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Wobbly boot on flat surface. Replace sole plates or seek out boot-planing services?

post #1 of 7
Thread Starter 

So I was getting my gorgeous new Brahmas mounted when the tech noticed my boots were quite wobbly if you just touch them while they are on a flat surface and that would completely mess with the canting (nice catch boot man). He pointed me to a shop which is 2.5 hours away that has a boot planing service that would do a good job. However 2 trips that far seems like an awful lot of time, where to me as a layman wouldn't replacing the sole-plates have the same effect?

 

 

 

For reference my boots are 2014 Technica Daemon 110's.

post #2 of 7

first thing i would suggest is to replace the sole pads (i am assuming they are quite worn)  being a boot with replaceable soles IMO it should not be going anywhere near a boot planer, i know there are some guys out there who will plane that type of boot but call me old fashioned it wasn't meant to be done so i wouldn't be doing it 

 

the other thing that could have happened is the boot shell has become a little warped with heat... has the boot been punched anywhere? often an aggressive forefoot stretch if not done correctly can cause some twist, if this is the case after you have replaced the sole pads i would have a good tech heat the shell and clamp it down to a flat surface while it cools.... it may need quite a bit of heat to do this and the surface it is secured to must be hard and flat (steel or granite tend to work well!)

 

hope that helps

 

good luck 

post #3 of 7
Thread Starter 

Darn, I'm strongly suspecting the latter because the boot that I had punched out extra was the one that wobbled the most.

post #4 of 7

I would like to point out one thought about boots that have become warped when they were not originally.

 

First,  the boot will be flat when in a binding and having a few Kg of pressure applied.

 

More importantly, if you have them planed flat,  the material thickness of the sole will now have a wedge planed in  to the shell floor under the zeppa and even more to the point the wedge in front of the sole cut-out will have the opposite wedge to that of the rear. When the sole warps it does not change wall thickness but merely twists.  You will not readily be able to measure this "mini" cant either and it will be different for the start and end of the turn.depending where the weight is applied.

post #5 of 7
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Hmmm the boot tech said "If you were a racer you wouldn't make it out of the gate with this" but I didn't think it was THAT bad when I was on the snow. However challenging terrain wasn't really open all season, and I can remember ending up being confused about sliding out when I was laying the skis over at least once or twice last season (could have been my edges just weren't up to the task though)

post #6 of 7
Thread Starter 

Update: Sought out a second opinion from the bootfitters I initially bought the boots from. They said it's likely unsafe. Damn, only had the things for two seasons, and now I have to buy new ones =/. Anyways I was less than thrilled with how they fit before. Going back to the bootfitter, but anyone want to give me some advice on boots to look into for someone with a wide forefoot, low arch, and narrow heel? Bootfitter went to look back at the newest iteration of the tecnica's (Mach 1 120) but I wasn't very keen on how my last tecnica's fit even after punching and grinding. I still had a burning outside edge of the foot and painful big toenails. Although the painful big toenails may have been due to extra sensitivity from ingrown toenails. Just looking for some ideas to guide bootfitter in the right direction.

post #7 of 7

I"m not going to disagree with the bootfitters you've been talking with but I do prefer Sandy's measured approach for certain.  If rocking boots are unsafe, I'll venture many people skiing are in unsafe equipment, and I don't really think they are.

 

If you want to find out if your equipment is unsafe or not find a shop with a binding tester and have your boot and binding combination tested.  I'll bet results will be fine assuming you have a binding in good shape.

 

As far as a racer not making it out of the gates, I'm with Sandy on that.

 

Now all that said it would be nice if everything was flat.  Follow CEMs advice and maybe you'll get there.

 

If don't have your bindings tested.  If they function properly you can base your decision on facts instead of scare.

 

Lou

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