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post #1 of 18
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I'm hoping this forum can help me come up with some ideas for skis. The soon to be Mrs. AngryBadger has put her faith in me to select some new skis for her despite my repeated protests that the reason I have so many skis is that I barely know how to buy them for myself.

Any ideas?

Where:
Mostly out west, we do a big trip or two every year. Ski a total of 10-30 days/year. Typically Jackson and either Utah

Terrain:
These are the wide skis in a 3 ski setup. She has a pair of women's slalom ski and some recently acquired Kenjas for a midfat. The new skis are replacing a pair of atomic centuries that were her first wider skis. The atomics are a little too soft and perhaps short.

These would get used in new snow and other loose snow conditions.

Level:
Advanced, technically very clean. Been skiing since she was a kid just like me.

Height and weight:
5'5'' and I don't know exactly, but about 180.

My thoughts:
I think with the new Kenja's she might be better off with a wider ski to replace the centuries. She tried the Nordica Santa Ana's (are those the 100 underfoot ones?) the same day I tried the enforcers. We both liked them, but I think at her height and weight she might get more utility out of a ski that was closer to 110 underfoot and/or a bit stiffer. Is that way off base? Any help?

Recommendations? Thanks in advance.
post #2 of 18
If @bounceswoosh is around, she can give you lots of info on women's skis in this category.
post #3 of 18

If she liked her Centuries, she'll love the Atomic Backland 109. 

It was one of my surprises from ski test. 

post #4 of 18
How do those compare to the Blizzard Sheeva?
post #5 of 18

The Sheeva is a little more vague. 

post #6 of 18

Thanks Tricia.  Hmm, interesting word.  So for a life long skier, PSIA Level 2, but still with old school movements do you think the vagueness is an advantage?

 

Would you consider the Soul 7 to be somewhat vague?  (I'm quite familiar with the Soul 7 since I've owned it for a few years.)

post #7 of 18

I think the tip initiation of the Soul 7 can be described as vague. 

post #8 of 18
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Originally Posted by AngryBadger View Post

I'm hoping this forum can help me come up with some ideas for skis. The soon to be Mrs. AngryBadger has put her faith in me to select some new skis for her despite my repeated protests that the reason I have so many skis is that I barely know how to buy them for myself.

Any ideas?

Where:
Mostly out west, we do a big trip or two every year. Ski a total of 10-30 days/year. Typically Jackson and either Utah

Terrain:
These are the wide skis in a 3 ski setup. She has a pair of women's slalom ski and some recently acquired Kenjas for a midfat. The new skis are replacing a pair of atomic centuries that were her first wider skis. The atomics are a little too soft and perhaps short.

These would get used in new snow and other loose snow conditions.

Level:
Advanced, technically very clean. Been skiing since she was a kid just like me.

Height and weight:
5'5'' and I don't know exactly, but about 180.

My thoughts:
I think with the new Kenja's she might be better off with a wider ski to replace the centuries. She tried the Nordica Santa Ana's (are those the 100 underfoot ones?) the same day I tried the enforcers. We both liked them, but I think at her height and weight she might get more utility out of a ski that was closer to 110 underfoot and/or a bit stiffer. Is that way off base? Any help?

Recommendations? Thanks in advance.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post
 

If she liked her Centuries, she'll love the Atomic Backland 109. 

It was one of my surprises from ski test. 


OP, I think your going to want to listen to ^.

 

If your girl likes the Kenja's, I'd push her towards the Women's 100eight. https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Volkl+womens+100eight I was impressed with how light, quick, toss able and confident the men's was.

post #9 of 18
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post
 

If she liked her Centuries, she'll love the Atomic Backland 109. 

It was one of my surprises from ski test. 


OP, I think your going to want to listen to ^.

 

If your girl likes the Kenja's, I'd push her towards the Women's 100eight. https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Volkl+womens+100eight I was impressed with how light, quick, toss able and confident the men's was.

