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post #1 of 19
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Hi All,

 

It's time to invest in some new gear and I'm looking at a 2 ski quiver for the upcoming season. 

 

Quick stats: 5'9", 165lbs, expert skier, west coast based (primarily Tahoe), rarely ski in tight trees

 

Thinking about doing the following:

  • Hard snow/on-piste/carver: Kastle MX88 in a 178 - demoed last year and loved it

 

  • Fresh snow/off-piste/powder: Deciding between the Volkl V Werks Katana in a 177 or the 100Eight in either the 173 or 181

 

Questions are:

1) Does anyone have a sense of the differences between the Katana and 100Eight? I've skied the Katana and enjoyed them, but a bit turned off by the $$

2) Does the 100Eight ski long or short? Torn between the 173 and 181

3) Other recs?

 

Thanks!

post #2 of 19
Those are both really nice skis. 181 for sure, if you go 100eight.
post #3 of 19

I'm probably not the person to suggest a groomer carver. But you might look into a Praxis GPO in maybe a 182 for your fresh snow ski. I'd personally go even fatter - but it is in the zone. Especially for a lighter person. Pre-season sale going on now is pretty rocking.

post #4 of 19
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Originally Posted by gogate228 View Post
 

Hi All,

 

It's time to invest in some new gear and I'm looking at a 2 ski quiver for the upcoming season. 

 

Quick stats: 5'9", 165lbs, expert skier, west coast based (primarily Tahoe), rarely ski in tight trees

 

Thinking about doing the following:

  • Hard snow/on-piste/carver: Kastle MX88 in a 178 - demoed last year and loved it

 

  • Fresh snow/off-piste/powder: Deciding between the Volkl V Werks Katana in a 177 or the 100Eight in either the 173 or 181

 

Questions are:

1) Does anyone have a sense of the differences between the Katana and 100Eight? I've skied the Katana and enjoyed them, but a bit turned off by the $$

2) Does the 100Eight ski long or short? Torn between the 173 and 181

3) Other recs?

 

Thanks!

 

Mx88 is a bit on the wide side for ripping groomers, a cheater GS ski like the rossi masters or elans are both great rippers and a little more forgiving than a typical race ski. Or something like a Volkl Code, Kastle RX 12, Rossi Pursuit, etc.  The MX88 is a great ski, but its more of an all around stick, less front side biased.  Even the MX 83 should be better for groomers than the 88, but I've never tried it, only the 88.



 

post #5 of 19

I have quivers at both SLC and WB, and, like your thought, MX88's form the basis for hard snow skiing, and I don't see changing that as it's been my hard snow go-to for over 3 seasons.

 

I'm not that disciplined in trying to have just one other skis, so I go from hard to not-so-hard with Kastle MX108's which are sadly not made anymore, and the BMX 108 is a castrated version of that ski.

 

Soooo, when it comes to the snow being more malleable, I love my Nordica Patrons that I keep in both places. 16m turn radius and capable to railing on anything that's down from "firm" snow. Ripping groomers is no problem on the Patron's as long as you can get a solid edge in, but when there's freshies they're a ball..

post #6 of 19

MX88 178 + Billy Goat 184 and you are set to go!

post #7 of 19

for groomers, I would go, for sure, on the lower side ( < 88) assuming you would have 2 pairs of skis.

(88-100 is usually, whey one trying to get away with just one pair of skis)

 

groomers: 70-80

powder: 105-115

 

examples:

Blizzard Latigo in 170 [115-78-102]  {you could try 177 as well, but I am guessing 170 would work too}

Volkl 100eight in 181 [141-108-124]

 

should be enough for Lake Tahoe


Edited by Oleg S - 8/4/16 at 1:31pm
post #8 of 19
I'm in the Midwest with 88 GS (for soft & Rockies) and buying 72(ish) SL's for hard pack.
If I lived in the Rockies again id go with 88's & 100-107's.
But that would probably change after demoing...
post #9 of 19
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Originally Posted by Oleg S View Post

for groomers, I would go, for sure, on the lower side ( < 88) assuming you would have 2 pairs of skis.
(88-100 is usually, whey one trying to get away with just one pair of skis)

groomers: 70-80
powder: 105-115

examples:
Blizzard Latigo in 170 [115-78-102]  {you could try 177 as well, but I am guessing 170 would work too}
Volkl 100eight in 181 [141-108-124]

should be enough for Lake Tahoe
I'd agree on going < 88 on a groomer carver. I see 88 as more all mountain if you were to have a one-ski quiver.

