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post #61 of 81

Jay Peak in VT has a big indoor waterpark.  There is no town there.  But the waterpark will be

FULL of fun... and humanity.  It's a haul from Boston, but a beautiful drive.  Here you go:

 

Bretton Woods is flat, as in .... FLAT.  It's groomers are very very easy to ski.  Its glades

come in different flavors.  There are very very easy glades, medium glades, genuinely tight

trees, and even a few goat paths with a luge line down the windy middle.  But all the glades

are short.  Because the whole place is flat.  Nice hotel across the street.  Here's the lobby:

 

Here's the view of Mt. Washington Hotel:

 

Or if that kind of elegance does not tickle your fancy, you could stay at the Appalacian 

Mountain Club's Crawford Notch Lodge, which is also near Bretton Woods, on the same

road as this antique monster.  Here it is:

 

North Conway, to the east of Bretton Woods, is a classic New England ski town.  

There are shops, motels, inns, restaurants, bars, and all kinds of things to do there. 

There are numerous places to ski within driving distance, thus the local color.  

North Conway's Red Jacket Inn has an indoor water park:

 

You could stay there and ski WildCat.  Wildcat would give you a flavor of old New England,

with narrow twisty-windy trails.  Skiing WildCat with the family and staying in North Conway

would give you a real New England experience.  You could go across the street from

Wildcat and eat supper family style at the Appalacian Mountain Club's lodge.  They serve

a meal there 365 days a year.  Winter Hikers will be your table mates.  They will have

great stories to tell.  Here's Wildcat's base lodge.

 

Here's dinner in the the AMC lodge across the street from Wildcat:

 

Hey, if you really want to make it a unique experience, you could put the family up at the Joe

Dodge Lodge, part of the AMC complex.   People who do winter climbing and hiking are a

fun bunch.  You'd be with them, at affordable rates.

 

Here's what some of those winter hikers will have just gone up to (Tuckerman Ravine):


Which, by the way, you can see from the summit of WildCat:

 

 

 

OK, I'm on a roll.  In Jackon, NH, there's plenty of local New England color.  You'll get to 

drive through this:

 

And you can stay here in Jackson, the Eagle Mountain House:

 

I guess my point is that if you are coming to NE to ski, don't try to match your experiences

on the mountains out west.  It's ain't gonna happen.  Enjoy what we have to offer, and

do your best to avoid the awful crowds by going to out-of-the-way colorful places.  And thanks

for giving me this excuse to get my head back into winter.

 


Edited by LiquidFeet - 9/22/16 at 6:09pm
post #62 of 81

He's right, don't go unless you want some mellow woods that your 5 year old can ski and you don't mind short glades and drops.

post #63 of 81
@aerojack

If your looking for an extra quick trip east I would recommend snowshoe. They have plenty of ski in and out lodging and 3 separate ski areas connected by a bus. Lodging is easy and plenty of restaurants and shops. Night skiing at silver creek area and plenty of vertical. Snowshoe basin is about 800 foot vertical with some fun blue and black runs. Western Territory has 1500 foot vertical with two runs that are never busy. Typically I get up for rope drop and ski snowshoe until it gets crowded and the just hit western territory. You can rack a lot of vertical. Lower shays is a nice steep section on western territory that half is groomed other half bumped up. Typically they get a lot of snow mid February through mid march. I would recommend staying at silver creek as it is more family friendly and quieter at night. I believe it's only a 6 hour drive depending on road conditions. It takes me about 7 from Cincinnati.
post #64 of 81

I've still got my mind on NH in the winter.  

Driving in NH during a storm is not so bad.  The state does a very good job

of keeping its winter highways clear.  This pic is not from NH, but it's what they do

very well, better than MA even.  I drove a soccer van safely in NH storms for years.

I did have snow tires on it, though.

post #65 of 81
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the detailed response and awesome pics.

 

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Originally Posted by LiquidFeet View Post

 

I guess my point is that if you are coming to NE to ski, don't try to match your experiences

on the mountains out west.  It's ain't gonna happen.  Enjoy what we have to offer, and

do your best to avoid the awful crowds by going to out-of-the-way colorful places.  And thanks

for giving me this excuse to get my head back into winter.

 

 

Absolutely!  Not looking to match our experiences out west, rather looking for a worthwhile ski experience in general.  See a part of the country we've never been, on a big enough hill to justify a little extra money and travel time.  Just don't want my kids or wife to get mowed down by some a-hole is all.  

