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Ski Purchase Advice for a Snowboarding Convert [Australia, also skis in Japan]

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Looking for a pair of skis and hoping for some advice on what to look for.  I'm 32 years old, 174 cm (5'9) and 76 kg (167 lbs).  In terms of my experience, I've only skied 4 days, but I was advanced/expert snowboarding of ~20 years, including some serious deep pow in Japan.  I picked up skiing very quick, I was parallel skiing red runs after a few hours, and then skiing black runs on the second day.  So whilst very in-experienced, I would probably put my level at advanced.
 
I'm looking for an all-rounder that can handle the crud here in Aus, and also the deep Japanese fluffy stuff, and is also playful and manoeuvrable.  They don't have to be the best at anything, but should be good in most things.  Most of my snow trips over the last few years has been slack/sidecountry in Japan, either short walks, or lift accessible, but I also do on piste/slack country here in Australia each year, and hoping to do some more touring (day trips only) in Aus too.  I probably only ski 4-8 days here in Aus, and aim to get a 1-2 week overseas trip in a year (last 3 have been Japan).
 
Due to my budget I'll be buying second hand (only recently upgraded my snowboarding kit......sigh). The second hand market here in Aus isn't massive, so I probably won't have the luxury of choosing the exact pair.  So really hoping for advice on things like length, width, flex, rocker type etc.  I've been looking around and are getting some conflicting opinions on what to go for.  Some websites say I need rocker on the tips to get me through the pow, but then I've found some all mountain skis that have traditional camber and the reviews say they are great in pow, so it's a little confusing.  My first proper powder trip on snowboarding I had a dedicated powder board, and then the last one I used a longer, all mountain board of traditional camber and it was just as good.
 
At this stage, I'm thinking I just look for something in my price range, that is 2012 or newer, maybe around 175-180cm, around 85-95 underfoot, and then go for an all-mountain.  Does this sound like a good strategy?  Should I look more deeply into things like rocker/flex etc?  Any advice would be great.  I tried some 180cm demo skis (I think they were Atomic Backland) on the mountain which I really liked, obviously out of my price range though.
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Originally Posted by tmiddled View Post
 
Looking for a pair of skis and hoping for some advice on what to look for.  I'm 32 years old, 174 cm (5'9) and 76 kg (167 lbs).  In terms of my experience, I've only skied 4 days, but I was advanced/expert snowboarding of ~20 years, including some serious deep pow in Japan.  I picked up skiing very quick, I was parallel skiing red runs after a few hours, and then skiing black runs on the second day.  So whilst very in-experienced, I would probably put my level at advanced.
 
I'm looking for an all-rounder that can handle the crud here in Aus, and also the deep Japanese fluffy stuff, and is also playful and manoeuvrable.  They don't have to be the best at anything, but should be good in most things.  Most of my snow trips over the last few years has been slack/sidecountry in Japan, either short walks, or lift accessible, but I also do on piste/slack country here in Australia each year, and hoping to do some more touring (day trips only) in Aus too.  I probably only ski 4-8 days here in Aus, and aim to get a 1-2 week overseas trip in a year (last 3 have been Japan).
 
Due to my budget I'll be buying second hand (only recently upgraded my snowboarding kit......sigh). The second hand market here in Aus isn't massive, so I probably won't have the luxury of choosing the exact pair.  So really hoping for advice on things like length, width, flex, rocker type etc.  I've been looking around and are getting some conflicting opinions on what to go for.  Some websites say I need rocker on the tips to get me through the pow, but then I've found some all mountain skis that have traditional camber and the reviews say they are great in pow, so it's a little confusing.  My first proper powder trip on snowboarding I had a dedicated powder board, and then the last one I used a longer, all mountain board of traditional camber and it was just as good.
 
At this stage, I'm thinking I just look for something in my price range, that is 2012 or newer, maybe around 175-180cm, around 85-95 underfoot, and then go for an all-mountain.  Does this sound like a good strategy?  Should I look more deeply into things like rocker/flex etc?  Any advice would be great.  I tried some 180cm demo skis (I think they were Atomic Backland) on the mountain which I really liked, obviously out of my price range though.

 

What's your price range?

 

I think your focus is in the right direction in terms of length and width under foot.  I would avoid skis that are excessively stiff and would try to pick up something with both tip and tail rocker.  It'll help you both in the crud and in the fluffy stuff.  

 

Any review of a full cambered ski that says it's "great" in powder really has to be speaking relatively to other skis in its category.

 

Rocker/camber profiles and the effect they have on "float" is much more pronounced when dealing with skis vs snowboards, just FYI.  

post #3 of 6
Thread Starter 

Hey, thanks for the reply.  I'll looking around the $200 mark for skiis and bindings.

Not sure if I'll get down for another weekend here in Aus, so might wait until the end of season, see what ex-rentals come on sale.

 

Thanks again, I'll take your info on board!

post #4 of 6
You're on the right lines. As someone who came back to skiing from doing a lot of snowboarding the ski that opened my eyes was a 98mm twin. Something in the 90-100 bracket with tip and some tail rocker will ski a bit like a snowboard I.e. you can pivot them readily but they'll still carve if you lay them over.
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You're on the right lines. As someone who came back to skiing from doing a lot of snowboarding the ski that opened my eyes was a 98mm twin. Something in the 90-100 bracket with tip and some tail rocker will ski a bit like a snowboard I.e. you can pivot them readily but they'll still carve if you lay them over.

 

Hit the nail on the head.  I agree 100%.  Rossignol Slat, Dynastar Slicer, K2 Shreditor 92, Volkl Revolt, and Nordica Soul Rider are all skis I would keep an eye out for.

post #6 of 6
The aussie crud / chop / heavy wet snow / spring slush skis very different from jap pow.

For the aussie stuff you need something that has front rocker / early rise tip, and a bit of tail rocker won't hurt. I would say something 85-95 underfoot. A ski like that will be a little underdone for jap powder. However, as you can only get one, that would be the best fit.

Your choice is going to be limited, and you will have to make some compromises. However, don't compromise on the front rocker, that will really help you
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