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100-110 underfoot playful charger

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 

Hey guys, it's that time again. Looking for some more input on skis I already have on my list or maybe some I haven't thought of. I'm looking to replace my Line Influence 105 as my daily driver since it's discontinued and I won't be able to find another one soon. I love this ski, but I also would Ideally like to add something a bit more playful. My home mountain is Revelstoke and I primarily ski off piste. For some context my quiver is Line influence 105, Influence 115, Pollard's Opus, Armada Norwalk, Atomic Automatic 117.

 

My main criteria is directional and stable, but I'm willing to budge a bit on that to allow for more turn shapes and playfulness. I need something for between storm cycles that can handle bowls, chutes, tight trees, stashes of pow, pillow lines and can do it all in variable conditions at variable speeds, including really damn fast. I can't stress enough how important multiple turn shapes is. I feel like that's what makes a charger a truly great ski.

 

Skis on my short list:

 

-Line Supernatural 108, I have been on this ski. It is most likely the closest ski to what I'm after but I still want to explore other options. Also I can't find a reasonably priced one in my size.

-Moment Meridian

-Atomic Vantage Ritual 100

-on3p Wrenegade 102

-New Cochise

 

Skis I've crossed off.

-Moment Belafonte

-Atomic Automatic 109

-4frnt kye

-kitten factory Chairman, (only comes in one size as of now)

-Volkl Katana

-atomic vantage cti 100

-salomon Q Lab

 

Thanks for any input.


Edited by btbam - 9/12/16 at 5:49pm
post #2 of 16

Hey btbam,

 

I'm going to bump this a bit by asking your height and weight, and for a conservative guess at your skier level.

post #3 of 16

Crap with that lineup and where he skis I imagine he is a bit of a superstar.

 

J Skis The Metal

 

Something from Black Crows

 

Stohli Stormrider 107

 

 

Head Monster 108

post #4 of 16

Two skis to add to your list:

 

Nordica Enforcer 100

PMGear Bro (99 underfoot)

 

Both pretty hard-charging and very playful/nimble skis. The PMGear is a great big-mountain ski though the price tag has climbed since they went to carbon.  The Lhasa 112 is another model from PMGear that fits the bill though I haven't personally skied it.

post #5 of 16

No new Bro's for a few years now

post #6 of 16

Nordica Enforcer x2

I also tried the NRGY 100 last year and loved it - most playful ski I've ever tried. My SO is considering it as his daily driver - did well on everything here in AB. Feels really different from metal layer skis.

 

And what about the Armada TST? I tried the TSTw from one of my friends - and I quite liked it. Playful but still stable. 

post #7 of 16
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by lakespapa View Post
 

Hey btbam,

 

I'm going to bump this a bit by asking your height and weight, and for a conservative guess at your skier level.


Hello. 5'10, 140 lbs expert.

post #8 of 16
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maineac View Post
 

Crap with that lineup and where he skis I imagine he is a bit of a superstar.

 

J Skis The Metal

 

Something from Black Crows

 

Stohli Stormrider 107

 

 

Head Monster 108

 

Awesome, exactly the kind of stuff I'm looking for thanks. Have you been on any of these?

post #9 of 16

I was just reading reviews of the Black Crows Orb and Atris on Realskiers. One of the Black Crows might work for you — they sound kind of amazing — but I'm not sure demos are possible. They're fairly new in the States. 

post #10 of 16
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by kelly001 View Post
 

Two skis to add to your list:

 

Nordica Enforcer 100

PMGear Bro (99 underfoot)

 

Both pretty hard-charging and very playful/nimble skis. The PMGear is a great big-mountain ski though the price tag has climbed since they went to carbon.  The Lhasa 112 is another model from PMGear that fits the bill though I haven't personally skied it.

I have tried the Enforcers and found their speed limit quite quickly. That said if I am going to compromise some charging for some playfulness it's a ski I definitely need to keep in mind. I'm just not quite ready to compromise just yet. :) I've never heard of these Bro's I'll check them out thanks.

 

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Originally Posted by Maineac View Post
 

No new Bro's for a few years now

That's okay, older is cheaper.

post #11 of 16
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lakespapa View Post
 

I was just reading reviews of the Black Crows Orb and Atris on Realskiers. One of the Black Crows might work for you — they sound kind of amazing — but I'm not sure demos are possible. They're fairly new in the States. 


Cool, I'll check them out thanks. There's no demos where I live anyways.

post #12 of 16

Here's the website: https://www.black-crows.com

Here's the Realskiers page (non-member; and you have to scroll to get to Black Crows): http://www.realskiers.com/ski-reviews/

Blister reviewed the Atris: http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/2016-2017-black-crows-atris

 

Good luck!

post #13 of 16
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by albertanskigirl View Post
 

Nordica Enforcer x2

I also tried the NRGY 100 last year and loved it - most playful ski I've ever tried. My SO is considering it as his daily driver - did well on everything here in AB. Feels really different from metal layer skis.

 

And what about the Armada TST? I tried the TSTw from one of my friends - and I quite liked it. Playful but still stable. 


Thank you, I forgot about the NRGY and I believe it comes in a 107 now which is right around my favorite width. The TST is a little to soft and sketchy at high speeds for me, I have the wider version of the TST called the Norwalk which is much more stable.

post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by lakespapa View Post
 

Here's the website: https://www.black-crows.com

Here's the Realskiers page (non-member; and you have to scroll to get to Black Crows): http://www.realskiers.com/ski-reviews/

Blister reviewed the Atris: http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/2016-2017-black-crows-atris

 

Good luck!


That looks like a super fun ski, very very interesting thank you.

post #15 of 16

No, I have not skied any of the skis I mentioned.  I am sure I would enjoy owning any of them.  They were skis I thought of when you said your main criteria is directional and stable.

 

You had a nice list of skis to start with.  ON3P Wren especially have a great rep

 

Take a look at Praxis lineup too. Especially if your emphasis is more towards your thread title: Playful and Charger.  Which is a bit of a hard mix as I see skis.  The skis I listed were more towards the charger side of the balance.

post #16 of 16
ON3P Wrenegade for sure, though for this coming season they make it in 88, 98 and 108. Last year the Wrens were 102 and 112 and you might be able to find some at a decent price. You can check ON3P's website, also Evo carries them too. (Personally I loved the ON3P Billy Goat in 179 even more than Wrens).

I'm about your height and weight. My fav's in that segment are the aforementioned ON3P's, also might take a look at Volkl 100Eight, Salomon QST 106, and Fischer Ranger 108, lengths 180-182.
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