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[Ski Recommendations] Salomon 8.0ti / Q85 / Q90

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 

Hi guys,

 

Spent a lot of time trawling the forums but haven't been able to come to a decision on skis yet. Would really appreciate it if some of you would chirp in with your 2c; this is my first ski purchase.

 

Level: Intermediate, around 10 days skiing, starting to carve.

Location: Baker and Whistler this year. After that primarily Aus/NZ with some trips to Japan/US west coast.

Terrain: First and foremost I want to get good at front side carving. In saying that it would be nice to have something I could experiment with off piste. I think I'd be a 90/10 kind of guy.

Height / weight: 5"10' / 158 Lbs.

Boots: Planning on buying Salomon X-pro 100's.

 

I'd like to find something that will push me and allow me to work up to advanced without compromising too much of the initial learning. I'm a pretty aggressive skier and happy to tackle fairly steep learning curve. The only reason I've limited myself to the Salomon's is that it was easier to research a smaller group of ski's than have no direction.

 

8.0ti:

+ Sounds like a great front side ski; 80 I'm guessing is kind of right for the icy stuff in Aus/NZ; real carver.

- Worried that the stiffness might be too much for my level; maybe not the best in softer snow; no off-piste.

 

Q85:

+ Still fairly narrow underfoot

- Doesn't have great reviews; maybe doesn't stack up to the 90

 

Q90

+ All rounder; can hit the soft stuff as well as ice?; can start to explore off-piste a little; still holds an edge.

- Worried that it won't give me the front side learning curve I'm looking for.

 

Thanks for reading. Appreciate your time / advice.

post #2 of 14

The wider you go the more you loose ice holding capabilities. I would shoot for 70-80mm with. 

Why those boots?

post #3 of 14

Why only Salomon? There are many others...just sayin'

post #4 of 14
Thread Starter 
Quote:
 I would shoot for 70-80mm with.

So you'd be thinking the X-Drive over the Q?

 

Quote:
 Why those boots?

Good reviews; 100 seemed about right for where I want to go right now; mouldable liner; and they felt pretty darn comfortable when I tried them on.

 

Quote:
 Why only Salomon? There are many others...just sayin'

I know. I've used Salomon gear while trail running and have always been a fan. I'm not saying I'm locked into buying their ski's but it seemed like a good starting point. The reviews for the X-drive and Q-series seem pretty promising.

post #5 of 14
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Originally Posted by Helix View Post

 

Good reviews; 100 seemed about right for where I want to go right now; mouldable liner; and they felt pretty darn comfortable when I tried them on.

 

 

 

Red flag. Not good.  

post #6 of 14
I'm no expert on skis and equipment but I'll give you my stats

5'8" 150 upper intermediate.
I ski
1. Blizzard Magnum 8.0 (80) 172
2. Blizzard Bushwacker (88) 173

Boots: Rossi ?? 120

My 2c.
Skis 80-85. Size 170-176. I prefer not too stiff a ski. Boots 100-120 flex is probably about right.
post #7 of 14
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Originally Posted by KingGrump View Post
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Helix View Post

 

Good reviews; 100 seemed about right for where I want to go right now; mouldable liner; and they felt pretty darn comfortable when I tried them on.

 

 

 

Red flag. Not good.  

Go to the top of the page and read the two stickies or forum notes on skis and boots. 

If your goal is to have fun and ski a little look not further in this post. 

If your goal is to become a very good skier you will need to read the forum notes and especially the one on boots. You will need to find a very good boot fitter. You can post on here and ask for recommendations near where you live. A good boot fit will probably feel a little to tight. The flex is critical and it takes a trained boot fitter to tell the right flex as in the warm shop will be very different then when the boot is cold. This is the most critical part of becoming a good skier. If money is limited better the get the right boot fit and rent until you have more money.

post #8 of 14
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Originally Posted by Helix View Post
 

Hi guys,

 

Spent a lot of time trawling the forums but haven't been able to come to a decision on skis yet. Would really appreciate it if some of you would chirp in with your 2c; this is my first ski purchase.

 

Level: Intermediate, around 10 days skiing, starting to carve.

Location: Baker and Whistler this year. After that primarily Aus/NZ with some trips to Japan/US west coast.

Terrain: First and foremost I want to get good at front side carving. In saying that it would be nice to have something I could experiment with off piste. I think I'd be a 90/10 kind of guy.

Height / weight: 5"10' / 158 Lbs.

Boots: Planning on buying Salomon X-pro 100's.

 

[snip]

 

 

Welcome to EpicSki!  What levy is suggesting looks like this in Desktop Mode:

 

 

Here is the article that's useful to read before you buy the first pair of boots.

http://www.epicski.com/a/ski-boots-the-most-important-piece-of-gear-you-will-own

 

Are you living in ski country at the moment?

post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 

Thanks guys.

 

Levy1 / KingGrump: I've had a look at both those stickies as well as a lot of generic advice here, at skis.com, in the Australian forums and at snow magazine. When I say the boots are comfortable, they are definitely tight, just no hot spots. The boots were shown to me by evo, I plan to check out Sturtevants as well as they seem to be pretty well regarded by members of this forum. There is one other pure boot fitter recommended in Seattle but I don't think I'm quite at the stage of skiing to get the benefit out of that level of service.

 

What I really can't work out is what the cross over is between the Salamon Q-series and the X-drive. Obviously the Q is more of an all mountain and the X-drive is 'front-side all mountain' but will I still be able to learn to carve effectively on the Q? and will the X-drive handle soft snow and a little bit of powder? These are going to be my one set of skis and I'm really hoping they'll set me up for success over the next few years of skiing.

 

I've spent an embarrassing amount of time researching / agonising over the decision and at a certain point I will just have to decide; I was just hoping I might be able to get a few points of view from here before I do.

 

Thanks again, this is a great forum and I can't wait till November to hit the slopes!

 

Helix.

post #10 of 14
Thread Starter 

Thanks marznc. I'm in Seattle.

post #11 of 14
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Originally Posted by Helix View Post
 

Thanks marznc. I'm in Seattle.


In the midst of researching skis, did you notice that the ongoing thread for the PacNW was started today?

 

The EpicSki Gathering is at Whistler March 5-11.  There are a least a couple of intermediates who are attending.  Note that a Gathering is not like a ski club trip.  People come and go as best fits in their schedule.

post #12 of 14
Thread Starter 

marznc,

 

I hadn't noticed the Pnw thread, I'll check that out now. Whistler gathering sounds awesome, will definitely look into it!

 

lott42:

Quote:
 Skis 80-85. Size 170-176. I prefer not too stiff a ski. Boots 100-120 flex is probably about right.

Thanks, appreciate it.

post #13 of 14
Thread Starter 

I'm now looking at the 2017 Ross Experience 84 HD's as well; concerned it may be a little above where I'm at though so might drop down to the 80's. 

post #14 of 14
FWIW you could check out Proski in Seattle (Green Lake area on Aurora), they have some decent prices on last year's stock. Also Alpine Hut in the Interbay area.

For a 90/10 or 80/20 frontside ski, the Salomon X-Drives are very good, among my favorites in that category. The XDrive 8.8 was a superb bump and crud ski for my tastes, excellent off-piste in that width. The Q's are really more playful soft snow skis, not as good grip on hard pack and not as much energy through a turn.
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