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I was in Stowe over the holiday weekend and noticed that Skiershop was gone. I know that Whiteroom--who was/maybe still is an influential poster here---worked there. I guess that Skiershop was a casualty of last year's bad season. Interestingly--Stowe really has only two alpine ski shops that I can know of; AJ's and Pinnacle. Not that I don't think those are good/great shops--but I think a ski region as big as Stowe should have be able to support at least twice that many alpine shops...I guess this is a some kind of a commentary on state of ski business/economy in the area. David

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Sad to see the shops go-so much knowledge and a good employment avenue for those in the industry.

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I was in Stowe over the holiday weekend and noticed that Skiershop was gone. I know that Whiteroom--who was/maybe still is an influential poster here---worked there. I guess that Skiershop was a casualty of last year's bad season. Interestingly--Stowe really has only two alpine ski shops that I can know of; AJ's and Pinnacle. Not that I don't think those are good/great shops--but I think a ski region as big as Stowe should have be able to support at least twice that many alpine shops...I guess this is a some kind of a commentary on state of ski business/economy in the area. David

Skiershop was never opened last season. They weren't a victim of the season or the state of the industry. They were a victim of gross mismanagement. They had an unfortunate habit of not paying their bills to their suppliers. The end came last fall, when Kastle got a court order that allowed them to go into Skiershop and seize their stock up to the value of the outstanding balance. Thing was, the court order wasn't limited to Kastle gear. They went in there and took a huge chunk of stock from all brands. Most of which Skiershop hadn't yet paid for either. Skiershop wasn't a victim, they caused their own demise.
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It's the nature of a business to go out of business. Most businesses eventually die...usually due to mismanagement.
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Edited by Maineac - 9/8/16 at 4:00pm
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I agree with the OP that I would think there would be enough business up there to sustain more than AJs and Pinnacle + the small race/tuning shops (from a ski gear standpoint). Maybe it doesn't have the folks shopping up there that are actually purchasing enough gear to sustain shops.  But at one point in the not too distant past there were 4 shops operating.

 

On line retailers have definitely changed the shopping landscape too.  

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Skiershop was never opened last season. They weren't a victim of the season or the state of the industry. They were a victim of gross mismanagement. They had an unfortunate habit of not paying their bills to their suppliers. The end came last fall, when Kastle got a court order that allowed them to go into Skiershop and seize their stock up to the value of the outstanding balance. Thing was, the court order wasn't limited to Kastle gear. They went in there and took a huge chunk of stock from all brands. Most of which Skiershop hadn't yet paid for either. Skiershop wasn't a victim, they caused their own demise.


wow freeski919...Thats a little harsh, and without the retailer out here to defend himself. It also is a speculative account with a few impossibilities, like if the retailer owed the industry money, there would not be any new product delivered in the fall. Which means that there is no product of current years value in the shop to seize. You are welcome to have your opinion, however when it is based on rumour and innuendo, and highly speculative it might be better to say nothing at all, or just say they failed because of mismanagement and skip the trumped up inaccurate details, IMHO...

 

jim

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I don't know anything about Skier Shop closing, but two ski shops sounds about right. Stowe gets around 300,000 visitors from what I have read. That is one shop for every 150k visits.

Maybe one every 100k might be the better average, but last year would not have been the time to open a new location.

Okemo at around 600k would support four shops in Ludlow, which sounds about right from what I have seen. Killington at 5-6 shops on the access road also fits.
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wow freeski919...Thats a little harsh, and without the retailer out here to defend himself. It also is a speculative account with a few impossibilities, like if the retailer owed the industry money, there would not be any new product delivered in the fall. Which means that there is no product of current years value in the shop to seize. You are welcome to have your opinion, however when it is based on rumour and innuendo, and highly speculative it might be better to say nothing at all, or just say they failed because of mismanagement and skip the trumped up inaccurate details, IMHO...

jim

If you have facts that contradict the account, please present them.

Note how I said they never opened, and their stock was seized in the fall. I never said it was that year's stock. I daresay you have no idea who my sources are, and can therefore not deem my account speculative.
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wow freeski919...Thats a little harsh, and without the retailer out here to defend himself. It also is a speculative account with a few impossibilities, like if the retailer owed the industry money, there would not be any new product delivered in the fall. Which means that there is no product of current years value in the shop to seize. You are welcome to have your opinion, however when it is based on rumour and innuendo, and highly speculative it might be better to say nothing at all, or just say they failed because of mismanagement and skip the trumped up inaccurate details, IMHO...

 

jim

I have heard multiple accounts from multiple sources and they line up with what Freeski outlined.  I got a version directly from the owner (or a person claiming to be) that was a bit different during a random conversation at a bar.That account skipped the nonpayment and focused on supplier issues, he also said they were focusing on their on line business.  Bottom line is that the things that he said, and DIDN'T say reinforced the stories that I had heard from others (given the filter that this was his side of the story with a vested interest in presenting an image as a business that was just shifting focus), including former employees, which were basically the account that Freeski provided.

 

That said I was very sad to hear that the shop had closed.  I never like to hear about a ski shop closing.  It was my favorite ski shop in Stowe.

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