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Winter Park or Loveland Week Before Christmas?

post #1 of 25
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Thinking of either Winter Park, Loveland, or possibly Arapahoe December 16 - 20th.

 

Considering these mostly for the 4 packs that are offered.  

 

Also, we'll have four kids from 10 - 16 years old with us.  Three of those kids have only skied once...but the 16-year-old is a solid intermediate.

 

Mostly I'm concerned about shorter lift lines and lesser crowds.  I guess any area would have a small amount of terrain for newbies that they would be happy with.

 

What would be your best recommendation? 

post #2 of 25

With that group, LL or WP would be fine, but don't go to A-basin, which is a wonderful place, but doesn't have a whole lot to offer for what you need.  Too small, too few runs in the beginner category.

post #3 of 25

I also suggest Winter Park or Loveland.  They have lots of long beginner and intermediate trails.  Snow conditions should be good.  Winter Park has many high-speed lifts, Loveland has none.  That 4 pass for Winter Park is the best deal around for $179.  Be prepared for cold and windy conditions.  I would not go to A-Basin at that time of year.

post #4 of 25
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Originally Posted by Rubberduck View Post
 

I also suggest Winter Park or Loveland.  They have lots of long beginner and intermediate trails.  Snow conditions should be good.  Winter Park has many high-speed lifts, Loveland has none.  That 4 pass for Winter Park is the best deal around for $179.  Be prepared for cold and windy conditions.  I would not go to A-Basin at that time of year.

This is incorrect.  LL has high-speed lifts.  They also have a dedicated learning area apart from the regular ski area that would benefit never-evers and other learners.  That area gets heavy use from ski-teams early in the year, but might be ready for use by the time you get there.

post #5 of 25
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Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
 

Thinking of either Winter Park, Loveland, or possibly Arapahoe December 16 - 20th.

 

Considering these mostly for the 4 packs that are offered.  

 

Also, we'll have four kids from 10 - 16 years old with us.  Three of those kids have only skied once...but the 16-year-old is a solid intermediate.

 

Mostly I'm concerned about shorter lift lines and lesser crowds.  I guess any area would have a small amount of terrain for newbies that they would be happy with.

 

What would be your best recommendation? 


Not A-Basin quite yet.  I had a good time getting a tour from @Jamesj but would definitely not take friends who were beginners or intermediates.

 

Loveland has two parts.  Beginners can take lessons and practice in a separate area from the main base.  Could be a good way to do group lessons for a lower cost.  Might be busy on weekends when local families are getting their ski season started.  I would not want to keep a bunch of kids together at the main area for more than a day or two.

 

Have the kids slept over 8000 feet before?

post #6 of 25
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Have the kids slept over 8000 feet before?

good point on the altitude.

 

I would suspect if the kids are all active, no issue but if less so, a good consideration and if possible hanging overnight in Denver (if flying to) to reduce risk of sickness.

 

I've thought WP has pretty decent beginners areas and trails and classes if desired. Not sure when classes begin, you may wish to check to see when resorts start their classes if interested.

post #7 of 25
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This is incorrect.  LL has high-speed lifts.  They also have a dedicated learning area apart from the regular ski area that would benefit never-evers and other learners.  That area gets heavy use from ski-teams early in the year, but might be ready for use by the time you get there.

I skied there a few times last March and I did not see any high speed chairlifts at Loveland.  Where are these high speed lifts?  I would define high speed as detachable and much faster than a fixed grip chairlfit.

post #8 of 25
Thread Starter 
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Have the kids slept over 8000 feet before?

Three of the kids live in Cheyenne, WY, which is around 6k I think.  I don't know if they've ever spent the night up in the mountains though.  

 

The 16-year-old lives with me in Florida.  He has slept at 9k in Winter Park for several days with no problems.

post #9 of 25
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Originally Posted by marznc View Post
 

Have the kids slept over 8000 feet before?

Three of the kids live in Cheyenne, WY, which is around 6k I think.  I don't know if they've ever spent the night up in the mountains though.  

 

The 16-year-old lives with me in Florida.  He has slept at 9k in Winter Park for several days with no problems.


Sounds like the high altitude of Loveland won't be an issue for your group.  After spending a week in Denver, I was still not feeling normal when skiing A-Basin before heading to Aspen.  So I tend to consider altitude when planning lodging for a ski trip when flying from Raleigh, NC, which is at about 300 feet.

post #10 of 25

I think WP/MJ would be a great choice.  You already have skied and like WP.  You would have MJ also.  WP has a great beginner area.  And actually there are a couple of green runs from MJ over to WP.  My wife is an advanced beginner and skied both Loveland and A Basin for the 1st time this past season.  She says this is her order.  1) WP  2) A Basin  3) Loveland    but thinks you should also consider Copper (by far her favorite) if 3 of your group have only skied once. 

