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Ski hot gear bags? Anyone own them? Can you power with portable battery?

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 

Do those things take up a lot of power? I'm wondering if a portable battery with an AC outlet like this can power those things: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41sg0N%2Bq%2BRL.jpg

 

I know people usually charge them through the Car DC cigarette charger port, but mines is broken so I'm wondering if it's worth fixing. I don't use that port for anything else. I'd rather just buy a portable battery because I have other uses for them. 

 

Is there a consensus on what the best ones are? Or are there ones with an internal battery?

 

I have Zip fit liners and the idea of preheating them does sound pretty great for not having do a few runs to get them to mold to your ankles.

 

This is a hot gear bag in case you don't know what I'm talking about: http://images.evo.com/imgp/enlarge/46647/314620/hot-gear-classic-ski-boot-bag-black.jpg

 

It's suppose to preheat your liners so they fit better right off the bat.

post #2 of 14
Those bags keep heat well. Just turn it on the night before, or a couple hours before you leave. Once it's zipped up and warm the Hotbag stays warm.

A few runs with the Zipfit to get it molded? Zipfit liner is molded to you and stays that way, completely unnecessary to heat it up before skiing or take warmup runs. My Zipfits stay in the truck all season, just the boots come in.

You do know to put the liners on first and lace them tight before putting on boots.......?
post #3 of 14

I have the same bag.  If you plug it in to the 120V outlet the night before as Utahski suggested then you boots will stay warm on the drive up (depending of course on the drive time).  I usually use the "low" setting over night and bump the temp setting to medium in the morning while getting ready.  (I don't use the high setting anymore since the one time I did I inadvertently glued (partially melted) my custom inserts to the foot bed in the boot.)  I drive about a half hour to the mountain and while I normally plug in to the cig lighter on the way up I have ridden up with a friend without a plug and boots stayed warm.  Speaking of warm boots, the bag is designed to warm both boots and the liners.  Put both in the bag (liners in the boots) along with gloves and socks and any other small items you want warmed and you'll be one happy camper when putting on your boots at the mountain.  Especially if putting on your cold boots is normally a somewhat painful process as it was for me.  When the shells are warm they slide on like a slipper (almost). 

Now if I could just figure out a painless way to get them off at the end of the day.

post #4 of 14
Thread Starter 

By molding the zipfit, i mean it usually feels like it takes a few runs to fully break in the cork. The zipfit is pretty much the shape of my foot, but it still feels like my foot sinks slightly further back in the boot throughout the day. I can tighten the ankle buckle one notch tighter by mid-day. My big toe sticks out the furthest and can bump into the shell at times in the morning, but after my foot sinks back throughout the day, the overall fit is perfect.

 

It's not that it's terribly uncomfortable or painful when you first put it on in the morning. I was just hoping that warming up the zipfit can expedite that break in process, as well as keep my feet warm.

 

And yes, i do put the liners on my feet first before sliding it in the boot. 

 

My drive up is 1-3 hours depending on the resort and traffic. I probably have to get it on that high heat setting. 

 

I might as well give the preheat bag method a shot before buying a portable battery.

post #5 of 14
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Originally Posted by Mr Orange View Post
I might as well give the preheat bag method a shot before buying a portable battery.

I agree.  Just experiment with high heat settings for several hours (checking boots each hour) for a day prior to that first trip with the new bag then put it near the car heater outlet on the drive up.  And, depending on what material your foot beds are made of you may want to remove those prior to using the "high" heat setting.

post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by Mr Orange View Post
 

Do those things take up a lot of power? I'm wondering if a portable battery with an AC outlet like this can power those things: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41sg0N%2Bq%2BRL.jpg

 

I know people usually charge them through the Car DC cigarette charger port, but mines is broken so I'm wondering if it's worth fixing. I don't use that port for anything else. I'd rather just buy a portable battery because I have other uses for them. 

 

So your question is, should I fix the DC cigarette port in my car. I'd say yes. Do you  know why it doesn't work ? The part can't cost that much. Depending on where it is it in the Dash, it could be easy to fix. If you have a car that there is a on line "Car Forum" for, may be you could ask there how hard it is to replace.

 

You could always google "how to replace cigarette lighter outlet in ________"

 

Or are you asking about buying one of those Battery Jump packs that has a outlet for you DC connector ?  https://www.google.com/search?q=battery+jump+pack&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&safe=active&gws_rd=ssl

post #7 of 14
Thread Starter 

After looking it up, it does seem like DC car port thing isn't that expensive to fix. I might just do it. My car is just so old and on it's way out that i don't like fixing small things on it anymore. 

