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post #31 of 71
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I bought the MCP for the first time this year and will be flying from Mass. to Slc at the end of January, which I did last year, too. While it pains me to leave Utah I want to get the most out of the pass. I have 6 days.

Should I go to JHMR or the intriguing new option, but longer drive, to Telluride? My wife doesn't want me to go to Aspen without her and she won't be making this trip.


You're traveling solo?  What about waiting until closer to the date to decide?

 

Have done JH combined with SLC.  Was pretty straightforward because we didn't have any weather to deal with for the drive.  There is more than one way to go, so can adjust for bad weather if necessary.

post #32 of 71

Hotels in Jackson are far cheaper and memory is that it is a shorter drive.  That said, I would follow Marz's advice.  Book hotels in both places with cancellation policies and go where the snow is.  Both drives will have you going over a pass so there is that.

post #33 of 71
Right now it looks like I will be solo. That sounds like excellent advice to wait and see how the winter plays out first. I just didn't know whether one mountain was inherently better. I do not want to shell out a fortune for lodging though. I was looking at the Hostel in Jackson.
post #34 of 71

Salt Lake to Jackson is a lot shorter than to Telluride. 

 

Easier to combine Telluride with Aspen than with SLC

post #35 of 71
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Right now it looks like I will be solo. That sounds like excellent advice to wait and see how the winter plays out first. I just didn't know whether one mountain was inherently better. I do not want to shell out a fortune for lodging though. I was looking at the Hostel in Jackson.


Put it this way, JH was one of the original resorts in the MCP.  Telluride was recently added.  I would say JH is on more bucket lists of advanced/expert skiers who don't ski in the Rockies that often.

post #36 of 71

New here too. Bought the Mountain Collective pass early in the spring. The third free day offered then made it an easy choice for me. Three free days at Stowe plus the rest at half off will cover the cost. Trying to figure out if a trip out west is in the cards. Knowing I have free ski days in my pocket has me eying distances between covered resorts now and will have me looking for cheap airfares in the fall...

post #37 of 71

That's exactly how my friends and I did it. 

post #38 of 71

I think this is my third year with the Mountain Collective pass.

Last year made it to the following MC destinations: 

Snowmass/Aspen: 2+4 days

Jackson: 2 days

Alta/ Snowbird:  3 + 4 days

 

 

I’m going to the same resorts again this season with the new pass.   Also planning to visit Wolf Creek again this season and might make it to Taos or Telluride on a loop.   

post #39 of 71
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I do not want to shell out a fortune for lodging though. I was looking at the Hostel in Jackson.

For a review of the Hostel see posts 12-13 of http://www.epicski.com/t/127636/the-2015-jackson-hole-gathering-discussion-thread

 

Motel 6 in Jackson was not much over $50/night in Feb 2015.

post #40 of 71
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Originally Posted by tseeb View Post
 

For a review of the Hostel see posts 12-13 of http://www.epicski.com/t/127636/the-2015-jackson-hole-gathering-discussion-thread

 

Motel 6 in Jackson was not much over $50/night in Feb 2015.


I stayed at that Motel 6 in 2014. I was thoroughly impressed with not only how reasonable the price was, but how nice the room was. Recently remodeled, very modern, convenient, and clean.

post #41 of 71
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I stayed at that Motel 6 in 2014. I was thoroughly impressed with not only how reasonable the price was, but how nice the room was. Recently remodeled, very modern, convenient, and clean.


A few of us stayed at Motel 6 in Jackson during 2015 Gathering and all thought it was great for the price. (I'd been on the road for two weeks and was very happy to be in same place for three nights in a row.)

 

Putting in random weekday winter dates for Motel 6 using hotels.com shows a $46 plus tax price with free cancellation until a day before. 

 

Putting in random weekday winter dates for the Hostel shows a $42 plus tax price for a shared room that would get very crowded if full as it likely would be in winter. And no free cancellation. If you cancel 30 days before, there is a 7% processing fee. If you cancel within 30 days, the 50% deposit is forfeited.

post #42 of 71
@tseeb love the price. Wish air wasn't so expensive to offset it.

From 3 minutes of Google, it looks that you're trading being in Jackson vs Teton village. Can you give a little bit of background on logistics of staying in Jackson instead of Teton village?

Thanks in advance
post #43 of 71
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 Can you give a little bit of background on logistics of staying in Jackson instead of Teton village?