 

I did go ahead and reserve the SW flights.  It is part of a fare sale that ends today, and we could have flown round trip for 4 for a total of $600, but had just enough points to do it for free.  The nice thing is that booking with points is fully refundable.  So we have a little time to sort this out.

post #66 of 81
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Originally Posted by ohioskier View Post

@aerojack

If your looking for an extra quick trip east I would recommend snowshoe. They have plenty of ski in and out lodging and 3 separate ski areas connected by a bus. Lodging is easy and plenty of restaurants and shops. Night skiing at silver creek area and plenty of vertical. Snowshoe basin is about 800 foot vertical with some fun blue and black runs. Western Territory has 1500 foot vertical with two runs that are never busy. Typically I get up for rope drop and ski snowshoe until it gets crowded and the just hit western territory. You can rack a lot of vertical. Lower shays is a nice steep section on western territory that half is groomed other half bumped up. Typically they get a lot of snow mid February through mid march. I would recommend staying at silver creek as it is more family friendly and quieter at night. I believe it's only a 6 hour drive depending on road conditions. It takes me about 7 from Cincinnati.

 

Thanks!  Lots of positive vibes on SS.  I didn't include this in my previous message, but the in-laws will probably join and they are coming from the Detroit area.  It's a bit of a haul for them, so that has factored somewhat into where we would drive.  They're retired though, so they could just add a day on either side and drive with us.  Heard a lot of good things about Timberline as well, what do you think of that area?

post #67 of 81
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Originally Posted by LiquidFeet View Post

I've still got my mind on NH in the winter.  
Driving in NH during a storm is not so bad.  The state does a very good job
of keeping its winter highways clear.  This pic is not from NH, but it's what they do
very well, better than MA even.  I drove a soccer van safely in NH storms for years.
I did have snow tires on it, though.


This kind of thing is NOT true of Vermont during a storm, and it's a matter of policy. VTrans has a "safe roads at safe speeds" winter storm maintenance policy, not a bare roads policy. That means if you're driving in Vermont during a storm, there will absolutely be snow on the roadways. Plows run, but just enough to keep the roads passable. You had best know what you're doing, and be ready to drive as the road dictates. And be prepared to be blown past by locals who are very used to the roads and conditions. Some of whom are highly overconfident in their abilities, others of which could genuinely compete in snowcross racing events.
post #68 of 81
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Originally Posted by aerojack View Post
 
Thanks!  Lots of positive vibes on SS.  I didn't include this in my previous message, but the in-laws will probably join and they are coming from the Detroit area.  It's a bit of a haul for them, so that has factored somewhat into where we would drive.  They're retired though, so they could just add a day on either side and drive with us.  Heard a lot of good things about Timberline as well, what do you think of that area?

There are plenty of pics of Timberline from this trip report from the 2014 Mid-Atlantic Gathering.

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/126236/mid-atlantic-gathering-2014-timberline-wv

 

Note that Canaan Valley is 15 min away from T-line.  Lodging choices include slope side houses at T-line or the relatively new CV Lodge.  I've stayed at CV Lodge and it's pretty nice.  CV is in a WV state park.

post #69 of 81
Thread Starter 

So trying to scope out GoPro videos of NE ski resorts around holiday weekends, and I came across this one from last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LDcWzcdCRs 

 

Doesn't look crowded at all and the snow looks perfectly fine!  Is this one of those things were all the locals try to make it sound really bad so no one comes and ruins their awesome secret getaways?! ;) 

post #70 of 81

Well people stayed away in droves last season.  I would imagine, and the resorts are certainly hoping, that will not be the case this coming season.

post #71 of 81

Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.

post #72 of 81
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Originally Posted by freeski919 View Post


This kind of thing is NOT true of Vermont during a storm, and it's a matter of policy. VTrans has a "safe roads at safe speeds" winter storm maintenance policy, not a bare roads policy. That means if you're driving in Vermont during a storm, there will absolutely be snow on the roadways. Plows run, but just enough to keep the roads passable. You had best know what you're doing, and be ready to drive as the road dictates. And be prepared to be blown past by locals who are very used to the roads and conditions. Some of whom are highly overconfident in their abilities, others of which could genuinely compete in snowcross racing events.

 

I have driven up 89 and 91 in more than one storm where I was thankful and happy to follow along behind a slow moving snowplow!  Seen plenty of cars, trucks and SUVs off the side of the road.  It can be a nightmare driving to ski country in a big storm... one with a very happy ending!


Edited by crank - 9/23/16 at 2:36pm
post #73 of 81
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Originally Posted by aerojack View Post
 

So trying to scope out GoPro videos of NE ski resorts around holiday weekends, and I came across this one from last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LDcWzcdCRs 

 

Doesn't look crowded at all and the snow looks perfectly fine!  Is this one of those things were all the locals try to make it sound really bad so no one comes and ruins their awesome secret getaways?! ;) 

i Think that day the windchill was 20 to 40 below if i remember correctly. The kids might not be so keen on that. The extra cost to get to denver might be offset with cheaper lodging and lift tickets, and exponentially better skiing. 

post #74 of 81

That Sunday was the coldest day of the year, even in Massachusetts the school groups were canceled.  I never miss a ski day due to weather, I didn't ski that day.

post #75 of 81
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Originally Posted by powderpanda View Post
 

i Think that day the windchill was 20 to 40 below if i remember correctly. The kids might not be so keen on that. The extra cost to get to denver might be offset with cheaper lodging and lift tickets, and exponentially better skiing. 

