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Look Pivot 12 or 14 Ski Bindings?

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
Hey guys question for you. I am a DIN 7-8 setting and looking for new bindings for my new 170 Volkl Mantras. Can get the 2017 Pivot 14 WTR for $329 or 2016 Pivot 12 on sale for $199. What are pros and cons? Should I only be interested in being at DIN setting in middle of binding range or are their definitely performance considerations such as foot to boot to ski energy transfer capability attributes to consider as well. Give me some guidance here guys. 5'8" and 170 pounds and skier type 3 to 3+. Thanks.
post #2 of 17
My understanding is that the only difference in these two bindings is the spring strength, that you need the Pivot 18 to get a stronger housing construction. I ski a Pivot 12 at DIN 8. I don't know what effect WTR will have on the 14.
post #3 of 17
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XLTL if I might ask what level skier are you? Any complaints with the Pivot 12?
post #4 of 17

My bad, I was thinking of the px.  Pivot 12 is just as good as Pivot 14


Edited by Maineac - 10/2/16 at 7:18pm
post #5 of 17
No complaints on the Pivot 12. I'm 58, 6'6", 225 lb, Level 3, thus DIN 8. But I'd say level 6 intermediate on the other scale. I don't ski fast that much but when I do I like the confidence these provide. I didn't feel like paying a similar amount more for the 14. This was last fall's previous model year.
post #6 of 17
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Originally Posted by kenlockett View Post

Hey guys question for you. I am a DIN 7-8 setting and looking for new bindings for my new 170 Volkl Mantras. Can get the 2017 Pivot 14 WTR for $329 or 2016 Pivot 12 on sale for $199. What are pros and cons? Should I only be interested in being at DIN setting in middle of binding range or are their definitely performance considerations such as foot to boot to ski energy transfer capability attributes to consider as well. Give me some guidance here guys. 5'8" and 170 pounds and skier type 3 to 3+. Thanks.

There are look pivot 14's on eBay for $200 out the door
post #7 of 17
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Originally Posted by kenlockett View Post

Hey guys question for you. I am a DIN 7-8 setting and looking for new bindings for my new 170 Volkl Mantras. Can get the 2017 Pivot 14 WTR for $329 or 2016 Pivot 12 on sale for $199. What are pros and cons? Should I only be interested in being at DIN setting in middle of binding range or are their definitely performance considerations such as foot to boot to ski energy transfer capability attributes to consider as well. Give me some guidance here guys. 5'8" and 170 pounds and skier type 3 to 3+. Thanks.

Do you jump off cliffs? Hit the pro-line in the park? 

 

If not, go with the Look 12's and call it a day. They're all over eBay/Internet right now.

post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 
Ok. Bought the Pivot 12 set this evening. I have the 2016 Mantra with 100mm waist. Shop recommended the 95mm brake over the 115mm brake. No problem with 95mm he said as long as shop knows what they are doing. Do you guys agree? Any benefit one way or another going with 95mm versus 115mm? My thougt was brakes being closer to ski is better intuitively and shop assured me no problem with 95mm brake like I said. Opinions appreciated. Thanks.
post #9 of 17
The Elans shown above are 88 cm wide and mounted with 95 mm bindings. The rule of thumb I've heard is no more than 10 mm larger than the ski width, so you can avoid the brake snagging on your pants, twigs, rocks, etc. However, don't know what the limit is on narrower. If the shop that is recommending 95 mm is the shop that will mount them, then you should be okay.
post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by XLTL View Post

The Elans shown above are 88 cm wide and mounted with 95 mm bindings. The rule of thumb I've heard is no more than 10 mm larger than the ski width, so you can avoid the brake snagging on your pants, twigs, rocks, etc. However, don't know what the limit is on narrower. If the shop that is recommending 95 mm is the shop that will mount them, then you should be okay.

Yep. I agree. Let the shop guys do it, you should be fine. Don't put a 115 brake on a 100 ski - unless it's last resort.

 

It's almost time to SKI!!

post #11 of 17

"What Don't put a 115 brake on a 100 ski - unless it's last resort."

Hi everybody. What about 115 brakes on 106 ski?  Isn't 115 to wide? I am planning to put Pivot 12 or 14 on Rossi Soul 7 which is 106 width.

post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by eeydelman View Post
 

"What Don't put a 115 brake on a 100 ski - unless it's last resort."

Hi everybody. What about 115 brakes on 106 ski?  Isn't 115 to wide? I am planning to put Pivot 12 or 14 on Rossi Soul 7 which is 106 width.

You should be fine.  The brakes are only 9mm wider than the ski, 4.5mm per side.

post #13 of 17

Thanks mtcyclist. I demoed Soul 7 with 120 breakes (i think it was 120) and couple times they hooked my pants :( That was pretty unpleasant.

post #14 of 17

Why can't you put 100 or even 110 brakes on it?

post #15 of 17
Because Look pivot comes with 95 or 115 only.
post #16 of 17

Good enough reason I guess.  I've never used Pivots, too heavy.

post #17 of 17
I just got attack 13s from jans in park city (ordered online) for about $150.
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