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post #1 of 29
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Taking a trip to Jackson Hole for a week in late January with 6-8 guys. I wanted to get input from others on whether we should stay in Teton Village in a condo for the convenience of being able to walk/short shuttle to the lifts or stay outside Teton Village where your money goes much further and we could get a big nice house but have to drive to and from the resort. If recommending to stay in Teton Village I would also love to hear ideas on where to stay for this size group. I have mainly been looking on Homeaway thus far.

 

We would probably be looking to go out at night maybe half the days we are there if I had to guess. We will have one car as one person is driving out so if staying outside of Teton Village we would probably need to rent another car.

 

I am leaning toward Teton for just the convenience to skiing but others see these beautiful homes for the same price and are drawn to that. Thanks in advance for any comments!

post #2 of 29

I rented a house in 2012 for a large group that was about halfway between Jackson and Teton Village (near the Aspens).  I've also stayed in a condo that was walk-out, ski-in (by the Moose Creek lift).  I've stayed far more times in town.  There's more to do, and lodging is much better pricewise.  Keep in mind that Jackson is far busier in the summer.  Check out Elk Country Inn, 49er, Cowboy Village - all with free shuttles to the ski hill.

 

I'd recommend a day at Snow King too.  It has enough gnar for most skiers, and is less than half the cost of JHMR.  The lodging there is reasonable too, even if you spend most of the time at JHMR.

 

Still, with 6-8 people to defray the costs, you might break even at Teton Village.  Most of the Teton condos that I looked at weren't big enough for 8 guys, however - I would've had to get two side by side.  

 

If you are the point man for this bro-cation, good luck herding the cats.

post #3 of 29
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Taking a trip to Jackson Hole for a week in late January with 6-8 guys. I wanted to get input from others on whether we should stay in Teton Village in a condo for the convenience of being able to walk/short shuttle to the lifts or stay outside Teton Village where your money goes much further and we could get a big nice house but have to drive to and from the resort. If recommending to stay in Teton Village I would also love to hear ideas on where to stay for this size group. I have mainly been looking on Homeaway thus far.

 

We would probably be looking to go out at night maybe half the days we are there if I had to guess. We will have one car as one person is driving out so if staying outside of Teton Village we would probably need to rent another car.

 

I am leaning toward Teton for just the convenience to skiing but others see these beautiful homes for the same price and are drawn to that. Thanks in advance for any comments!


How many skiers can fit in the private car, without luggage?  Late risers get to take the bus. ;-)

 

I've stayed in the Aspens as well.  It wasn't worth the extra money to stay in Teton Village for a group of 3.  One ski buddy provided the car.  Back then it was free parking for 3 or more at the Ranch (?) Lot that's a 2-min shuttle ride.  We also opted to share a locker so could leave skis, poles, helmets.  Was $5 each split 3 ways.

 

With a group of 6 or more who can fit in a big house, as long as everyone skis all day long, not being slope side is not a big deal.  At least that's been my experience for Aspen, Big Sky, and Eden (Snowbasin/PowMow).  Assuming the group is also on the same wavelength for what to do for apres drinks and dinner.

post #4 of 29

I have always stayed in town for the lower prices, but it has only been 1 or 2 people.

post #5 of 29

Again, smaller group, but we like staying in town. Jackson is fun, and not too far to get to JHMR.

post #6 of 29

Town is the most fun and it's easy to take the bus back and forth to the resort.  We rented a big place between the mountain and town one year and while it was fun bing in a big luxury place with friends it is so much easier and accessible to everything to be in town.  It can also be a PITA to coordinated activities and rides even with 2 SUVs which is what we had.

post #7 of 29
Thread Starter 

Maybe those herded cats were on to something then. I was under the impression Teton Village had a little more going on for night life and was bigger than it is. Maybe in Jackson or in between the two would be a good idea. May be a bit of a rowdy bunch as well so maybe somewhere secluded, out in the middle of the woods would suit us better anyways.

 

If staying in the town of Jackson is there public transportation that would take us to and from the ski resort or do we need to drive ourselves for this? Lockers were a good idea so we do not have to drag all our stuff around all week.

