Originally Posted by chemist
Yes, that's typical of demo bindings. But have you/your ski friends have noticed this with the Griffon demos, which are supposed to be one of the exceptions to this? Further, I tested mine by putting the skis on the kitchen floor, clamping the boots into the bindings (without me in them), standing on the skis to lock them down, and then checking the binding's lateral displacement by trying to rock the tops of the boots back and forth. I found there was actually less structural play with my Griffon demos than with my Knee Bindings and PRD 12's; my Griffon demos seemed nearly comparable to my FreeFlex 16's.
Yes, I have experienced this also. Correctly or not, I have tentatively attributed this to the metal screw-in-metal-grid design of the Markers, which gives some precision and tightness to them, I'd guess. Many demo bindings with levers for adjustment seem to wobble more, to me. And many non-demo bindings also seem to slightly wobble almost as much, or more. I have tried this from time to time, to see.
I have some much older, more used Marker Griffon demo and Schizo binding sets that don't seem to wobble any more than the newer ones, but in this I may be deluded.
Based on me just hand-wobbling the skis/bindings with my empty boots in them and without also, and just wobbling away the empty binding on the rails with various demo bindings and noticing the lesser wobble (to me almost minute wobble) with the Markers, I was satisfied there was a reason I haven't yet noticed this problem while skiing.
But others have, consistently, including with the Markers, and they are often very skilled, knowledgeable skier folks in the biz for life; so I figure good skiers setting an edge hard, perhaps mostly on steeps, might notice a loss. (Or perhaps I just wobble so much naturally that - eh, one more wobble, more or less, who can tell? Though I hope this is not the case.)
(Hand-wobble, hand-wobble, hand-wobble.)
Edited by ski otter - 9/1/16 at 1:42pm