 

 

Jackson Hole is a bigger summer destination,  with lots of cheap little hotels in town.   More restaurants, bars and stuff to do.   Bus is 20-30 minutes and $3/each way.

 

Teton Village is kind of small, but it has a couple of nice restaurants and the Mangy Moose, a famous bar.  For short trips, I would stay at the Village and longer trip,  in town.

The caveat,  if it's a powder day, the locals line up at the Tram very early, before 6am. 

post #44 of 71
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@tseeb love the price. Wish air wasn't so expensive to offset it.

From 3 minutes of Google, it looks that you're trading being in Jackson vs Teton village. Can you give a little bit of background on logistics of staying in Jackson instead of Teton village?

Thanks in advance


You could fly into usually much less expensive SLC and use your MCP Altabird days before or after renting a car or catching a ride or shuttle to Jackson. There are at least four routes although three of them share a lot of I-15 between SLC and Idaho. All of them include chance for driving on snowy roads. When I stayed in The Hostel, I had caught a ride to/from SLC with friend's son who was staying in a condo in the Village, We took route through Evanston, WY and had snow on the road a lot of the way. Last year I went through Wayan and Soda Springs which may be shortest/fastest route, but goes through some isolated areas. I have not taken route that goes between Victor and Swan Valley. 

 

As I said in my review of Hostel

"While you can get a room in the town of Jackson for half the $99 plus tax The Hostel charged (all prices Winter 2013-14), you will be about a half hour from skiing and will have to pay to park very close to skiing and you will not be able to boot up in room or return for lunch, to warm up or get or drop clothing during the day."

 

When I stayed at the Motel 6 I had my SUV, but I only drove half-way to Teton Village as I did not want to spend the $10 to park solo (and still have to ride short shuttle). Instead I parked at the Stilson lot and caught free bus which worked well for me even with the early meetups for the Gathering. I'd usually carry my ski boots and change into them and leave shoes under a bench in the Cowboy Cafe. It's not as convenient, but gave me a private room to spread out my stuff and I went out in Jackson both nights after skiing JHMR. The first night I went to potluck off road into Village before checking into Motel 6.

post #45 of 71
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Originally Posted by Dryheat View Post

@tseeb love the price. Wish air wasn't so expensive to offset it.

From 3 minutes of Google, it looks that you're trading being in Jackson vs Teton village. Can you give a little bit of background on logistics of staying in Jackson instead of Teton village?

Thanks in advance

 

For a solo trip flying into Jackson, very appealing to take a shuttle to Teton Village and just have a short walk to the lifts.  Can easily take the bus into town for variety one or two nights.  I would think need to allow at least 30 minutes door-to-door if taking the bus from town.

 

A couple of recent threads about JH.  Can find more at the bottom of the JH Resort Page using the link under Topics Discussed (right hand column in Desktop).

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/143514/driving-from-slc-to-jackson-hole-in-february

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/144841/upcoming-jackson-hole-trip-what-to-expect-kendo-for-early-march

post #46 of 71
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@tseeb love the price. Wish air wasn't so expensive to offset it.

From 3 minutes of Google, it looks that you're trading being in Jackson vs Teton village. Can you give a little bit of background on logistics of staying in Jackson instead of Teton village?

Thanks in advance

 

For a solo trip flying into Jackson, very appealing to take a shuttle to Teton Village and just have a short walk to the lifts.  Can easily take the bus into town for variety one or two nights.  I would think need to allow at least 30 minutes door-to-door if taking the bus from town.

 

A couple of recent threads about JH.  Can find more at the bottom of the JH Resort Page using the link under Topics Discussed (right hand column in Desktop).

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/143514/driving-from-slc-to-jackson-hole-in-february

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/144841/upcoming-jackson-hole-trip-what-to-expect-kendo-for-early-march

I have never rented a car in Jackson, and I have never wanted one.  The one time we drove there, we barely used the car anyway.

If you stay in Teton Village, taking the bus into town and a taxi back works very well and is affordable.  If you stay in one of the Town Square group of hotels in Jackson, they have their own bus that stops right out front. It is a shorter walk from room to bus and bus to hill than it would be from your car in the parking lot at the mountain.

post #47 of 71

As mentioned by others, the hostel may seem expensive initially. But its location makes it worthwhile. 

 

This brings up the geography of Jackson Hole, and the pricing structure of lodging based on location.