 

Also, any must see attractions, restaurants, nightlife that we should check out in Jackson?

post #8 of 29
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Maybe those herded cats were on to something then. I was under the impression Teton Village had a little more going on for night life and was bigger than it is. Maybe in Jackson or in between the two would be a good idea. May be a bit of a rowdy bunch as well so maybe somewhere secluded, out in the middle of the woods would suit us better anyways.

 

If staying in the town of Jackson is there public transportation that would take us to and from the ski resort or do we need to drive ourselves for this? Lockers were a good idea so we do not have to drag all our stuff around all week.

 

Also, any must see attractions, restaurants, nightlife that we should check out in Jackson?

     

Paging @Bob Peters , @tetonpwdrjunkie for current ideas for restaurants and nightlife in Jackson vs. Teton Village.


When it's closer to the date, you might post in the JH/GT thread.  Might get lucky and be able to meet up with locals or travelers who know JH well for a few runs.

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/147429/2016-2017-jackson-hole-grand-targhee-meetup-thread

post #9 of 29

I will echo what others have already said. I've always enjoyed staying in town as there is far more to do after the lifts close. The bus system in jackson is very efficient and could allow you to make your own ski schedules if some want to sleep in after a night of debauchery. One year a group of about 10 rented a house near snow king and worked out well. 

 

Def check out the mangy moose after skiing before heading back to town. It has always been one of my favorite places to grab a beer at 4pm. Cheers! 

post #10 of 29
If it's a powder day, people line up ungodly early in Jackson.

It was big cycle and I was enjoying my 5;30 cup of Joe at the Alpenhof. As I was looking out the window thinking, boy is it going to be good, the first guy got in the tram line. I thought, perhaps he's just enthusiastic. Then two more walked up and then another.😳

I figured I better suss things out. So I grabbed four cups of coffee in a carrier, my skis and walked over in my sweats. I introduced myself, explained the Hof''s breakfast didn't open till 6, I still need to get dressed, pack up and checkout. They appreciated the coffee, but warned me that showing up at 8:55 would not recommended.
I got it all together and brought out a little continental breakfast for the guys and there was a Rastafarian just getting in the tram. I skied with them till I had to leave for the airport that afternoon.
I saw the Rasta in the Airport bar and he was 7th tram.

I'd stay in the village, if fresh tracks are important.
post #11 of 29

Well, I'll chime in a little.

 

Town versus Village:  

 

Many of the condos in the Village are not "ski-in/ski-out"  You're either going to walk about 10 minutes in ski boots or wait for shuttles to the base of the lifts.  In fairness, the shuttles are pretty good but you'll want to figure out how the schedules work.  If you find a condo you like the sound of, post the name of the condo building here and I can tell you how far it ACTUALLY is from the lifts.

 

Town has more hotel/motel choices and our bus system is outstanding.  You can get to the Village almost as early as Shredhead suggests you need to on a powder day.  Town has many more choices as far as restaurants, shopping (for groceries, etc), and nightlife.  Town is fun, the Village is fun.  In a lot of ways, the choice is sixes.  If you rent a home somewhere besides town or the Village (or the Aspens), you will not be able to use the bus system very conveniently.  Driving to the Village involves pretty expensive day parking, although they used to give a discount if you had 3 or more people in the car.  I don't know if that's still the case for 2017.

 

Nightlife:

 

The Mangy Moose does often have live music in the evenings and CAN be a pretty lively place at night.  Definitely lively after skiing (I prefer The Spur after skiing).  Town has much more happening.  The Cowboy Bar is the iconic Jackson Hole bar but I have to tell you that I don't know of many locals who go there very often.  The Silver Dollar Bar at the Wort Hotel gets a lot more local traffic.  The Town Square Tavern (upstairs) is also really popular with locals.  

 

Attractions:

 

Sleigh rides on the National Elk Refuge go right through thousands of elk wintering just outside town.  The National Wildlife Art Museum - world class art and a wonderful place to visit - it's right where the elk rides start.  The Cowboy Coaster at the Snow King Resort.  This thing is a riot and I'm pretty sure they will be running it through the winter.  Speaking of Snow King, spend one night skiing "The King" under the lights.  You'll get an appreciation for where all of Jackson Hole's "big kids" grew up racing on a steep and rock-hard little mountain.  

