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Seeking advice for two ski quiver addition

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 

Hey guys,

I'm hoping for some advice on skis. A little about me:

 

- 52 years old, advanced, not quite expert skier. Been skiing for 35 years.

- Used to pound bumps all day, every day when I was younger. Now I find myself enjoying high speed carving much more, with a few bump runs interspersed throughout the day.  

- Ski 10-15 days per season, mostly at Northstar, Tahoe. Favorite runs are off Backside Express lift.

- 5' 10" tall, 165 pounds.

- Final consideration is I consider myself more of a finesse skier. I don't have the energy/stamina to charge 100% all the time.

 

I'm a two ski quiver kind of guy. My current skis are:

- PM Gear Bro Model (179cm), which are for powder days. I'm set there. (I know, not very wide by today's standards, but they were when I bought them!)

- Fischer RX8 (165cm) for non-powder days (which in Tahoe has been most days the past few seasons). I love carving groomers on these!

 

The Fischers started to de-laminate last season, so it's time for a replacement. I'm primarily looking for a very good carver, with a little bumps and ability to cut through crud. Call it 60/40 groomed/ungroomed. Flotation is not a priority. I think I'm looking for either a slightly wide carver or front side all mountain. 

 

I've read great things about the Brahma. Will these hold an edge and carve as well as my old RX8s? Or should I look for a narrower waist still? 

 

As for length, I'm torn between 173 and 180. I know the 180 will be more stable at high speed, which I'd like. But I'm thinking at my weight, the 173 might be a bit easier to flex, have slightly tighter turn radius and be more maneuverable in bumps? If I'm a 'tweener', I'd probably opt for going shorter.

 

Any other ski recommendations would be greatly appreciated as well, keeping in mind that carving ability is my most important criteria.

 

Thanks in advance!

post #2 of 10

I'm no expert, but I believe there are better skis than the Brahma if carving ability is your top priority.  What about something like Volkl RTM 81 or RTM 84 ?  They fit your "slightly wide carver or front side all mountain" criteria pretty well and have good reviews.  I've only skied the previous model of RTM84 which I thought was just OK, but apparently the new ones are a significant improvement.

 

Btw, I think your post somehow escaped people's attention first time around.  Hopefully this gives it a bump and you get more responses.

post #3 of 10

Best replacement for your RX8 is Fischer WC SC.  It's like an RX8 on steroids.  It does require more speed to bend into a tight turn and is a little stiff for bumps, but quite manageable in a 165 cm length. 

It will blast through heavy crud as long as it's not too deep.  Deep heavy crud will have the ski dialing up more turn than the platform will hold and you will be challenged by unintentional sideways skiing in deep snow (so would the RX8 in those conditions if you try and push it to the limit), but you have the PM Gear Bro for that.

post #4 of 10

I have the Brahmas and they have been a great fit for me as my daily driver.  I skied a Progressor 9 for a day or two a while back (8-10 years probably), so I don't know how similar that would be to the RX8s you're skiing.  It was a great frontside carving ski and very quick edge to edge.  I would actually like to get something like that for groomer days.

 

How wide were your RX8s?

 

If you are just skiing bumps and groomers with them, I would go with something narrower than the Brahmas.  The Brahmas carve quite well, are quite stable at speed and surprisingly maneuverable.  But if I were looking for a ski for groomers and bumps I would go narrower and more carving focused.  I would also go with more of a full camber ski, the rocker can behave a bit odd in the bumps depending on how you like to ski them (I like a more solid tail).

post #5 of 10
Thread Starter 

Thanks guys for the recommendations. 

 

peterm, ya, I the RTM 84 are ones on my list to demo. And thanks for the bump!

 

Ghost, I'm leaning more towards more all-around. I know the WC is supposed to be a great ski, but I'm not looking for anything stiffer than my RX8.

 

hrspear, thanks. The RX8 are pretty narrow at the waist. I don't recall the exact dimensions but probably in the 60s. I think they were detuned racing skis. People I talk with at Tahoe are trying to convince me that skis with waists is the 80s are the best all-around ski.  

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Best replacement for your RX8 is Fischer WC SC.  It's like an RX8 on steroids.  It does require more speed to bend into a tight turn and is a little stiff for bumps, but quite manageable in a 165 cm length. 
It will blast through heavy crud as long as it's not too deep.  Deep heavy crud will have the ski dialing up more turn than the platform will hold and you will be challenged by unintentional sideways skiing in deep snow (so would the RX8 in those conditions if you try and push it to the limit), but you have the PM Gear Bro for that.
The fisher is a great ski. Top groomer. Very exciting. The RTM 84 another great ski. More all mountain but only last year and this year's model. Two top choices. 168 or 172.
post #7 of 10
Thread Starter 

Thanks levi. Ok, so a couple of skis on my list to demo next season. The Brahma in 173 and RTM 84 in 172. I'll try to find the WC SC also to see if I can handle them in the bumps.

 

Any other recommendations will be greatly appreciated!

post #8 of 10

I suck at bump skiing, but for what it's worth, I find my 165 cm WC SCs (0.5 base 3 side) just about a tie with my 190 cm Volant Machetes Gs (1,1 tune), and my 188 Völkl P50 F1s (1 base 2 side).  I'm pretty sure if I put a more forgiving base tune on the SCs (e.g. 1 base, 2 side) they would be easiest.    I do notice that they are just a tad too stiff for big ice bumps with deep narrow troughs.

post #9 of 10
The tune makes that much of a difference?
post #10 of 10
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The tune makes that much of a difference?


Yes. The SCs originally came with a 1-3,  which was very very forgiving.    More base bevel makes for easier sideways and mogul skiing, less makes for more precise carving.

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