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Can I patrol Grand Targhee [high school teen, passed OEC]

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
So with the election coming up my family may have to move to Idaho or somewhere hopefully with a ski area. I'm 16 and just passed the OEC course. I passed the skiing portion, written exam, and scenarios. I love to patrol more than anything. Would Grand Targhee let me patrol or no. I don't care if It is volunteer, my area is already volunteer. I still have to go to school and could only do it on the weekends. This is just a huge maybe at this point, but who knows.
post #2 of 18
Why not contact them and ask?
post #3 of 18
Thread Starter 
Im thinking about it but since it's still a maybe I figured someone on here either is patrolling or has patrolled at Grand Targhee.
post #4 of 18

Paging @HarkinBanks to the white courtesy phone...

post #5 of 18
To the OP,

Not sure how the election affects your family moving or patrolling. Anyway…

Realize I am not speaking for Grand Targhee Resort (GTR), or Grand Targhee Ski Patrol (GTSP). I just “know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy”. I congratulate you on reaching out for information and for your enthusiasm.

This is what I understand and know from your inquiry and my understanding of the inner workings at GTR and within GTSP.

Since you are only 16, you’d be registered as a patroller with the National Ski Patrol (NSP) system under the Young Adult Program (YAP). Since GTSP does not have a YAP, you would not be able to patrol at GTR until you’re 18 years old.

You state you have passed your OEC – the class portion and the on-the-hill portion. Have you passed your CPR Basic Life Support for the Professional Rescuer? Are you currently registered on a patrol? If so, where at? Can you get a Letter of Recommendation from your current Patrol Director? How many years have you patrolled?

Skiing and toboggan handling are “hill specific” and GTSP’s ski & toboggan exams are administered by their Ski & Toboggan Advisor. The expectation is that a GTSP patroller can ski any run (and run a toboggan on any run) on the hill in any condition. I know that GTSP does have a “Transfer Patroller Training Program”, which is what I believe that you would fall into, once you turn 18 (assuming you continue to patrol somewhere else). Or, you would just sign up for the “Candidate Patroller Training Program” like any other candidate, again, once you turn 18. Both programs start in November, are “candidate skill based”, and complete (depending upon the candidate) around the end of February. I know that GTSP has had several “transfer patrollers” who have had a very difficult time meeting GTSP’s skiing and tobogganing skill level expectation.

There is a “feeder” ski hill to the west of GTR (an hour or so west) called Kelly Canyon Ski Area that does have a YAP and does have patrollers who are younger than 18 years old. That might be a better fit for you to start out at in the area.

Hope this helps.

HB
post #6 of 18
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the info. Knowing that kelly has a program is good news. I just want to patrol anywhere and knowing this is good knowledge. I'll keep it in mind. Thanks!
post #7 of 18
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Thanks for the info. Knowing that kelly has a program is good news. I just want to patrol anywhere and knowing this is good knowledge. I'll keep it in mind. Thanks!


Hey, wyopatroller.

 

The info you're received from HarkinBanks is literally worth its weight in gold!  If you're really serious about going down this path, I'd suggest you contact him(her?) via private message and follow up once the election is over.  Grand Targhee has one of America's most skilled and professional ski patrols and being a member of that somewhere down the road would be huge plus for you if you ever looked for a job elsewhere.

 

Good luck in the search and I really, really recommend that you contact Harkin to find out what your options might be.

 

(Speaking of that, are Harkin and I the only ones who are incredibly perplexed by how the election results might impact your family's move to Idaho or Wyoming?  I'm still scratching my head about this one.  I can conjure up justifications either way  :dunno  ) 

post #8 of 18
You are not the only ones. I've been waiting in suspense.
post #9 of 18
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post
 

 

(Speaking of that, are Harkin and I the only ones who are incredibly perplexed by how the election results might impact your family's move to Idaho or Wyoming?  I'm still scratching my head about this one.  I can conjure up justifications either way  :dunno  ) 

 

I sure can't think of a political reason why one would have to bail out of Wyoming to go to Idaho.  Perhaps the energy economy?  Both states are Republican bastions.

post #10 of 18
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You are not the only ones. I've been waiting in suspense.


Inquiriing minds.....

post #11 of 18
Maybe one of his parents might lose their election? And Plan B is in Idaho?
post #12 of 18
Thread Starter 
My dads job rely heavily on the energy industry. He sells construction technology's. If Hillary gets elected she will probably kill coal. Coal is the only thing to really keep wyoming going. No coal=no construction= no money.
post #13 of 18
Well, she won't kill it before this ski season. So, in a year you can worry. Why Idaho?
post #14 of 18

If Hillary doesn't kill coal, cheap natural gas will.

post #15 of 18
Thread Starter 
I don't know yet why Idaho. The problem is there is no reason to just sit on our house and wait for the value to plummet. Might as well sell high why we still can.
post #16 of 18
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Originally Posted by UNHCat View Post
 

If Hillary doesn't kill coal, cheap natural gas will.


Yeah - I hesitate to take what could turn into a political trend on the thread. But honestly, at the end of the day, this is more economics than politics. Yes, a given administration might drive things somewhat  faster or slower. But the issue is economic viability -- especially if you are not allowed to privatize profits while socializing impact. And if WY has issues, it is not clear to me how there is any better situation in the energy biz in ID....

 

This sort of makes me think of Keystone. Despite all the politics, the reason it died was the collapse in oil prices and the cost of extracting that oil. Simple.

post #17 of 18
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Yeah - I hesitate to take what could turn into a political trend on the thread. But honestly, at the end of the day, this is more economics than politics. Yes, a given administration might drive things somewhat  faster or slower. But the issue is economic viability -- especially if you are not allowed to privatize profits while socializing impact. And if WY has issues, it is not clear to me how there is any better situation in the energy biz in ID....

 

This sort of makes me think of Keystone. Despite all the politics, the reason it died was the collapse in oil prices and the cost of extracting that oil. Simple.

 

You are correct, @spindrift

 

https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/update/resource_use.cfm 

 

Like the OP's dad, I work in the energy industry (largely coal) but, ironically, find that my personal feelings on many energy issues are at odds w/my future career prospects.  To link back to a subject near and dear to all our hearts, though, reductions in fossil fuel use = reductions in greenhouse gas emissions = lessening of global warming impacts = preservation of winter and MORE SNOW!  

post #18 of 18

I'm no longer directly involved, but I'd bet Snow King mountain in Jackson would take a look at you.  Kelly Canyon is also a good suggestion from Harkin.

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