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WC GS Skis - Newer Dynastar Speed Course vs Older Nordica Dobermann WC GS?

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Anyone have experience with the Dynastar Speed Course WC GS?  Been on an older pair of 21M Dobermann WC GS 191cm and I absolutely love them...super stable, precise, great edge hold, damp but if you push them they push back.  The Dynastars have a 30M radius at 188 but I've never been on them.  I like the fact that the radius is similar to my all-time favorite ski, the Dynastar Legend Pro and I generally like the "feel" of Dynastars. Any thoughts on how the Dynastar might compare to the Nordica?

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Well, I have owned several Rossi WC GS's, which are the same ski as the Dynastars, same factory, same innards, just different topsheets. Have not skied on the Doberman's. 

 

Love my Rossi's, but in all honesty do not see you being happy with a Rossi/Dynastar if you love Doberman's and LP's. Rossi/Dynastars are probably the flexiest WC GS out there at the moment. Doberman's, I've heard, not so much. 

 

What are your stats and what kind of racing?

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Actually, I don't race at all, I use the GS skis for hard pack days because nothing compares to a race ski on hard snow.  I'm 195lbs and a strong aggressive skier.  Because I'm not a racer, I'm looking for prior years new models to save on cost. 

 

When I originally started my search I figured I'd just buy a new Dobermann but the plate system they use nowadays only accepts Marker bindings.  I've had a recurring problem with my Marker Comp race bindings where the "lip" on the heel pieces that clamps down on the boot cracks and pieces of the binding separate during use.  Had the 1st pair warranted and now pair number two is doing the same thing.  Bottom line I don't trust Marker, so I figured I'd look at Dynastar because I totally trust Look bindings that their plates accept. 

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Someone else could coroborate what I'm about to say but I don't think riding a 30m radius GS ski would be in anything comparable to your Legend Pro. I think the GS skis are stiffer and will demand even more speed to be enjoyable. I skied Big Mountain skis with around 27m radius and liked it but when I tried an older women fis GS ski at about 23 m radius, I immediatly saw that I was playing another game...

 

Suggestions:

Blizzard R-Power: 21 m at 181

Rossi Master: 21 m at 180

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Well, I have owned several Rossi WC GS's, which are the same ski as the Dynastars, same factory, same innards, just different topsheets. Have not skied on the Doberman's. 

 

Love my Rossi's, but in all honesty do not see you being happy with a Rossi/Dynastar if you love Doberman's and LP's. Rossi/Dynastars are probably the flexiest WC GS out there at the moment. Doberman's, I've heard, not so much. 

 

What are your stats and what kind of racing?


I have both in my stable and they are totally different animals.  My Nordica GSRs are stiff and need to be driven like you mean it. Heavy on the toe, almost exaggerated inputs to get it to bend to medium radius turns.  Tight turns?  Forget about smooth ones, it's not in this skis personality.  It's damp, holds an edge like nothing else and allows you to go silly speeds with total confidence.

The rossi on the other hand likes more gentle inputs, will gladly bend tighter turns and doesn't punish you as bad for your transgressions.  The edge hold is still excellent, but not as strong as the Nordica.  I prefer them on tighter course set when racing.

Mogsie has some great suggestions, and I'd inquire about the Atomics and Fischers listed here:

 

http://forum.pugski.com/threads/its-here-scotsskiers-annual-race-closet-clearance-sale-part-1-race-skis-boots-bindings.2882/

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My teenage daughter skis on Dynastar WC 175cm Gs skis. She has been on Fischer RC4 gs for the last 2 seasons and she tells me that the Dynastars are much damper and give her less on snow feedback than the Fischers. She claims edgehold is similar and the Dynastars are little more stable at her top end speeds. She likes them, but loved her Fischers. I'll see how she does ths season on the Dynastars as I went with Dynastar for slalom and GS this year. In the past she raced on Elan Slalom and Fischer GS. I ski a Chrome 74 for my everyday ski and once I got used to the added dampness of the the ski, I absolutely love it. they are very stable and quite versatile for a 17m radius ski.

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Thanks for the input.  I wound up pulling the trigger on the 2016 Dynastar Course WC GS 189cm/27M...price was too good to pass up.  I'll post up a review once I get a few days on them.  Sadly, the Doberman's will be retired, but I've got a newer pair Fischer WC RCs for days I want a shorter radius turns.  

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Skis arrived.  Hand flexing them they seem much stiffer than the Nordica's which is surprising but keep in mind these were the older silver topsheets ('06/07 vintage maybe).  They feel much like my old race room Legend Pros but stiffer.  Paired them up with the SPX 15s and had them mounted up already...now I just drool over them till Loveland opens up next week.

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