 

Food:  

 

No particular order of preference: The Spur and Alpenhof Bistro at Teton Village.  Stiegler's at the Aspens.  Town: Blue Lion (legendary rack of lamb and great elk tenderloin), the Kitchen, Snake River Grill (expensive but very good), the Bistro, the Lift (new home of world-famous Billy Burgers), Snake River Brew Pub (great craft beers and good, moderately-priced food).  If you end up with cars, The Bird, about five miles south of town, is one of our favorites.  Good solid food, a tremendous draft beer selection, lots of games on tv, and a hilarious menu (you would have to read it, I can't explain it - I'll only suggest that you NOT go in and order anything gluten-free:rolleyes).  The Bird has become a real locals' favorite.

 

Lockers:

 

If you don't stay right at the base of the lifts at the Village, you may want to rent overnight lockers.  The only ones I know of are at the Bridger Center, the building at the base of the Bridger Gondola.  The lockers are expensive (I think they might be $20/day) but pretty large.  I have a seasonal locker there (right inside the entrance door so say "hi" to me if you come in at 8am) and I can cram four pairs of skis in but the widest skis I have there are 100mm at the waist. There's an industrial boot dryer if you can find an empty slot, otherwise leave your boots on the shelf above the lockers and they'll most likely dry overnight. If you want to rent one or more of those lockers, reserve it ahead of time.  Otherwise you might not get one.   Call 307-733-2292 and ask for Jackson Hole Sports.  They can do the reservation for you.  

 

Out for now.

post #12 of 29
Well, that makes me want to go back to JH. It's been two years.

I've stayed in town and in the villsge, and both have a lot to recommend them. Never in a big group, though. (Well, the Gathering was a large group. ..not a large lodging group. )

If you are in the village taking the bus into town and a taxi home works very well.
post #13 of 29
Since I always drive to Jackson I may have a slightly different take on this but I would always prefer the Village to town because I can always drive to town after skiing for dinner or whatever. However, I usually find myself staying in town because the premium for staying in the Village is usually too steep. Not only do people arrive early on a powder morning but they come out in droves so the Ranch Lot (free if coming with 3 or more) can take a long time to get in etc. (but only on a big powder day). It took about 45 minutes to get in the lot and shuttled to the base from the road just outside the resort on a big powder morning last January. Staying in the Village obviously helps if you are traveling with people who struggle to get going in the morning.

In the village I have stayed in the Alpenhof, Hotel Terra, the Inn and a condo--I think it was Gros Ventre. I really liked the Alpenhof and the Hotel Terra. The Alpenhof dates back to the beginning and is a well run, charming place, with a great free breakfast in the most convenient location possible but it perhaps is not going to work for a larger group.The Hotel Terra is new, modern and has some bigger one and two bedroom units but perhaps nothing quite big enough for your group. In town, I have had good experiences with the Hampton Inn, the Elk Country, and Grandview Lodge. I have a reservation at Cowboy Village in January so we will see how that works.

Bob will be your best source of information on food and nightlife. You also need to read his unofficial guides on this website. I have eaten at most of the restaurants he recommends and concur with his recommendations. I would also add McPhails as a great choice for a burger and fries and the owner loves to talk skiing. I have also enjoyed the q Roadhouse in the past but it was dissappointing the last time I was there. The environment is usually fun.
post #14 of 29
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Well, I'll chime in a little.

 

 Driving to the Village involves pretty expensive day parking, although they used to give a discount if you had 3 or more people in the car.  I don't know if that's still the case for 2017.

 

Last year parking was still free for 3 or more in the car. We had exactly 3.

 

Including that trip, I've stayed once in town, once in Teton Village in a condo that was a 3 minute walk from the Moose Creek lift, and twice in the Aspens. Of the three choices, I probably liked the Aspens the best, for a balance of all the criteria detailed above.  The Aspens does require a car, though. The condo association(s) used to sponsor a shuttle bus, but it was discontinued.

post #15 of 29

I have made several trips to Jackson Hole dating back to 1988.  I have stayed at many different locations from the village to town including The Aspens.  The condos in The Aspens are usually spacious and many have been updated.  It is a quiet, secluded, scenic area and on the last bus stop before Teton Village.  If you find a condo towards the front entrance you can walk to the bus stop, but if you are towards the back or way back in the Berry Patch you will need a car.  Check them out on VRBO.  The rates are usually very cheap in the winter.  There is a small grocery/liquor store in the front next to the bus stop which is convenient also.

