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Wilmot/Vail Update

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Visited Wilmot/Vail last week and talked to one of the new Vail managers about the area.  Construction is pretty much on schedule and in the process of installing new lift towers.  Area will have all new snowmaking plant and improved pump capacity.  All lifts either being completely replaced or renovated (needed badly for the ancient lifts).  Lodge is being gutted and completely redone with a new building for the ski school.  There is a commitment to bring Vail quality to all aspects of the area but I am sure it will come at a cost.  More to be done next year but not sure what that will be.

 

Took a few pictures which I am posting.

 

Bill

post #2 of 11

Thanks for the update and pics.

 

Do you know if the price for the Wilmot only season pass change for 2016-17?  Did the Family Pass exist before?  Just wondering what differences exist for people who aren't interested in the Epic Pass options.

 

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Thanks for posting. 

 

I have been looking for excuse to drive up there and see Vail at Wilmot's progress - but have not found the time this summer.

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Have not seen any information on day lift prices.  Wilmot has sold day lifts for seniors 65+ for half price for several years now and that was a good deal.  Not sure if I want to buy an Epic pass which limits skiing elsewhere in the area and I do not plan on skiing out west this winter.  An Epic pass is not a good deal to me unless I change my skiing habits.

 

Bill

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1/2 price Sr. will be history.
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That's what I think but couldn't determine what Vail did when they bought Afton alps and Mt Brighton.  Probably just wishful thinking for 1/2 price on my part.

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The good and the bad. The skiing and facilities will certainly improve but the cost to enjoy this will certainly increase substantially I would think. But yet again, if they price themselves into greatly reduced skiing day numbers what do they gain?

Interesting to me , Vail is buying these smaller Midwest areas and pumping tens of million dollars into them. AS stand alone ski areas , I would not think the return on investment would be there. As for gaining a decent influx of new skiers to Vail resorts, I have to wonder what percentage of the skiers that ski these local areas head west to VA ski area.

I'm sure they know that number and there is a healthy return on the money being spent but it still surprises me.
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That's what I think but couldn't determine what Vail did when they bought Afton alps and Mt Brighton.  Probably just wishful thinking for 1/2 price on my part.

 

It looks like about 20% off full day tickets only.  No senior discount on season pass at Wilmot or most other Epic products. 

 

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Originally Posted by roundturns View Post

The good and the bad. The skiing and facilities will certainly improve but the cost to enjoy this will certainly increase substantially I would think. But yet again, if they price themselves into greatly reduced skiing day numbers what do they gain?

Interesting to me , Vail is buying these smaller Midwest areas and pumping tens of million dollars into them. AS stand alone ski areas , I would not think the return on investment would be there. As for gaining a decent influx of new skiers to Vail resorts, I have to wonder what percentage of the skiers that ski these local areas head west to VA ski area.

I'm sure they know that number and there is a healthy return on the money being spent but it still surprises me.

 

Yeah, me too. I think that's why they've stayed with the midwest feeders, because they do go west in fairly high numbers.

I think they also get a fair amount of drag along,  full price guests that go to Epic resorts, just because someone in the party has an Epic Pass.

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Have not seen any information on day lift prices.  Wilmot has sold day lifts for seniors 65+ for half price for several years now and that was a good deal.  Not sure if I want to buy an Epic pass which limits skiing elsewhere in the area and I do not plan on skiing out west this winter.  An Epic pass is not a good deal to me unless I change my skiing habits.

 

Bill

What were you paying for your half price senior day pass? Would you not do enough days at Wilmot to cover the $379 Wilmot Pass? What was the cost of the old season pass? Being from the west I have no feel for what these small hills cost to ski. Seems hard to believe that this is much of an increase.

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I skied about 10 or 15 times a year at Wilmot and then traveled to various areas in the Midwest and NE and in the past it was not worth the investment in a season pass.  As I recall it was more than the Epic/Wilmot pass now.  Day tickets for 65 or over were half of full price for any day.  Last season it was $20 during the week. 

 

Wilmot is 56 miles from my house with a sometimes crappy drive so I pick and choose my days during the week.  If I lived closer I would probably go more often.  It might be worthwhile for me to buy an Epic pass in the future but the daily pricing has not been revealed so far.  I am almost 100% certain that I will ski in NE and not the west this year so a more expensive epic pass would be a waste.  Maybe the next year I will do it but some of my favorite areas are not owned by Vail - Aspen Steamboat, Jackson Hole, Telluride and several others. 

 

Last season lifts were still free for 70+ at Chestnut Mountain (NW IL) and Nubs Knob (N MI) and both are far superior skiing than Wilmot.  Will know in a month or so if they continue to give free lifts to super seniors....hope so.  Other areas also give them to seniors at a substantial discount but one by one they are changing.  Have to be 80 at a lot of those areas now and I am not there yet and who knows what my health will be by then.  Hopefully good.

 

Bill

post #11 of 11

Hopefully good indeed. Don't we all wish that?

Thanks for the clarification.

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