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An Epic Pass to ski Europe? Happening in 2016-17

post #1 of 11
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The Epic Pass is going to be good for skiing in a few places in Europe in 2016-17.  Following the MCP or Powder Alliance model, only a few days and sometimes requires resort lodging.

 

http://www.onthesnow.com/news/a/621101/epic-pass-grows-4-countries-larger-for-16-17

 

post #2 of 11

The most valuable option is the 5 days at the 4 Vallees. That covers almost all of a week-long trip and will save somewhere around $330-365 at the current exchange rate, depending on which time of the winter you're visiting.

 

The 6 days in France looks good at first glance, but 2 days in three separate ski areas isn't that great. All three are absolutely gigantic areas, and most of their accommodation is targeted at 7-night stays (mainly Saturday-Saturday). Also, there's just enough distance between them to add to the points above and make resort hopping far more hassle than it's worth. So unless you plan on making multiple trips to France, you're probably only going to end up using 2 of the days. Still, it's better than nothing.

post #3 of 11
Yep not as good as it was 3 years ago when they ran the Epic Race débâcle. Used to be 5 in Arlberg without accommodation restrictions. Likewise for 3 V
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Originally Posted by fatbob View Post

Yep not as good as it was 3 years ago when they ran the Epic Race débâcle. Used to be 5 in Arlberg without accommodation restrictions. Likewise for 3 V


After that year, what were the days in Europe for the Epic Pass?  I don't remember anyone talking about it last year.

post #5 of 11

I too don't remember hearing about deals for Europe with last year's pass. I tried Googling the 15/16 pass, but none of the articles I found mentioned any European resorts.

post #6 of 11

The in-resort lodging requirement at Verbier and Arlberg was introduced in 2013/14 season. When I went to Verbier with the Epic Pass in 2013, there was no lodging requirement.

post #7 of 11
No days in Arlberg or 3 V last year. Got a feeling no Arlberg but 5 day 3v was there 14/15.
post #8 of 11
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Found an article about the Epic Pass 2015-16 that mentions Verbier.  Sounds like it's been an experiment every year since European destinations were added.  Wonder whether Vail had to push the idea or the European resorts were eager to be included in a 2016-17 Epic Pass.

 

http://www.travelandleisure.com/articles/best-ski-passes-2016

post #9 of 11

I doubt the European resorts are all that eager. People from North America make up a pretty tiny fraction of the skiers in the Alps. The only way that would increase significantly would be if prices in NA resorts increased much more rapidly than in Europe for the next several years. And even then, you're more likely to see people in NA simply stop skiing rather than going to Europe in large numbers.

 

Also, for the interconnected ski areas made up of multiple towns, which is almost all of the major ski areas in Europe, there's the added complication of figuring out how the costs of such a deal should be split up among the different lift companies.

post #10 of 11

Most European mountains don't own the lodging/restaurant or even the ski schools like the American mountains do. What motivation they would have to offer free lift access unless Vail subsidize the cost in the background? 

post #11 of 11
For anyone coming out with this pass to the alps this winter. If you are interested in a safari trip using all or some of the different ski passes let me know. A group of us are planning a tour of all the main areas. This will include transport, places to stay, half board, insurance if needed, gear rental if needed plus anything else you may require. I could expand the plan if people are interested. Should be a lot of fun!
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