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It's early to crank it up, maybe, but the calendar's climbing the slope of the year, and if you're like me, you're wondering when you can scrape off the storage wax and hit the mountain!

 

Once there's chill in late-August mornings, summer's over. Snow may take forever to show up, but the heart's already skiing.

 

Let's not mince words. Last season sucked here (we can argue that). Yes, I skied almost as much as I did during the (fantastic) 2014-15 season, but by any economic measure, sucked is the only applicable term. I don't want to talk about it.

 

So this season, knock on wood . . .  

 

La Niña, bless her frosty little heart, is rumored to be lurking in the Pacific, and that's usually good news for us.

 

Average or better? Time will tell.

 

In the meantime — here it is! The NEW & IMPROVED Northeast Thread!

 

Pray snow!

 

 

 

So, here's a question — Killington or Monday River? And what date?

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I'll go with Sunday River on November 5th. They gotta get going early, they have a new lift to pay for. Hope the weather cooperates.

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 Hope the weather cooperates.

 

 

+1!

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So I'm going to throw this out too early too, but I'm getting psyched for ski season already...

 

My job will now be taking me to southern NH about once a month... I can probably choose the days so that I can be in New England for a weekend and ski, so I'm looking at options. 

 

I'll probably try to make it to Stowe at some point, since I have 2 free days there on my MCP... Given that I'll be flying in and out of Manchester (most likely) what would be recommendations to hit for an intermediate? (Especially given that I'll be skiing Fridays and Saturdays - so less crowded is a plus!)

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So I'm going to throw this out too early too, but I'm getting psyched for ski season already...

 

My job will now be taking me to southern NH about once a month... I can probably choose the days so that I can be in New England for a weekend and ski, so I'm looking at options. 

 

I'll probably try to make it to Stowe at some point, since I have 2 free days there on my MCP... Given that I'll be flying in and out of Manchester (most likely) what would be recommendations to hit for an intermediate? (Especially given that I'll be skiing Fridays and Saturdays - so less crowded is a plus!)


Hey — let's put it together!  Come on over to Sunapee. It's west, but you'll be among friends.  

 

Night skiing? Little ol' Crotched (small) or Pat's Peak (smaller but easter).

 

Northern NH?  Interstate 93 is mainline to Cannon, Wildcat, Bretton Woods (intermediate heaven, so I hear) among others. 

 

It'll be a blast!  Hope to ski with you.

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Bretton Woods and Attitash were decent for me as an advanced beginner. Watervillle Valley was a skating rink the day I went - the next day, Bretton Woods was, by comparison, magical. BW was/is known for its grooming.

I've not been to Loon, but you'll drive by it en route to the others. I've heard it's crazy on weekends so better to hit it on Friday than Saturday.

Manchester is a great airport for ski trips.

If you fly into Albany sometime, definitely go to Belleayre.
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Yeah, Manchester is on the way to everywhere in VT and NH except Southern VT. Lots of choices.
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So I'm going to throw this out too early too, but I'm getting psyched for ski season already...

 

My job will now be taking me to southern NH about once a month... I can probably choose the days so that I can be in New England for a weekend and ski, so I'm looking at options. 

 

I'll probably try to make it to Stowe at some point, since I have 2 free days there on my MCP... Given that I'll be flying in and out of Manchester (most likely) what would be recommendations to hit for an intermediate? (Especially given that I'll be skiing Fridays and Saturdays - so less crowded is a plus!)

 

 

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Yeah, Manchester is on the way to everywhere in VT and NH except Southern VT. Lots of choices.

 

Agreed, Manchester is on the way to places in VT and NH. The NH resorts mentioned has plenty of intermediate trails. As for w/e crowds, Loon and Sunapee is bad. Pats Peaks gets crowded but they have three lifts that take you to the summit so it distributes the lines. I have opted for Crotched b/c it has fun terrain if the glades are open or if there's bumps underneath the lift line and the lift lines are non existance because it doesn't have major highway access and doesn't have the vertical. 

 

Across the border in VT, Mt Snow and Okemo, each has plenty of intermediate trails but they do get the crowds. K Mart since its two towns over from Okemo, once you go there, you can see why skiers will ether love it or hate the place. Never been to Stratton, was always out of my price range for mid season conditions.  


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If you are going to ski Friday and Saturday I suggest you visit a bigger and smaller ski area each weekend. Visit the larger area on Friday when the crowds will still be much lower. Then on Saturday hit up a cheaper and less crowded option.

 

If you have Fridays free to ski Mt Sunapee should be on your list. I you buy your ticket 4 days in advance then you can get a Friday midweek ticket 50% off. The midweek crowds almost anywhere are rarely big. $36 for two HSQ and very good snowmaking and grooming.

 

I would also echo the support for Bretton Woods. It is relatively flat, but if you go in wanting a day on very good snow and grooming it is hard to top. They have some very good trees for an intermediate. The terrain is ideal for taking a lesson and working on basic fundamentals. You may also want to plan a visit over to the Mount Washington Hotel. The food is not cheap, but it is good and the ambiance is grand.

 

SkiNH.com often sells discounted tickets preseason to most resorts. I can't vouch if they are good prices or not.