 

Jackson actually has THREE different kind of location for lodging: 

 

- by the lift

- by the village

- NOT by anything

 

By the lift usually means Teton Village. It's the most expensive, for obvious reason. (there's also Snow King but the pricing of slope side lodging there isn't the same league as in Teton village). One added advantage of staying at Teton village is you can subtract the cost of a rental car.You don't need a car, period

 

By the village of Jackson is the middle tier in cost. There's a bus going straight to the lift. So it's pretty convenient. And you get to walk around the village for food, for drinks, and for shopping. The bus make a rental car non-essential (you can drive to the mountain but you end up riding a shuttle bus from the parking lot anyway)

 

There're a bunch of motels outside of the village along the highway. Those are the least expensive. Super 8 is one of such. You have to get into a car to drive to the village for dinner (finding parking is hit and miss). You really need a car to get around. So the saving on lodging gets eaten away somewhat. The only time it makes sense to stay outside of town is if you're driving in and the car is not an additional cost. You still end up with the inconvenience though.

 

So the comparison between the hostel and the Super 8 is really reflecting the difference in location. The hostel is a bunk at the top tier location while the Super 8 is a much bigger room at the bottom tier location, for the same price.

post #48 of 71
I fly standby on a buddy pass and you never know if you'll make it, until your walking on the plane.
Jackson's airport has a bank of phones with direct extensions to most hotels.
It took <5 minutes to find a room for under $100, in the village, during a huge snowstorm, over president's weekend.
post #49 of 71

Looks like I am an extremist or just fortunate but I plan on going to all the mountains in the west this winter.  Luckily, I can work from anywhere and have flexible hours to enable my inner ski bum.   Hopefully it will be a good winter.   First, I plan on doing the Banff, Revelstoke and Whistler loop in late December and early January.  I don't like to set concrete dates as I drive everywhere and sometimes I like to storm chase but the lodging in Whistler has a early cancellation.   My only concern is using highway one to get to Whistler but I have snow tires.   I also like doing the Canadian resorts this early since they are the furthest away from me and are the most northern so hopefully coverage will be good.  

 

I also plan to group Squaw and Mammoth into a trip.   In addition, I have the Rocky Mountain Super pass + so I plan on stopping by the others on various trips around Colorado/Arizona and wherever the better conditions exist.  Looking forward to using the MCP as I've been on the Epic pass for the past few seasons and looking forward to some new mountains.  Thanks for the notes on the Motel 6 in Jackson.  I've stayed at the Super 8 during the summer and found that to be overpriced for what it is.  I forgot a $40 hotel even existed in Jackson.  

post #50 of 71
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First, I plan on doing the Banff, Revelstoke and Whistler loop in late December and early January.  I don't like to set concrete dates as I drive everywhere and sometimes I like to storm chase but the lodging in Whistler has a early cancellation.   My only concern is using highway one to get to Whistler but I have snow tires.   I also like doing the Canadian resorts this early since they are the furthest away from me and are the most northern so hopefully coverage will be good. 

Make sure Banff areas have enough natural snow before you go. They typically build snow slowly and preserve it well so later in season is usually better (credit to Tony Crocker). If you are talking about taking Highway 1, then 99 between Revy and Whistler you should try to approach Lillooet before it gets dark and you don't want to drive between there and Whistler after dark, especially if already tired. You could break up drive between Revy and Whistler by skiing at Sun Peaks, which I did in late Feb 2016. But it was a semi long drive from there to Lillooet after skiing and I had to leave in the dark to get to Whistler in time to signup for and join Extremely Canadian two-day Skiing the Steeps clinic.

post #51 of 71
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Make sure Banff areas have enough natural snow before you go.

Yeah, looks like late December should be ok most years but who knows.  I'd just hate to go all the way up to Whistler and not check out the other areas on the pass since I'm up there.  Not really going for great conditions in Banff but rather to take in the beauty of the place.  As for the highway, I'm definitely not driving at night and hoping to make it to or close to Whistler with the limited daylight.  I have front wheel drive and want to reduce my chances of getting stuck on that highway from what I gather from the internet. 

post #52 of 71

So, for the record, decided on Jackson Hole and Alta...flying from NY to Jackson, skiing two days there, taking a bus shuttle to Alta, and skiing two days there. Then a red-eye home from SLC. Will also be adding a bunch of days at Stowe, which I usually ski a few weekends a year anyway. So, the cost of the pass will be well covered in terms of lift tickets, thought there is that expense of the trip west. Still, excited about this opportunity, which I probably wouldn't have pursued without the pass...

post #53 of 71
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So, for the record, decided on Jackson Hole and Alta...flying from NY to Jackson, skiing two days there, taking a bus shuttle to Alta, and skiing two days there. Then a red-eye home from SLC. Will also be adding a bunch of days at Stowe, which I usually ski a few weekends a year anyway. So, the cost of the pass will be well covered in terms of lift tickets, thought there is that expense of the trip west. Still, excited about this opportunity, which I probably wouldn't have pursued without the pass...


