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post #31 of 38
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Originally Posted by Tin Woodsman View Post
 

Telluride: An hour away from a large regional airport offering non-stop service from SF, LA, DFW, Houston, Chicago, New York, Phoenix and Atlanta.  Also within a 4-5 hour drive from the entire Front Range population and the major population centers in NM.   Oh - and it had a charming, authentic Western mining town already extent at the base of the mtn.

 

Crested Butte: Forty minutes away from a large regional airport offering non-stop service from Denver, LA, DFW, Houston and Chicago.  Also within a 5 hr drive of the Front Range and the NM population centers.  Also has a charming, authentic town close to the base (though not quite at the base like Telluride).

 

Jackson: Twenty minutes away from a large regional airport offering non-stop service to SF, LA, Denver, SLC, DFW, HOU, Minneapolis, Chicago, and Atlanta.  Not easily driveable, but Jackson is a major four-season resort anyway due to its proximity to Yellowstone.

 

I'm a little slow responding, but I have to question some of your drive times using Google maps.  While I know some of us can beat their times, it's harder in winter with icy roads or any weather.

 

"Telluride: ...within a 4-5 hour drive from the entire Front Range population and the major population centers in NM." Google maps says over 6 hrs from Denver and over 5 1/2 from Albuquerque. And Google maps says it's closer to an hour and a half from Montrose airport to Telluride.

 

"Crested Butte: ...within a 5 hr drive of the Front Range and the NM population centers." Google maps says 4 hrs 14 minutes from Denver via Monarch and Gunnison, but over 6 from Albuquerque.

 

"Jackson: Twenty minutes away from a large regional airport" - Maybe from Airport to Town or Town to JHMR, but Google maps says 38 minutes from Airport to JHMR using winter route.

 

I think we both agree that Valemount, if it can be built, will struggle to get enough customers to be a success. But I disagree that Front Range and New Mexico have contributed a lot to the success of Crested Butte (where they used to have free skiing early season to attract customers) and Telluride. If you can't get many Front Range skiers to go as far as Aspen to avoid crowds, I don't see them going hours further to Crested Butte and Telluride in large numbers.


Edited by tseeb - 8/21/16 at 7:07am
post #32 of 38
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I'm a little slow responding, but I have to question some of your drive times using Google maps.  While I know some of us can beat their times, it's harder in winter with icy roads or any weather.

 

"Telluride: ...within a 4-5 hour drive from the entire Front Range population and the major population centers in NM." Google maps says over 6 hrs from Denver and over 5 1/2 from Albuquerque. And Google maps says it's closer to an hour and a half from Montrose airport to Telluride.

 

"Crested Butte: ...within a 5 hr drive of the Front Range and the NM population centers." Google maps says 4 hrs 14 minutes from Denver via Monarch and Gunnison, but over 6 from Albuquerque.

 

"Jackson: Twenty minutes away from a large regional airport" - Maybe from Airport to Town or Town to JHMR, but Google maps says 38 minutes from Airport to JHMR using winter route.

 

I think we both agree that Valemount, if it can be built, will struggle to get enough customers to be a success. But I disagree that Front Range and New Mexico have contributed a lot to the success of Crested Butte (where they used to have free skiing early season to attract customers) and Telluride. If you can't get many Front Range skiers to go as far as Aspen to avoid crowds, I don't see them going hours further to Crested Butte and Telluride in large numbers.

Fair enough.  I think it's a distinction w/o a difference.  Those two hills are rather different from Valemount in all material respects.  Valemount is still 3x longer to the airport than those hills, and it's still a longer drive past better ski hills from smaller population centers compared to that group.  

 

Valemount will be in bankruptcy and on its second set of owners within a decade of opening.  

post #33 of 38

Curious as to how much treed skiing there is.  From the pictures I have seen there is a lot of above treeline glaciated terrain.  Not much fun skiing inside the ping pong ball.  

 

Second question is how much snowfall does the area receive?  Lake Louise and to an even greater extent Marmot Basin are low snowfall areas.

post #34 of 38

Louise and Marmot are in the rain shadow of the Rockies - so they get a lot less snow than the proposed Valemount area would. The difference between Louise/Marmot in snowfall and Valemount is similar to the difference between Louise/Marmot and the interior BC resorts. The new development would be in the Cariboos, which have a number of famous heliskiing operations (Mike Wiegele, CMH) - and they are known for snow quality and quantity. There's no Environment Canada weather station near the proposed location of the resort but the CMH Valemount resort gets on average 1400 cm of snow at 1800 m. I think the snow will be pretty good. 


Edited by albertanskigirl - 8/25/16 at 8:53am
post #35 of 38

Yeah that sounds real good.  Any idea how much glade or below treeline skiing will be part of the total vertical?

post #36 of 38

More snow,

better snow

higher elevation.

more vertical

 

If people are coming from California, Alberta to Quebec, and Europe for Revelstoke, then they will go to Valemount.

 

Also, the terrain seems to be 1000-3000m.... so there should be plenty of tree skiing, you don't get above the tree line until 2300m

post #37 of 38

Well... I'd be interested in skiing there. Heck, I'd even consider moving there if there were affordable options. 

 

...Who am I kidding? There are no affordable options in big mountain skiing anymore. 

post #38 of 38
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Second question is how much snowfall does the area receive? 

 

There is a snow plot at the Caribou Lodge that is less that 10 miles from the resort base, at an elevation of 3400ft.  Which is below the resort base.  

 

Total Snow:  537cm/211in

 

Total Precip: 1044mm/41in

 

Base Depth - 100-120cm/ 40-50inches. Jan1st - April1st. 

 

 

There has been over 25 years of record keeping at that site. I would suspect the Resort base is pretty comparable. 

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