 

Sometimes too, you're in someone elses car and there's only room in the back for luggage.

 

With a portable battery though, i have other uses for it as well. Just was wondering if there's a way to know the mininum amount of power one of the hot gear bags needs so i could get the appropriate battery for it. 

post #8 of 14

I don't use a heated bag but i do have the stick type boot dryer/heater and it draws 5watts per stick and can be run on 12vDC or 120AC. I also have an older back up set that draws 8watts per stick AC. So I would expect a heated boot bag to be about 5-8watt electric draw or more.

post #9 of 14
I have some sticks that blew out my car's cigarette lighter twice. Just a fuse, but clearly the draw was too much. Was using a car jump starter that wouldn't hold a charge long enough to use it for your car, but would last a week for the sticks and it worked okay, so when it went south I just bought a new jumper pack and use that to keep my boots warm on the way to the hill. I'm sure it would work just fine for a bag.

I have this thing: Jump-N-Carry JNC660C 1700 Peak Amp 12-Volt Jump Starter (CEC Compliant) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CMP3Z1C/ref=cm_sw_r_taa_WE-9xbY6D9WYJ

Note, it doesn't have a compressor as I already own a separate one and was trying to save money. It's nice as it doesn't take up much room compared to some others.
post #10 of 14

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=car+cigarette+lighter+socket+replacement

 

I see one of them from walmart has two wires, you could attach them to the fuse block and just use that instead of fixing the one in the dash...???

 

 

I've also plugged my heated boot bag into and outlet in the base lodge while I'm getting ready. But I stay a mile from the mt, I normally turn the bag on when I get up, after breakfast, coffee and shower, watch a little of the AM news, throw the bag in car drive to the hill, (there by 7AM) hang the bag on the ski rack while I park the car, give it a 15 minute charge in the base lodge, the boots are nice and toasty when I put them on. I only use the heater when its really cold out not all the time. I'm talking single digits.  

post #11 of 14
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

I have this thing: Jump-N-Carry JNC660C 1700 Peak Amp 12-Volt Jump Starter (CEC Compliant) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CMP3Z1C/ref=cm_sw_r_taa_WE-9xbY6D9WYJ

Note, it doesn't have a compressor as I already own a separate one and was trying to save money. It's nice as it doesn't take up much room compared to some others.

 

Thanks for the battery suggestion. Those sticks probably draw more power than the heat bag so i'm sure this would work. The air compressor is just for emergency tire inflation right...?

 

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Originally Posted by Max Capacity View Post
 

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=car+cigarette+lighter+socket+replacement

 

I see one of them from walmart has two wires, you could attach them to the fuse block and just use that instead of fixing the one in the dash...???

 

 Heard about this suggestion too. Probably faster and cheaper this way.

post #12 of 14
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Originally Posted by Mr Orange View Post

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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

I have this thing: Jump-N-Carry JNC660C 1700 Peak Amp 12-Volt Jump Starter (CEC Compliant) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CMP3Z1C/ref=cm_sw_r_taa_WE-9xbY6D9WYJ

Note, it doesn't have a compressor as I already own a separate one and was trying to save money. It's nice as it doesn't take up much room compared to some others.

Thanks for the battery suggestion. Those sticks probably draw more power than the heat bag so i'm sure this would work. The air compressor is just for emergency tire inflation right...?


Right. A lot of these jumper batteries come with a compressor and any number of other things like flashing lights, inverters, etc. My husband and daughter have the "everything" models. I just wanted to keep my boots warm. (You can tell where my priorities are.)
post #13 of 14

Just buy a bunch of Samsung Galaxy 7s, I hear they are going for real cheap right now.  Turn them on and drop one into each boot before the drive up the mountain.  By the time you get there your boots will be nice and toasty!

post #14 of 14

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_cycle_battery

 

If you want the battery to last, spend some time looking for the appropriate kind.  Some batteries are OK with being drained to nearly dead, some are not.  You want a deep cycle battery (battery that you can pull constant current for multiple hours) so you don't burnt it out too quickly.  Using the wrong type of battery will result in reducing the number of useful charges you can get out of it.

 

120VAC inverters are not super efficient - but will probably be OK.  You will also need to see what the +/- limits are on the DC input of the inverter.  Battery output voltage varies with temperature and state of charge.  Ideally you would have a DC/DC converter on the input of the inverter to stabilize the DC input to the inverter.  May or may not be necessary depending on the inverter specs.

 

I also assume you will be transporting this contraption road only?  If you get a lithium ion rechargeable to run this setup, you may not be able to take the battery on a plane (or in its cargo).  It depends on the battery size/type whether it can be taken on an airplane.

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