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Studded vs non-studded

Poll Results: Studded vs non-studded

 
  • 40% (4)
    Studded
  • 60% (6)
    Non-studded
10 Total Votes  
post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
Hey all. I tried searching for this but came up relatively empty. Also found some stuff from 2006. However my question is: which is better for eastern skiing? I ran studded nokian nordman 5's on my corolla last year but its time to replace them. Im picking up some general altimax arctic tires and want to know if its worth having them studded or not. They are studdable for the record. Thank you all for the input!
post #2 of 18

I'm in the same boat.  Went with X-ice III lat time around, considering Nokian Hakka 8.

 

I did notice a little bit of a drop off in ice traction after about 10,000 miles on the x-ice IIIs.  They still had amazing traction on ice, especially on wet ice.

 

Rational last time was most of the time the pavement is bare.   Rational this time is I don't need extra traction when the pavement is bare; I need it when I'm surprised by ice at an intersection or forget to pay attention and come into an icy corner too hot.  Hey, pobody's nerfect!

post #3 of 18
Thread Starter 
I have 2 cars and I am getting 2 sets of the same tire. Might just stud one set and call it a day. Road noise doesnt bother me and one time I left work at 11pm and drove 1.5 hours to my in-laws house and the entire trip was black ice. I stopped 2 times to clear the 1/4 inch of ice off my headlights. I was driving like it was nothing. I just know that studded tires have slightly worse braking than their non-studded variant. I think I will just do both unless anyone of you fine fellows suggest otherwise with good reason lol.
post #4 of 18
I never really do any high-speed driving in winter, the mountain is only 16 minutes away. It's mostly down one hill, up the other. I've put five seasons on my last pair of Hakka's (4's?) and the studs show it, unfortunately. But, expect to get a new car, so no point in buying new tires. But they'd be more Hakka's. What kills me is the studs wear out way before the tread.
post #5 of 18
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

I never really do any high-speed driving in winter, the mountain is only 16 minutes away. It's mostly down one hill, up the other. I've put five seasons on my last pair of Hakka's (4's?) and the studs show it, unfortunately. But, expect to get a new car, so no point in buying new tires. But they'd be more Hakka's. What kills me is the studs wear out way before the tread.

 

Aren't studded tires mostly for traction on ice? So I would think that a 4x4 in Montana would not encounter enough ice to need studs.

post #6 of 18
I live on a dirt road with minimal plowing that is very steep. The ditch and I are well acquainted. I need all the help I can get, down and up. A winch would be nice.
post #7 of 18
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

I live on a dirt road with minimal plowing that is very steep. The ditch and I are well acquainted. I need all the help I can get, down and up. A winch would be nice.
 
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post #8 of 18
The buses around here have them. UPS, for some reason, does not. I wish they did, they always call me to come down to them if I get a package. Usually after I'm in my PJ's. 😔
post #9 of 18
Thread Starter 
Yea studs really only aid in ice traction. We tend to get a lot of freezing rain out here in the east. The trade off is slightly less braking (read longer braking distance)
post #10 of 18
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

IWhat kills me is the studs wear out way before the tread.

I've never driven a car with studded tires but Isn't that because the studs hold the tire off the road?
post #11 of 18
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Originally Posted by steveturner View Post

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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

IWhat kills me is the studs wear out way before the tread.

I've never driven a car with studded tires but Isn't that because the studs hold the tire off the road?

Well, they stick out to some degree, but they actually get pushed in to some degree as well. It not like the tire is made of wood. But, much as Jacques talks about them tearing up the roads, the roads are tearing them up as well. If I only had dirt and compressed snow, they'd probably hold up longer. Unfortunately, they do plow in town. And worse yet, throw brine on the road.
post #12 of 18

Also if you drive crazy fast, centrifugal acceleration will pull them out.

post #13 of 18
The only time I'm on a road that has a speed limit over 45, it's my monthly trip to Kalispell. And usually it's not my car. So, not flinging any studs.
post #14 of 18

I haven't used studs in years; ever since I almost lost control of my car because of studs on wet pavement.  Not enough traction and I slid. 

 

Around here we drive on wet pavement all winter in the lowlands where everyone lives, and spend usually only a few minutes in the ice and snow as we climb up to the ski areas in the mountains.  Regular snow tires have worked well for me in those conditions.

post #15 of 18
Thread Starter 
I guess a better question would be do we anticipate there being enough icy roads in new england to warrant studs lol. Ive only been skiing for a couple of years and havent paid much attention to road conditions. Last year the studs saved my neck (and car) a couple of times.
post #16 of 18
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Originally Posted by quattroa430 View Post

Hey all. I tried searching for this but came up relatively empty. Also found some stuff from 2006. However my question is: which is better for eastern skiing? I ran studded nokian nordman 5's on my corolla last year but its time to replace them. Im picking up some general altimax arctic tires and want to know if its worth having them studded or not. They are studdable for the record. Thank you all for the input!


The general altimax arctic is not that bad unstudded. 

 

It also depends on where you live, which also dictates the decision, as state(s) law can prohibit having studded tires.

post #17 of 18
Thread Starter 
Yea i have checked the laws in the states i have visited and they are legal late november through early april. So you think the altimax arctics are a worthwhile tire for the price?
post #18 of 18
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Originally Posted by quattroa430 View Post

Yea i have checked the laws in the states i have visited and they are legal late november through early april. So you think the altimax arctics are a worthwhile tire for the price?

yes.  the Altimax Arctic is a good tire, especially when you factor in price.

 

It's an "old" tire, as it's a Gislaved NordFrost 3.  Gislaved has moved on in its NordFrost generations (Continental tire owns Gislaved & General Tire).

 

I couldn't complain about its snow/ice performance relative to the Nokian Hakkapeliita RSI's I had before.

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