 

I've seen this brought up a couple of times, and I must be missing something.  The airfare to Denver would be $2000 for a family of 4 compared to practically free to NE ($40 in govt fees) - we don't have enough points for even a one way ticket for free going west.  Comparing lodging in NE for what we usually pay out west is a wash.  And lift tickets out west are around ~$100/day.  The flight alone to Denver may be as much as it would cost us to go to NE for the weekend...and that doesn't account for the 2 hour time change that wrecks the kids.  I love Denver.  I'd ski there everyday if I could.  Unfortunately I'm maxed out this season with two trips, and the skiing in central Ohio is very lacking.

post #76 of 81
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I've seen this brought up a couple of times, and I must be missing something.  The airfare to Denver would be $2000 for a family of 4 compared to practically free to NE ($40 in govt fees) - we don't have enough points for even a one way ticket for free going west.  Comparing lodging in NE for what we usually pay out west is a wash.  And lift tickets out west are around ~$100/day.  The flight alone to Denver may be as much as it would cost us to go to NE for the weekend...and that doesn't account for the 2 hour time change that wrecks the kids.  I love Denver.  I'd ski there everyday if I could.  Unfortunately I'm maxed out this season with two trips, and the skiing in central Ohio is very lacking.


Can't recall if your relatives will be watching the kids or not but if you do have care for them I would suggest going to N. Conway and renting some alpine touring gear from Eastern Mountain Sports. If conditions are good there are some mellow tours in the area where you can get a real New England feel without the crowds. For instance you can skin up Mt. Washington to Hojo's, take a look at the famous Tuckerman Ravine and ski down the Sherburne.

The Presidential Range of the White Mountains is an awesome part of the NE landscape and as others have mentioned, N. Conway is a nice town to spend some time in. Backcountry or resort, that's where I would go because of the multitude of options in the area.
post #77 of 81

With your flights into Boston, you have LOTS of options.  Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine.  I'm partial to Central and Northern Vermont, but fully understand the arguments for the other locations.  Get a copy of the current (Oct 16) issue of Ski Magazine and read the section on the eastern resorts.  Good overview of the pluses and minuses of each.

post #78 of 81
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Originally Posted by aerojack View Post
 

So trying to scope out GoPro videos of NE ski resorts around holiday weekends, and I came across this one from last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LDcWzcdCRs 

 

Doesn't look crowded at all and the snow looks perfectly fine!  Is this one of those things were all the locals try to make it sound really bad so no one comes and ruins their awesome secret getaways?! ;) 

 

I am a season passholder at Sugarbush and as others have already said it was COLD that weekend which kept a lot of people off the slopes.   If you do choose Sugarbush you will find the lines aren't too bad as the mountain has a lot of uphill capacity and multiple quad chairs at the base of Lincoln Peak.  Your best bet is to ski Mt Ellen on Saturday and Lincoln Peak on Sunday to avoid crowds.   

post #79 of 81
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Originally Posted by WWF-VT View Post

I am a season passholder at Sugarbush and as others have already said it was COLD that weekend which kept a lot of people off the slopes.   If you do choose Sugarbush you will find the lines aren't too bad as the mountain has a lot of uphill capacity and multiple quad chairs at the base of Lincoln Peak.  Your best bet is to ski Mt Ellen on Saturday and Lincoln Peak on Sunday to avoid crowds.   

Thanks for the suggestion. My biggest concern is how crowded the slopes are. Any comments there?
post #80 of 81
Thread Starter 

Really appreciate everyone's help on this.  I just put a deposit down at Burke Mountain Lodge.  Thank you @freeski919 for the recommendation, we love off the beaten path type places.  They have a ski and stay package that puts us at $1225 for lodging and lift tickets for 3 nights (after splitting a 2 bedroom suite with the in-laws).  So with a direct flight to Boston at $44 w/ points, and the rental car at $170 (again split), we are looking at a 3 day weekend of skiing in Vermont for a family of 4 @ ~$1500.

 

With 3 ski trips booked, my obsession will have to shift to watching every little sign for a positive snow forecast and looking for as much intel on Burke as I can get.

post #81 of 81

Good Call.  I think you will enjoy Burke.  Don't forget about the waterpark at Nearby Jay too. 

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