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Atomic Redster 130 cuff alignment

post #1 of 12
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So I picked up some new old stock Atomic Redster WC 130 boots at the end of last season - 2014 model I think.  Looking to get them set up for this ski season and I've typically just done molded insoles and a cuff alignment on my boots in the past, feet fit pretty well without any major work as long as I keep my arches from collapsing.

 

So, for starters this time I decided to go with some Superfeet Red instead of the molded liners and they seem good just walking around the house so we'll start there.

 

Now the question I have is about the cuff alignment and if it is possible to do without a helper.  Past boots have just had the slotted up and down adjusters where I've loosened them up, flexed the boots a few times and then tightened to align the cuff to my leg..  The new ones have a rotating cam button so clearly this method isn't going to work.   Any DIY advice or maybe some directions that I didn't get with the boots?

 

 

 

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post #2 of 12
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Originally Posted by oldjeep View Post
 

Quote--- " Any DIY advice or maybe some directions that I didn't get with the boots?"

 

 

 

Advice----You will not be able to set the cuff by your self.

 

Take the liners out----put your feet in both boots on your footbeds with the feet/footbeds in the heel pocket of the shell---move the cuff alignment until your calf is centered in the upper shell with equal spacing on both sides,---IF that can be achieved. 

 

If you try to do this by your self you will find that your leg moves in the shell as you bend over to adjust the cuff alignment cam---who knows where you might end up.

 

Good luck

 

Mike

post #3 of 12
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Thanks, so it sounds like I should follow your procedure and then have my wife crank down the screws.  Worst part of the whole deal sounds like getting the liners back out and in.  I've never had a set of boots that the liners stuck to the shell so much trying to put them in. 

post #4 of 12
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 I've never had a set of boots that the liners stuck to the shell so much trying to put them in. 

Soft floppy liners = less control!!! = easy to get out and back in

 

Firm stiff liners = wahoo control!!! = might be worth the effort!!!!

 

pinch the liner heel while you push down on it---- as you pull up and back and then down on the upper cuff of the liner with the other hand, easy peezy;) 

 

mike. 

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Originally Posted by miketsc View Post
 

Soft floppy liners = less control!!! = easy to get out and back in

 

Firm stiff liners = wahoo control!!! = might be worth the effort!!!!

 

pinch the liner heel while you push down on it---- as you pull up and back and then down on the upper cuff of the liner with the other hand, easy peezy;) 

 

mike. 


It isn't really so much that they are any stiffer than my old Progresser 120 liners, more that the atomics have a rubber layer on the bottoms that grab the shell.  I'll give it a try your way next time.  Thanks!

post #6 of 12

Whether you do it yourself or your wife helps make certain the boots are aligned parallel each other approximately hip width apart or separated to mimic your typical stance width.  The toe lugs should be aligned on a line crossing the front of each.  This will prevent boot misalignment from twisting your hips and otherwise influencing the way your legs are positioned in the boots.

 

Your footbeds should be pushed rearward to fit into the heel pocket.  In addition be certain your footbeds sit flat on the zeppa and in the arch area the footbeds are not supported by the boot shell.  there should be space between the shell and the footbed.

 

Lou

post #7 of 12

Forgot additional step.  Cuffs should be buckled.

 

Lou

post #8 of 12
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the additional info.  Hopefully I'll get at it tonight some time.  I'll just click them into a pair of skis on the carpet, that ought to make it pretty easy to get the right stance and keep them parallel.
post #9 of 12

Carpet will let the skis tilt laterally if they need to and give an inaccurate read on your canting needs---do it on a clean hard wood floor---if you can't get your calf muscles centered in the boot cuff then that might indicate the need for further adjustments.

 

Good luck

 

mike

post #10 of 12

Mike is correct with the caveat and I assume he just mistyped, you don't need to click into skis.  Boots on bare floor is fine.  Carpet not so fine.

 

Lou

post #11 of 12
Thread Starter 

 

Thanks all.  Right or wrong, after adjustment check as described above the cuffs are both straight up and down (using the markings on the cam as a guide).  Out of curiosity I took a look at my old boots and they were the same way.

post #12 of 12

Markings on the cam mean nothing about angle of cuffs.  The cuffs are straight up and down if they are in fact straight up and down.when you look at them.  Otherwise what you have learned is that when both cams are at TDC the cuff aligns with your leg properly.

 

Lou

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