skiessentials.com/skis/men-s-skis/men-s-freeride-skis.html

 

Your going to want to talk with someone there, it's hard for us to tell, but I think your going to want a Men's ski not a junior ski.

 

 

If you can read the Sept. issue of Ski Magazine, that may help you get an idea, its the gear guide issue.

post #11 of 12

FWIW take  look at the Volkl Kink

 

https://www.volkl.com/skis/freeski/all-mountain/kink.html

 

It's a directional twin tip that works all over the mountain and a good ski for the conditions and terrain that you'll ski at Gore and Stratton.  The ski has not changed in the last few years so you will likely find good deals on it.  

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FWIW take  look at the Volkl Kink

 

https://www.volkl.com/skis/freeski/all-mountain/kink.html

 

It's a directional twin tip that works all over the mountain and a good ski for the conditions and terrain that you'll ski at Gore and Stratton.  The ski has not changed in the last few years so you will likely find good deals on it.  

 

FWIW, my son, who'll turn 17 in March, loved his Kinks. He was probably about your height, or an inch shorter, when we got them, but he was lighter (120 lbs. + / -) — we bought, I think, 163s. The only negative was a sort of delicate top sheet. My son's a park-and-rider, but I think the skis were capable of more. A light ski and fun.

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