 

Ragged and the Dartmouth Skiway have always had great prices on Liftopia for Saturdays.

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To change it up,  I dropped off a pair of skis to SKIMD yesterday for a pre-season grind. They open in August and get real busy by October. Figured I'd beat the rush and I was in the Framingham area anyways. Kind of nice that Mike D. could come out of the shop and have a conversation. He let me know he has a new grinding machine this year and can do even more than past years. Said a 1/4 degree base bevel is no problem and can do any type of bottom structure you want. His prices are the same, which are a little high, but the value is there because no one does a better job than him. He has cured over a dozen pairs of skis of issues for me by redoing the bottoms. FWIW, its $95 for a "factory fresh" bottom job. Your skis will never ski better than after he does them.

 

OK, time to turn off the "pitch". I don't have anything to do financially with him other than I am involved in racing and all our fastest kids use him. I guess I am a perfect bottom groupee, but I can feel the difference every time I ski.  I am getting excited for this season, especially after such a dud last year. I have two new skis to try out this year so I am really looking forward to it.  

 

Pray for snow

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If you are going to ski Friday and Saturday I suggest you visit a bigger and smaller ski area each weekend. Visit the larger area on Friday when the crowds will still be much lower. Then on Saturday hit up a cheaper and less crowded option.

 

If you have Fridays free to ski Mt Sunapee should be on your list. I you buy your ticket 4 days in advance then you can get a Friday midweek ticket 50% off. The midweek crowds almost anywhere are rarely big. $36 for two HSQ and very good snowmaking and grooming.

 

I would also echo the support for Bretton Woods. It is relatively flat, but if you go in wanting a day on very good snow and grooming it is hard to top. They have some very good trees for an intermediate. The terrain is ideal for taking a lesson and working on basic fundamentals. You may also want to plan a visit over to the Mount Washington Hotel. The food is not cheap, but it is good and the ambiance is grand.

 

SkiNH.com often sells discounted tickets preseason to most resorts. I can't vouch if they are good prices or not.

 

Ragged and the Dartmouth Skiway have always had great prices on Liftopia for Saturdays.


Also, dbostedo, the Dartmouth Skiway has screaming deals on 1 hour private lessons + all-day lift tickets. Our own @T-Square teaches there (still, I think); he did a lot for me.

 

Fridays at Sunapee are preferable, yes, but if you're around on a Saturday or, better, a Sunday (or any holiday) I'll ski with you. Most of the terrain isn't challenging, but it's interesting.

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I'll go with Sunday River on November 5th. They gotta get going early, they have a new lift to pay for. Hope the weather cooperates.

Another Levy!
No wonder people are leaving this forum****
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Hey — let's put it together!  Come on over to Sunapee. It's west, but you'll be among friends.  

 

Night skiing? Little ol' Crotched (small) or Pat's Peak (smaller but easter).

 

Northern NH?  Interstate 93 is mainline to Cannon, Wildcat, Bretton Woods (intermediate heaven, so I hear) among others. 

 

It'll be a blast!  Hope to ski with you.

 

Oh yeah... @L&AirC is my Crotched contact, and I'm hoping to hook up with him on that too. I've also been to Pat's Peak the one time I skied up there previously.

 

Thanks for all the great suggestions... I'll be looking at trail maps and ticket options! And @lakespapa I'll definitely try to meet you at Sunapee! Perhaps we could get @T-Square out as well. 

 

By the way, do people in NE actually say "craic"? I had to look it up. :cool 

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Hey — let's put it together!  Come on over to Sunapee. It's west, but you'll be among friends.  

 

Night skiing? Little ol' Crotched (small) or Pat's Peak (smaller but easter).

 

Northern NH?  Interstate 93 is mainline to Cannon, Wildcat, Bretton Woods (intermediate heaven, so I hear) among others. 

 

It'll be a blast!  Hope to ski with you.

 

Oh yeah... @L&AirC is my Crotched contact, and I'm hoping to hook up with him on that too. I've also been to Pat's Peak the one time I skied up there previously.

 

Thanks for all the great suggestions... I'll be looking at trail maps and ticket options! And @lakespapa I'll definitely try to meet you at Sunapee! Perhaps we could get @T-Square out as well. 

 

By the way, do people in NE actually say "craic"? I had to look it up. :cool 


Craic is an Irish-ism, made famous recently by those brothers who won silver medals for rowing at the Olympics — it's exactly what we do here, kind of like banterThe original colonists were English, of course (e.g., my mother's family, 1670), but there have been healthy influxes of Irish, Italian, Greek, and French immigrants, not to mention people from Massachusetts and New York. :D The Old New Englanders don't speak Irish generally, but a kind of English.

 

If you're skiing Crotched on a Friday night in January, look me up. I take my school's ski club there in the evening.

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I've also been to Pat's Peak the one time I skied up there previously.

 

 

For those interested, Pat's Peak has a legit bump run. It's called Hurricane, the formation isn't seeded  but is skier/rider made. Snow towers are on skier's left, it appears to me they use it for boiler plate  and to touch up the run when sections get slick. 

