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Head natural instinct ski sizing [for intermediate at Shasta, Ashland]

post #1 of 28
Thread Starter 

Hi trying to size up a set of Head natural instinct skis 

my stats 68" 165ish with boots, clothing, pack and water

strong beginner to intermediate progressing quickly (few years of X/C moving in to downhill) 

Thanks for the help

post #2 of 28
Thread Starter 
No input? Been looking over the information on this Web sight and I believe I am in the ballpark for sizing. Any Other recommendations or advice is welcome
post #3 of 28
We've lost a lot of knowledgeable members lately that are qualified to answer your questions. I'm not. Hope some of them will recognize the error of their ways or other qualified members will care to comment.
post #4 of 28
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by XLTL View Post

We've lost a lot of knowledgeable members lately that are qualified to answer your questions. I'm not. Hope some of them will recognize the error of their ways or other qualified members will care to comment.

That is unfortunate to be losing so many people
post #5 of 28

You're about my height, and 10lbs heavier. If you were one of my students, and you were already skiing parallel, I'd put you in a 170 with no problems. Assuming we're talking about the same ski, the next shortest length is 163, and while that would be fine if you were an outright beginner, it's too short once you've advanced and want to go any faster!

post #6 of 28
Sounds like a good size. Also realize you'll be progressing out of it within a year especially if you get some lessons and do a lot of skiing. But that's absolutely the way to do it. Find the sticky to tell you how to give us all the information we need to help you. Also need to know about your boots. I don't think we lost but a few members. We're just not ramped up yet.
post #7 of 28
Fill out the sticky when you open up ski gear discussion and give us the information. Then read the sticky in the boot section and give us that information.
post #8 of 28
Thread Starter 
not seeing the sticky got a link?
post #9 of 28
Go to the main menu in the Forum. Then click on ski gear discussion. Look at the top and you will see forum note. Click on that then do the same in the boot section.
post #10 of 28
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by levy1 View Post

Go to the main menu in the Forum. Then click on ski gear discussion. Look at the top and you will see forum note. Click on that then do the same in the boot section.

sorry but i do not see this "forum note"

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post #12 of 28
Thread Starter 

Ya still not getting what you want out of that...

Be clear in what you want i can not read your mind

Do you want the questions answered in a post on here

do you want me to put that info in my profile

or as a post on that sticky...

post #13 of 28
  1. Where in the world are you skiing? 

  2. What kinds of terrain do you prefer (groomed runs, moguls, race course, park'n'pipe, trees, steeps, backcountry/sidecountry)

  3. How many days a year do you ski?

  4. How advanced are you as a skier?

  5. What's your height and weight? 

 

post #14 of 28
Thread Starter 

so this?

 

  1. Pacific NW Shasta and Ashland mostly

  2. groomed runs

  3. 15+/year 

  4. Beginner moving quickly in to intermediate 

  5. 5,8 165ish with boots and equipment

post #15 of 28
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Originally Posted by SWolf View Post
 

Hi trying to size up a set of Head natural instinct skis 

my stats 68" 165ish with boots, clothing, pack and water

strong beginner to intermediate progressing quickly (few years of X/C moving in to downhill) 

Thanks for the help

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWolf View Post
 

so this?

 

  1. Pacific NW Shasta and Ashland mostly

  2. groomed runs

  3. 15+/year 

  4. Beginner moving quickly in to intermediate 

  5. 5,8 165ish with boots and equipment


Welcome to EpicSki!  Always helps to know what region someone is skiing in.  I have friends who are supporters of Ashland.

 

How did you decide on the Head ski?

post #16 of 28
Thread Starter 

The head natural instinct was rated as one of the better beginner Skis on quite a few different sights

post #17 of 28
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The head natural instinct was rated as one of the better beginner Skis on quite a few different sights


Ah, that explains it.  Fair to say that around here most people are thinking about skis that are rated for at least intermediates if they want advice for an adult.  I've also noticed that beginner skis can be pretty cheap so sometimes seem like a good deal.  But in the long run may be better to look for skis that will last for more than one season.  What did you do for skis and boots last season?