Like the choice of Volkyl 100Eight for pow ski in 181. I'm 5'9" 170 and am seriously considering that onefor myself.
post #10 of 19

This past spring I added the 100Eight as the wide member of my 2-ski travel quiver, taking the place of my Gotamas. The Gotamas were my all time favorite skis of the past 30 years, and I find the 100Eights perceptibly better in every possible parameter. The narrow end of the quiver is a pair of Scott The Ski(s). My specific preference for the Scotts is that if I can't be in powder, I would rather be in the bumps than anywhere else. The Scotts bumped my Bushwackers down to rock status. 

post #11 of 19

Every one has an opinion.

 

I think a modern 2 ski quiver can do it all real well.  

 

I like an all mountain in the width you mention up to a 98.  As an "expert" I always like to poke and push in bounds.  A versatile ski to do it all because I am going to scope it all out.  If you can not rail groomers on a good all mountain ski you-the rhetorical you- are not an "expert"

 

I think the sweet spot for resort powder skis is in the 108-116 waist.  Definitely get them in the 180's in length.

post #12 of 19
Hey guys, quick question. I'm considering the Volkl 100Eights myself. 5'7", 170-185lb, I live on the east coast, and have Brahmas in 173 that I love, but when I go west, I find that they're on the narrow side for off piste and trees.

I'm torn between the 173cm or 181cm?
post #13 of 19
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Originally Posted by Jonathan Keller View Post

Hey guys, quick question. I'm considering the Volkl 100Eights myself. 5'7", 170-185lb, I live on the east coast, and have Brahmas in 173 that I love, but when I go west, I find that they're on the narrow side for off piste and trees.

I'm torn between the 173cm or 181cm?

trees or bowl?

post #14 of 19
Both. Ideally looking to have a competent all mountain ski for when I travel.
post #15 of 19
I'm 5'8" and 140#. The 173s are perfect for me, coming from 170 cm Gotamas. You outweigh me, though. You really are betwixt and between. It probably comes down to which you value more greatly: nimbleness, or stability at speed. If I can't have powder, I'm always in the bumps, so I prefer nimbleness.
post #16 of 19
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Originally Posted by Jonathan Keller View Post

Both. Ideally looking to have a competent all mountain ski for when I travel.

5.7' is around 173 cm, so Volkl 100Eight 173 would work for you just fine, unless you are an expert skier and value stability and speed over anything, then 181.

(Disclaimer, I didn't ski Volkl 108 (only Gotamas)).

post #17 of 19
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Originally Posted by cosmoliu View Post

I'm 5'8" and 140#. The 173s are perfect for me, coming from 170 cm Gotamas. You outweigh me, though. You really are betwixt and between. It probably comes down to which you value more greatly: nimbleness, or stability at speed. If I can't have powder, I'm always in the bumps, so I prefer nimbleness.

That's pretty much how I was thinking. I'm always in trees, so I'm leaning towards 173.
post #18 of 19
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Originally Posted by Jonathan Keller View Post

Hey guys, quick question. I'm considering the Volkl 100Eights myself. 5'7", 170-185lb, I live on the east coast, and have Brahmas in 173 that I love, but when I go west, I find that they're on the narrow side for off piste and trees.

I'm torn between the 173cm or 181cm?



@ 173 the Brahma's you have are too short if you can ski them to their max potential.

post #19 of 19
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Originally Posted by trailtrimmer View Post


@ 173 the Brahma's you have are too short if you can ski them to their max potential.

I'm doubtful I'm skiing them to their max potential. That said, I do go in to some tight trees, where I would not want to be on anything longer.
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