 

I agree with others that in your case A Basin wouldn't be a good choice because of the very limited terrain for 3 people and between the Basin and LL, LL has better options.

post #11 of 25

If you've got kids, have you considered Keystone? Snow.com has four packs to Keystone for $199 and you can get the Kids Ski Free deals if you book lodging through them. You'll probably find similar crowds to Winter Park, but Keystone's setup for kids is great.

post #12 of 25
Several good options/suggestions offered in this thread. Personally, I like Loveland for your group. It's a crowd beater, price beater (buy a few transferrable four packs of tickets in the preseason), and has a lot of low intermediate terrain that is usually in relatively good shape even in the early season. Here is an old trip report where I took a similarly skilled group in December for a good time at Loveland, and we also hit WP and Eldora: http://www.dcski.com/articles/281 Don't believe I mentioned in that article that there is a good Comfort Inn next to I70 at the Evergreen exit. If you don't mind a 45 min commute to Loveland it has suite rooms, breakfast bar, hot tubs, and might be a good deal in the pre-Christmas time frame. Agree Copper might be real good if you will pay for slopeside accoms or wish to commute from Frisco. Keystone might also be a good bet if you prefer slopeside accoms, although I think that mtn is better for intermediates than newbies.
post #13 of 25
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...there is a good Comfort Inn next to I70 at the Evergreen exit. If you don't mind a 45 min commute to Loveland...

This come with a great big caveat; On a powder day or a mid-season weekend this drive can (will?) be greatly in excess of 45 mins. Make your choice accordingly. If we have a good start to the season Dec 17&18 will act like a mid-season weekend, with a normal start it shouldn't be too bad.

post #14 of 25

Loveland is great. Plus you can get the 3-class pass for the kids who have only skied once. A bit more cash than the 4 day pass, but would give them some serious learning time with great instructors... and it includes a season pass so you can come back over spring break! Georgetown or Dillion/Silverthorne is your closest bet for lodging however. Winter Park would give better lodging options. 

post #15 of 25
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I skied there a few times last March and I did not see any high speed chairlifts at Loveland.  Where are these high speed lifts?  I would define high speed as detachable and much faster than a fixed grip chairlfit.
Rubberduck is correct, there are not any high speed detachable lifts at loveland.
post #16 of 25
Thread Starter 

I've briefly considered Keystone.  But their average snowfall is 230 inches per year.  I'd rather go somewhere that has more possibility for snowfall.

post #17 of 25

Winter Park is a great place for the price.  Good snow, fast lifts, lots of trails.  The family will have fun there.

post #18 of 25
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I've briefly considered Keystone.  But their average snowfall is 230 inches per year.  I'd rather go somewhere that has more possibility for snowfall.

This is true, BUT, because of this fact, Keystone has a good snow making infrastructure. i.e., For myself, for early November, I would pick Keystone and Copper because they will typically be open top to bottom (unless really warm temps hampers snow making). 

 

Different resorts have different time tables as to when they blow snow on different parts of the mountain, but most should be starting to open their beginner areas by the time you are coming.

post #19 of 25

I would be hesitant to recommend Copper in Nov. to someone that has only skied once unless there was a lot of snowfall and ample terrain open.  Might be a bit intimidating for someone that has only skied once.  The 1st thing they will see before getting on the lift will be those orange signs stating "no beginners".  If they do decide to give it a go on the limited terrain then they have to deal with all of the ski schools on the hill drilling.  Throw in the wannabe speed racers and it might be a bit overwhelming.

 

In this case the OP is talking about the week before Christmas so it doesn't apply.

post #20 of 25

I'd recommend WP. 

 

I'm a big fan of Loveland, but I'm a day tripper from Denver. 

 

WP has places to stay, eat, etc. along with fast chairs and the overall "resort" experience that you expect in Colorado.

post #21 of 25
I am also planning a trip, for the Christmas week with my 6 yr old. He has skied 2 seasons and can do parallel turns of blues. I am staying with friends in Englewood and plan to day trip to either Loveland or winter park. The 6 yr will take 3 lessons out of 4 days of skiing. I have skied wp and like it but have not tried Loveland. What would you guys recommend.
Appreciate the suggestions
Thanks
-h
post #22 of 25
If you want to stay at the base, go WP which has great deals pre Xmas. If you don't mind commuting from Georgetown every day, go Lvlnd. 👍
Edited by pdtj - 8/24/16 at 7:27am
post #23 of 25

Dec 16, 19, 20 should be sparse crowds with that 17-18 weekend still not being bad compared to those to follow.  

 

Either Loveland or WP would be my choice, although the fact that Loveland splits beginner lessons into a whole different base area away from main ski area by a shuttle ride may make keeping tabs on the kids not too easy.  Winter Park you can at least ski from one hill to the next if cell phone call comes.  

post #24 of 25

I'd also consider Keystone with their kids ski free.   Being early, the price shouldn't be too bad and you don't have to worry about driving.  Keystone is great for kids and I wouldn't worry about coverage.  If you need lessons, Loveland is pretty cheap but I've never used them.   

post #25 of 25
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I skied there a few times last March and I did not see any high speed chairlifts at Loveland.  Where are these high speed lifts?  I would define high speed as detachable and much faster than a fixed grip chairlfit.
Rubberduck is correct, there are not any high speed detachable lifts at loveland.


There's at least one very long, slow lift at Loveland that does not have a safety bar (unless they've put on on it since I was there several years back).  Would you feel comfortable with your kids riding that lift?  Horseplay could be dangerous.  

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