 

For your first trip I would recommend staying in the village if you plan on skiing as much as possible.  The older condos there would probably work for you guys and might have decent rates.  I rented one named Whiteridge (?) a long time ago and it was on the end of the road a short walk/ski down to the bottom of the village.  It was old, but very spacious, 2 bedrooms plus a loft, had about 8 beds.  Also don't miss out on taking the Targhee Express bus trip to ski Grand Targhee for a day, it's totally worth it.

 

The town is awesome for eating and drinking and walking around.  The Snake River Brewery is probably our favorite place, especially for happy hour.  Awesome, fresh beers and decent food, it's a loud, lively, fun place.  Things have changed a lot over the years, but we liked the Gunbarrel for steaks.  Bubbas for BBQ.  The Merry Piglets for Mexican.  Pinky G's for slices of New York style pizza. The Silver Dollar Bar is a good place, and the Million Dollar Cowboy Bar is a tourist trap but worth a visit for sure.

 

I have stayed many times at places in town, but Snow King was our favorite, especially for discounted rates.  The hotel rooms are nice, they even had a few condos.  They had their own shuttle bus to the airport.  The bus stop for the village is right at the lobby entrance, but it is kind of a long ride to the village with stops.  The hot tubs were good, there's the Shady Lady bar in the downstairs.  You can night ski at Snow King, or maybe catch a Jackson Hole Moose hockey game at the ice arena (very entertaining).

If you guys stay at Snow King you are stumbling distance to the town square, we usually hiked to the brewery first for happy hour, then worked our way back. 

If your group likes to party, then you might want to stay in town.  If you want to stay in Teton Village, then you have the Mangy Moose bar, which is awesome, but after that you will have to create your own party in your condo.

 

One more thing if you are interested in other activities.  Snowmobiling trips are a highlight, which should not be missed, especially with a group of guys.  You can go on an easy guided road riding trip through a section of Yellowstone National Park - to either Old Faithful or to The Grand Canyon of Yellowstone.  Or a shorter trip to Granite Hot Springs.  Or my favorite (if you have experience riding) is Togwotee Pass - with vast, deep powder fields which will test you and your sled.  All of these trips are priceless for the scenery, wilderness experience, and getting to areas of terrain on a snowmobile where most people will never venture.  Make sure to choose a guided trip.  You all will have a blast.

 

Have fun

post #16 of 29

Stay at the village,  I stayed at the 4 seasons, amazing....    

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Stay at the village,  I stayed at the 4 seasons, amazing....    


Yes, it is.

post #18 of 29

It's funny, reading this thread makes me feel like such a dirtbag.  I usually just go on the cheap, stay at the Jackson Hole Motel6 (current reservations at $39/night), drive to the Stilson lot to catch the free shuttle, and ski from opening to closing.  But I'm there just for the skiing and not the apres scene.

post #19 of 29
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It's funny, reading this thread makes me feel like such a dirtbag.  I usually just go on the cheap, stay at the Jackson Hole Motel6 (current reservations at $39/night), drive to the Stilson lot to catch the free shuttle, and ski from opening to closing.  But I'm there just for the skiing and not the apres scene.


That's one of the great things about Jackson Hole...

 

Someone like you can have a fantastic time hanging at the the Motel 6 and someone like pdiddy can have a fantastic time staying at the Four Seasons.  

 

Gotta love it.

post #20 of 29

^^^^^ that's right.  The main reason to make a first trip to Jackson Hole should be for the skiing.  There is no other place like it.  My first trip was during my senior year of high school and I stayed at The Hostel for 7 nights with my best friend.  We skied 5 days at the resort and one day at Grand Targhee.  We had a blast.

post #21 of 29

If you do rent cars Grand Targhee is worth a day trip.