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I've also been to Pat's Peak the one time I skied up there previously.

 

 

For those interested, Pat's Peak has a legit bump run. It's called Hurricane, the formation isn't seeded  but is skier/rider made. Snow towers are on skier's left, it appears to me they use it for boiler plate  and to touch up the run when sections get slick. 


Interesting. I'll have to check it out. Haven't skied Pat's in years.

 

There are bumps at Crotched, too — I don't think they're seeded — on Pluto's Plunge and Jupiter's Storm (the mountain's steepest run). Sunapee has bumps on the Sun Bowl side (Lift Line) and on Upper Flying Goose, both seeded.

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Interesting. I'll have to check it out. Haven't skied Pat's in years.

 

There are bumps at Crotched, too — I don't think they're seeded — on Pluto's Plunge and Jupiter's Storm (the mountain's steepest run). Sunapee has bumps on the Sun Bowl side (Lift Line) and on Upper Flying Goose, both seeded.

 

Crotched does not seed and they rely on natural snow for the two trails mentioned. The later is a subtle point in how the trials are maintained through out the season and whether they will last for spring skiing. Both Pats Peak and Sunapee does blow a boilerplate on and will layer it with man made. This protects the run when we usually get the Jan/Feb thaw and when spring comes around it delays a lot of the brown outs in the troughs. I had great spring skiing days at Pat's Peak and Sunapee. Around the same time, the bumps at Crotched have disappeared. 

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Interesting. I'll have to check it out. Haven't skied Pat's in years.

 

There are bumps at Crotched, too — I don't think they're seeded — on Pluto's Plunge and Jupiter's Storm (the mountain's steepest run). Sunapee has bumps on the Sun Bowl side (Lift Line) and on Upper Flying Goose, both seeded.

 

Crotched does not seed and they rely on natural snow for the two trails mentioned. The later is a subtle point in how the trials are maintained through out the season and whether they will last for spring skiing. Both Pats Peak and Sunapee does blow a boilerplate on and will layer it with man made. This protects the run when we usually get the Jan/Feb thaw and when spring comes around it delays a lot of the brown outs in the troughs. I had great spring skiing days at Pat's Peak and Sunapee. Around the same time, the bumps at Crotched have disappeared. 


Crotched was ugly in the spring last season. I took one run and gave it up, while Sunapee skied well for a few weeks after that. My last day was at Stowe, April 18th. 

 

But let's not talk about last year.

post #19 of 484
Yes let's not as I trashed my skis at Stowe in February
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No, let's not mention last year.

 

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Hey — let's put it together!  Come on over to Sunapee. It's west, but you'll be among friends.  

 

Night skiing? Little ol' Crotched (small) or Pat's Peak (smaller but easter).

 

Northern NH?  Interstate 93 is mainline to Cannon, Wildcat, Bretton Woods (intermediate heaven, so I hear) among others. 

 

It'll be a blast!  Hope to ski with you.

 

If you are down in MA and drive north on 93, that will get you to Crotched (via small roads), Pat's Peak and Sunapee (both via 87), Ragged (small roads), Waterville Valley (via 49), Loon, and Cannon (both right off the highway), and Bretton Woods (via 3 and 302)

 

To get to Wildcat starting in MA, you might be better going up 95, then 16.  

 

Yes, Bretton Woods is full of beautiful green and blue cruisers, all without double fall lines, all accessed by high speed quads.  It has short but fun glades all over the mountain for all abilities, and one T-bar accessing blue glades with an old-fashioned warming hut at the top of the lift.  It has two VERY short steep groomed headwalls on blue/green groomers, pretty much not worth mentioning.  The terrain is pretty flat, but they have done a very good job of optimizing it for families with skiers of different abilities.  A shaky, uncertain skier can ride up every lift and get down on green terrain, with only a few scary spots.  That skier may even be able to ski an easy glade on a good day.  

 

The lodge is nice, too.  There's a climbing wall in there, and a big fireplace to warm you feet.  Get this: the women's bathrooms have hairdryers in them.  How often do you see that?  Across the street is the Mt. Washington Hotel, which can't be beat for classy apres in front of the fireplace, under the moose.  I like the moose.

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This is going to be a great year in the Northeast.  Why?  Because we are going to will it to be so!

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All over that!
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Ommmmmmmmmmm
Namaste
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Well we've all heard of doing a rain dance, so I guess we have to do a snow dance  (I know that's the name of a trail or two.)

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Actually it's more about cold than about precipitation.

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New Hampshire has a drought going. I've wondered how it'll affect the winter.
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New Hampshire has a drought going. I've wondered how it'll affect the winter.


There's also the impact on water reserves for snow-making.

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Well we've all heard of doing a rain dance, so I guess we have to do a snow dance  (I know that's the name of a trail or two.)

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Actually it's more about cold than about precipitation.

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New Hampshire has a drought going. I've wondered how it'll affect the winter.
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There's also the impact on water reserves for snow-making.

 

 

I don't like where this is headed.... I think the northeast is going to have a fantastic snow year with low temperatures and big bases!

 

:snowfall:snowfall:snowfall:snowfall 

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Rog. Forgot.
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