 

Ditto ^^^^

post #10 of 18

Based on my experience with the 100Eights, I'd heartily endorse them as well for an advanced, technically clean skier. 

post #11 of 18
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the replies all!  I'm handing my account to Mrs. AngryBadger right now so she can respond.

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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post
 

If she liked her Centuries, she'll love the Atomic Backland 109. 

It was one of my surprises from ski test. 


My question about the atomic backland's is whether they are going to have too much tail rocker.  I'm used to skiing on edge and worry about skis that have the relatively deep rocker line the Atomic Backland's seem to have if I am on firmer snow on my way back to the lift.  I also wasn't that fond of the Atomic Centuries, because I felt like they were getting overpowered. What's the flex on the backland's like?  How noticeable is the tail rocker?

 

I really hated the Blizzard Samba/Black Pearls when I tried them because they felt sort of weird and like I was about fall over the front of the skis when I turned.  I like the Santa Ana's a lot more.  DPS Nina's I tried on the same day felt a bit too light.

 

Basically I like the stiffness of racing skis, but want more flotation in powder.  More excited about tip than tail rocker because when I fall in powder it is most often due to tip dive.

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Originally Posted by Max Capacity View Post
 

 

 


OP, I think your going to want to listen to ^.

 

If your girl likes the Kenja's, I'd push her towards the Women's 100eight. https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Volkl+womens+100eight I was impressed with how light, quick, toss able and confident the men's was.

 

Those are fully rocketed right?  Same concerns as above.  The Kenja's look like a  comparatively traditional shape.

post #12 of 18
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Originally Posted by AngryBadger View Post
 

Thanks for the replies all!  I'm handing my account to Mrs. AngryBadger right now so she can respond.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post
 

If she liked her Centuries, she'll love the Atomic Backland 109. 

It was one of my surprises from ski test. 


My question about the atomic backland's is whether they are going to have too much tail rocker.  I'm used to skiing on edge and worry about skis that have the relatively deep rocker line the Atomic Backland's seem to have if I am on firmer snow on my way back to the lift.  I also wasn't that fond of the Atomic Centuries, because I felt like they were getting overpowered. What's the flex on the backland's like?  How noticeable is the tail rocker?

 

I really hated the Blizzard Samba/Black Pearls when I tried them because they felt sort of weird and like I was about fall over the front of the skis when I turned.  I like the Santa Ana's a lot more.  DPS Nina's I tried on the same day felt a bit too light.

 

Basically I like the stiffness of racing skis, but want more flotation in powder.  More excited about tip than tail rocker because when I fall in powder it is most often due to tip dive.

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Originally Posted by Max Capacity View Post
 

 

 


OP, I think your going to want to listen to ^.

 

If your girl likes the Kenja's, I'd push her towards the Women's 100eight. https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Volkl+womens+100eight I was impressed with how light, quick, toss able and confident the men's was.

 

Those are fully rocketed right?  Same concerns as above.  The Kenja's look like a  comparatively traditional shape.


You sound like a Santa Ana woman, then. Boy, can I relate. (To the male version, anyway.)

post #13 of 18
Santa Ana lover here! Great skis!
post #14 of 18
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Originally Posted by AngryBadger View Post
 

Thanks for the replies all!  I'm handing my account to Mrs. AngryBadger right now so she can respond.


My question about the atomic backland's is whether they are going to have too much tail rocker.  I'm used to skiing on edge and worry about skis that have the relatively deep rocker line the Atomic Backland's seem to have if I am on firmer snow on my way back to the lift.  I also wasn't that fond of the Atomic Centuries, because I felt like they were getting overpowered. What's the flex on the backland's like?  How noticeable is the tail rocker?

 

I really hated the Blizzard Samba/Black Pearls when I tried them because they felt sort of weird and like I was about fall over the front of the skis when I turned.  I like the Santa Ana's a lot more.  DPS Nina's I tried on the same day felt a bit too light.