post #18 of 28
I know I'm asking you to go through some steps if you want to be really good skier and fairly quickly a little more information would really help.
Pull yourliner out of your boots put your foot in your boots toes lightly touching then measure how many fingers you get behind your heel. Then tell us your street shoe size your boot size. Then I can get you some really good information which will take a couple years off you becoming a really good skier.
post #19 of 28
Thread Starter 

best fit i can find in boots at the moment are

Rossi Alis 120 26.5 evrey day shoo is a size 9

they defonetly do not feel like a 120 feels more like a 90

shell fitted about a finger and a half with 3mm of play in the fore foot.

i have a funky foot 103 to 104 fore foot rest is skinny

im am not 100% happy with the rossi fit so i have a Dalbello Boss I.D.

on order to see if that will fit a little better.

if not i will suck it up and head up north to Mt Bachelor and see if the shop up there has any good ideas

post #20 of 28
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by marznc View Post
 


Ah, that explains it.  Fair to say that around here most people are thinking about skis that are rated for at least intermediates if they want advice for an adult.  I've also noticed that beginner skis can be pretty cheap so sometimes seem like a good deal.  But in the long run may be better to look for skis that will last for more than one season.  What did you do for skis and boots last season?

I kinda expected to have to buy a more intermediate ski later in the season when i get more comfortable 

post #21 of 28
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Originally Posted by SWolf View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by marznc View Post
 


Ah, that explains it.  Fair to say that around here most people are thinking about skis that are rated for at least intermediates if they want advice for an adult.  I've also noticed that beginner skis can be pretty cheap so sometimes seem like a good deal.  But in the long run may be better to look for skis that will last for more than one season.  What did you do for skis and boots last season?

I kinda expected to have to buy a more intermediate ski later in the season when i get more comfortable 


Since you already have experience on XC skis, if you take a lesson or two, you'll be past the beginner stage pretty quickly.  If you could get to Ashland midweek, I bet a group lesson would end up a solo lesson early in the season.  Certainly hope is snows enough in Dec to get open well before Christmas.

 

My friend's ski shop is the Rogue Ski Shop in Medford.  He said they will be having a pre-season sale fairly soon.  Might be worth a look.  May also be possible to consider a season lease.  By the spring, you'll have a much better idea of what to buy in terms of skis.

post #22 of 28
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by marznc View Post
 


Since you already have experience on XC skis, if you take a lesson or two, you'll be past the beginner stage pretty quickly.  If you could get to Ashland midweek, I bet a group lesson would end up a solo lesson early in the season.  Certainly hope is snows enough in Dec to get open well before Christmas.

 

My friend's ski shop is the Rogue Ski Shop in Medford.  He said they will be having a pre-season sale fairly soon.  Might be worth a look.  May also be possible to consider a season lease.  By the spring, you'll have a much better idea of what to buy in terms of skis.

 

i love Rogue Ski Shop they are a great shop if you know what you are after. The owners are too passive kinda letting you go with what ever you feel like.

they never told me to shell fit my boot or any of the other ways to see if its a good fit just kinda did the tried on a pile of boots. If i did not read up and know what shell fitting was i would probably come out of there with a sloppy boot.

post #23 of 28
Thread Starter 

Any other recommendations if you guys think i will out grow the head skis too fast can just rent beginner skis instead 

post #24 of 28

Something like the  Rossignol Experience 100  or Blizzard Bonafide in a 170-something might be something up your alley. More float than the Heads, but wonderfully fun for pounding through the cascade concrete we get in the PNW.

post #25 of 28
Thread Starter 

I think i will be sticking with the Head skis for a bit then sell them off mid season when i can comfortable drive a more intermediate ski.

a possibility for later in the season is the rossi soul 7.

do not know if i should go for the 164 or 172.


Edited by SWolf - 9/12/16 at 12:16pm
post #26 of 28
172
post #27 of 28
Thread Starter 
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172

cool tx

post #28 of 28

I would also suggest the Instinct in a 170.  I had a somewhat similar ski in the Rev 78.  Different dimensions, no Graphene, and a different binding but still the same core and base.  I'm roughly your size and had it in a 170.  It will be fine.  I wouldn't anticpate getting a lot back for the ski if you plan on selling mid season.  I kept the ski around for visiters because it is such an easy going ski.  One note, I know they claim great edge hold but be careful.  Get use to skiing it on hard surface/re freeze/ice before really pushing it.  

 

I did demo a few of the Instinct's last season and liked them.  The versions with metal had better edge hold.

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