Have you been to JH and Alta before?

post #54 of 71

Nope, have never been to neither--that's what pushed me to doing both on this trip. Kind of like the idea of having mountains in MT, WY, CO, and UT under my belt. :)
Also, have snowboarding friends who can't do Alta but that want to do Park City, so figured I'd grab the chance to do it on this trip.

post #55 of 71
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Nope, have never been to neither--that's what pushed me to doing both on this trip. Kind of like the idea of having mountains in MT, WY, CO, and UT under my belt. :)
Also, have snowboarding friends who can't do Alta but that want to do Park City, so figured I'd grab the chance to do it on this trip.


Have you read the EpicSki Unofficial Guides for JH and Alta.  Look in the main menu bar for the link to them.  Of course, two days is not long enough to get anything but a quick impression.  You'll want to go back again at some point.

 

Note that the MCP for Alta is actually the combo pass.  So if Mineral Basin is open, it's easy to go over the top of Sugarloaf for a few runs.  Can also get great views from the Summit lodge.

post #56 of 71

Nope, I have not seen the guides, but will definitely look for them. As I mentioned, I'm pretty new to this page, so still kind of feeling my way around it and will check them out.


I've been to Jackson, and Jackson Hole, but not in many years, and never in winter. No doubt I could spend a bunch of days at both Jackson Hole and Alta, but I look at it as having limited opportunities to make such trips and getting to see all I want to see. Skiing four out of five days, especially at elevation well above what I normally ski will be fine for me. Combine that with me getting a bit restless at one place (no matter how much it offers :) ) when traveling solo, and I think I found a suitable itinerary for me.

post #57 of 71
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Nope, I have not seen the guides, but will definitely look for them. As I mentioned, I'm pretty new to this page, so still kind of feeling my way around it and will check them out.


I've been to Jackson, and Jackson Hole, but not in many years, and never in winter. No doubt I could spend a bunch of days at both Jackson Hole and Alta, but I look at it as having limited opportunities to make such trips and getting to see all I want to see. Skiing four out of five days, especially at elevation well above what I normally ski will be fine for me. Combine that with me getting a bit restless at one place (no matter how much it offers :) ) when traveling solo, and I think I found a suitable itinerary for me.


Not being critical of the plan at all.  I know how hard it is to fit in ski trips in the midst of having a life.

 

JH has free mountain tours.  Well worth an hour or two, especially if conditions are not the greatest.  Can always bail if not getting anything out of it.  Getting from one side to the other is quite possible but can take time to interpret the trail map when it comes to the cross-over trails.

 

You might consider the Adult Workshop at Alta.  Something like $85 for 2.5 hours with an instructor showing a small group the fun stuff that afternoon off-piste.  They break up the group by ability if necessary.

post #58 of 71

Didn't take it as being critical at all, but just explaining a  bit of how I operate--so all good. I was at the NY Ski Expo in Albany last weekend, and Jackson Hole had a booth there. Spoke to their rep for quite a bit, and he mentioned that option. Looking forward to that.

Interesting pointer on Alta--I may well look at something like that.

post #59 of 71

To reiterate what @marznc said, the Mountain Collective gives you two days at Alta/Snowbird.  I love both Alta and Snowbird, but find Snowbird a little more to my liking overall.  It's steeper, has a better lift system, and definitely has some unique terrain worth giving a try.  Since you are wanting to see all that you can see, I would plan on your "two days at Alta" to really be more like "one day at Alta and one day at Snowbird."  It's also worth noting that snowboarders are welcome at Snowbird (in case your only reason for going to Park City was for that reason).  Alta and Snowbird are connected and you can ski from one to the other without any hassle.  In fact, every day I have skied at Snowbird has started at Alta.

post #60 of 71
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In fact, every day I have skied at Snowbird has started at Alta.

I think your doing it backwards.
Snowbird opens 15 minutes earlier, has better morning exposures and last tram is 3ish.
Collins closes at 4:15 and has better late day sun.
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