 

Basically I like the stiffness of racing skis, but want more flotation in powder.  More excited about tip than tail rocker because when I fall in powder it is most often due to tip dive.

 

Those are fully rocketed right?  Same concerns as above.  The Kenja's look like a  comparatively traditional shape.


When I demoed the men's 100eight, I had no idea they were full rocker, I found it easy to make railroad tracks on them. But I also find it easy to ski my Volkl Shiro's. I feel they are a wider version of my Kendo's. There is a little difference on the edge hold of the 119mm waist, but you need to realize what skis are on your feet and make small adjustments for that. When I decide to replace my Gotama's the 100eight will be the go to ski.

post #15 of 18
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Originally Posted by Max Capacity View Post
 


When I demoed the men's 100eight, I had no idea they were full rocker, I found it easy to make railroad tracks on them.

 

The rocker is really quite subtle, unlike other skis, like my JJs, version 1. It's more like the base has a smooth, slightly convex curve from underfoot to tip/tail.

 

When I decide to replace my Gotama's the 100eight will be the go to ski.

 

Did that this past April. And the Gotamas were, up to then, my all-time favorite skis of the last 30 years. They only had about 50 days on them, but now that they are my nephew's, they are in good hands.

post #16 of 18
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Originally Posted by AngryBadger View Post
 

Thanks for the replies all!  I'm handing my account to Mrs. AngryBadger right now so she can respond.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post
 

If she liked her Centuries, she'll love the Atomic Backland 109. 

It was one of my surprises from ski test. 


My question about the atomic backland's is whether they are going to have too much tail rocker.  I'm used to skiing on edge and worry about skis that have the relatively deep rocker line the Atomic Backland's seem to have if I am on firmer snow on my way back to the lift.  I also wasn't that fond of the Atomic Centuries, because I felt like they were getting overpowered. What's the flex on the backland's like?  How noticeable is the tail rocker?

 

I really hated the Blizzard Samba/Black Pearls when I tried them because they felt sort of weird and like I was about fall over the front of the skis when I turned.  I like the Santa Ana's a lot more.  DPS Nina's I tried on the same day felt a bit too light.

 

Basically I like the stiffness of racing skis, but want more flotation in powder.  More excited about tip than tail rocker because when I fall in powder it is most often due to tip dive.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Capacity View Post
 

 

 


OP, I think your going to want to listen to ^.

 

If your girl likes the Kenja's, I'd push her towards the Women's 100eight. https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Volkl+womens+100eight I was impressed with how light, quick, toss able and confident the men's was.

 

Those are fully rocketed right?  Same concerns as above.  The Kenja's look like a  comparatively traditional shape.


You sound like a Santa Ana woman, then. Boy, can I relate. (To the male version, anyway.)


The Backland is more edge able than you may imagine, and, while I appreciate that you want to get it on edge, that is not why you buy a ski like this. 

Remember, for everything you're asking a ski to do, you're going to give up something in another category. 

 

If you really want edge able in a ^105^ category, you may want to go to the Volkl 100eight. 

post #17 of 18
Not in the width category, but when I let my wife, whose measurements are similar, try my spare Nergy 90s, her comment: "You know you're not getting these back, don't you?" You might like the new Enforcer 100. That's what I plan to replace the 90s with.,
post #18 of 18

A new lady for the skiing in my life:

 

First comes her lowly tip with her first hint of holy grip

Then her girthy shovel ready for any kickback or trouble

Along comes her waist in the middle so little it plays like a fiddle

Lastly the apple of my iris, a flared tail like Miley Cyrus’

All curves in the right places, certainly turns a lot of faces

All are concave and rarely misbehave

Seeking the full rail with no reason to bale

Nicely flowed goes my smooth payload

Fully bent as always meant

No powder hound you look for the rebound

But she could explode to another postalcode

So don’t let yourself get crazy, hazy nor especially lazy

Don’t ignore the tension, give focus and pay attention

Before she slaps you into the fourth dimension

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