 

We also liked Snake River Brewing for food and beer and the Silver Dollar bar at the Wort Hotel for dinner and dancing.

post #22 of 29

Agree with most points made in the thread.  I'll add a couple to consider.

I get over to Jackson at least 2-3 times per year, (drive from SW Idaho).  I've stayed at JH, in Jackson and crashed at relatives in Wilson. 

 

IF you want to maximize skiing, AND you are OK with the premium, I'd pay for the JH Condo, or just get some rooms at the Inn at Jackson Hole.  If you go thru JH Lodging, they almost always offer packages they include ski passes.

 

One other argument for slope side is "the herding cats" problem.  If you all are different abilities, have different sleep habits, different lunch/break desires, different stamina levels; All of these things matter much less and cause less friction if you are slope side.  You can pair up or even head out on your own and kind of "do your own thing".

post #23 of 29

I've done both the Village and town a couple of times.  I agree with almost everyone's comments and perspective.  You definitely are able to get much further up the line on big POW day if you stay in the village.  However, the village is really boring after dinner-time.  I'm not a huge partier on a ski-vacation but I like to be able to have a few cocktails, relax with friends and watch some sports while recharging for the next day.  There's just so much more to do in town and its nice to have a short walk back to your bed when you're tired.  You can still rally and get up early to get over to the mtn and into position to still get plenty of fresh tracks.  I also don't sweat the powder rat-race as much anymore b/c its not worth the stress to me on my vacations and I've never felt like I missed out at JHMR when the snow was good.  If you absolutely MUST have first tracks or close to it then you better pay the premium for Village.  If you like the other parts of a ski vacation then town is your best bet. 

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I've done both the Village and town a couple of times.  I agree with almost everyone's comments and perspective.  You definitely are able to get much further up the line on big POW day if you stay in the village.  However, the village is really boring after dinner-time.  I'm not a huge partier on a ski-vacation but I like to be able to have a few cocktails, relax with friends and watch some sports while recharging for the next day.  There's just so much more to do in town and its nice to have a short walk back to your bed when you're tired.  You can still rally and get up early to get over to the mtn and into position to still get plenty of fresh tracks.  I also don't sweat the powder rat-race as much anymore b/c its not worth the stress to me on my vacations and I've never felt like I missed out at JHMR when the snow was good.  If you absolutely MUST have first tracks or close to it then you better pay the premium for Village.  If you like the other parts of a ski vacation then town is your best bet. 


I will mention, at the risk of catcalls and boos, that for someone with the means there is a way to ensure untracked snow on a powder day AND at least a relatively sane arrival time at the mountain...

 

You can do the early-tram or early-gondola private lesson or backcountry guide program.  http://www.jacksonhole.com/private-lessons.html   or   http://www.jacksonhole.com/backcountry.html

 

You pay for it, but your group and your guide/instructor get to go up either the tram or the gondola before the public so that you start skiing when the ski patrol opens the mountain post avalanche control rather than starting to ride up the lifts (depending on where you ended up in the public line).  You can get a few or several runs (depending on your frenzy level and skill level) of untracked snow before the masses down below arrive to saturate the powder.

 

You have to be suited and booted and ready to ride the tram by 8:20am or the gondola by 8:30am, but you WILL get to the snow before the remainder of the crowd gets there.

 

Cast aspersions if you will :rolleyes, but lots of other mountains offer some version of the same thing.

 

Just sayin'.  

post #25 of 29

I did the guide the day before with Ned and Juni. 

 

It was a great experience and I would highly recommend a guide to anyone that really wants to get the most out of a big hill like Jackson.

post #26 of 29

Let the powder season commence.  

 


October 4, 2016 at about 2pm.

 

Whoo hoo!  For tomorrow we ski!

post #27 of 29

So gorgeous!  Thanks for the picture, Bob.  Those are good options and I may do one of those this year.  Good points. 

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(Hope you don't mind me using your pic @Bob Peters!)

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(Hope you don't mind me using your pic @Bob Peters!)

 

Don't mind at all.  It was very appropriate!

 

Here are a couple of photos from up on Teton Pass today.

 

This is a LOT of snow for this early in the season...

 

 

 

Cooper the dog enjoying his first powder of the season:

 

DOGGY FACE SHOT!

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