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Spy Happy Lens (v.s. Prizm v.s. Smith I/O)

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 

Hi guys,

 

I have been using my I/Os for 1.5 seasons and I like the FOV and have never had any issues with my red sol-X lens.

 

However, with my blue sensor mirror I've had terrible fog issues between the lenses, which ruin the whole point since moisture gets trapped in there and leave stains and so on. Actually I've had them even replaced once, but the new lenses also fogged in the first powder day (the inner lenses even detached from the lens frame).

 

Smith is not willing to replace them this time, so probably it is time to move on. I've never seen any spetacular improvements with the BSM in flat light, to be honest.

 

Right now I am considering the Spy Doom or Spy Platoon with their "happy lenses", but I have seen little feedback regarding how they actually perform in terms of contrast (specially in low light conditions).

 

Is the technology a gimmick or does it make any noticeable difference in contrast / visibility (specially in flat light)?

 

How do they compare with the more hyped oakley prizm? I've found some nice deals for canopy's with sapphire prizm, but in the price range I am considering they come with no extra lens.

 

Bonus question: Spy users, did you ever experience fogging between the lenses?

 

(please do not tell me not to store to goggles wet or wear them over my head. I've read it all when my first lens fogged and no luck afterwards as well).

 

Thanks a lot!

post #2 of 16

I have been using Spy Doom's for the last 2 season and I think they are pretty great but I don't have any experience with the Smiths/Oakleys. I haven't experienced any fogging up with them.

 

I have used both the Happy Lens and non Happy Lens lenses in them and I'm not sure if there is a clear difference between them. The lenses that are "Happy" lenses are my bright day lenses, so naturally, I'm already a little more happy, haha.

 

Overall, I'm very happy with the Doom's and love the lens changing system. It's super easy to swap out lenses with the Doom but I don't think the Platoon uses the same system. Something to consider.

 

Good luck with the decision!

post #3 of 16
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the reply!

 

I do understand they are not as easy to switch, but honestly I don't see the point of a super-fast lens changing mechanism for me, since I usually pick my lens in the morning and don't take the replacement uphill (which explains how fogging my Blue Sensor's ruined some powder days). I am scared of riding with extra lenses and crushing them or losing them, as I don't take a backpack 90% of the time.

 

Interesting that you do not notice a remarkable difference among happy and sad lenses, the price point of the goggles with the happy lenses is not so joyful.

 

Anyone had the chance of comparing them with Prizms / Smith lenses?

 

Thanks!

post #4 of 16

I have a pair of Smith I/O goggles that I like but still was resistant to wearing goggles.  Preferred my Julbo glacier glasses. However, what changed me and converted me into a goggle lover was the Oakley Prizm series.   I have a pair of Oakley Flight Deck XM goggles with the Torch Prizm lense that I use in sunlight.  In the past I wore sunglasses when it was sunny out but the prizm visibility is so spectacular it's these or nothing when it''s sunny.  On the last day of my ski season I picked up a pair of Oakley Crowbar goggles with Rose Prizm lenses for cloudy/snow days.

post #5 of 16

You might get some useful information out of this thread:

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/281280-Oakley-Prizm

post #6 of 16
Thread Starter 

I see.

 

I've made quite some research on the forum and I've found many Smith and Prizm enthusiasts, but few comparissons with the "new" happy lenses Spy is offering.

As I've said, I wasn't particullarly thrilled by the Blue Sensor in low light conditions, not to say about fogging.

My main issue now is to understand if Happy Lens is somewhere comparable to Prizm, if Spy's fog as Smiths do, and how much of an improvement the happy lenses would be over my current setup in terms of contrast and visibility.

 

Many thanks again, everyone!

post #7 of 16
Ive never had problems fogging with any goggles ive used. Includinf some smith blue sensor so maybe your just unlucky. My current scott goggles seem bulletproof. Ive gone facefirst into machine hardpack while (attemtint to) snowboard. No issues. Ive used the 30% vlt "natural" or whatever lens for every condition and couldnt be happier. So maybe consider some scott's?

The oakleys "seem" overhyped to me. Ive never used them but trying them in store, they just seem big. Similiar to Electric goggles but more money.

As for spy, the happy lens is a little brighter and more yellow than standard. Not a huge difference but i could see it helping for sure in some flat light while still retaining sung condtion capability. Ive never skied with them though. Once again, just tried them.
post #8 of 16
Thread Starter 

I see. For some reason scott neve caught my attention.

 

Anyone had the chance to try Smith, prizms and happy lenses on the snow (specially low light)?

post #9 of 16

I have both Smith I/O's and Spy Dooms, and a bunch of lenses for each.

 

I have also suffered the fogging of the Smith leses, which has made me go over to the Dooms more often, plus I like the larger viewing area of the Spy's.

 

As far as the Happy lens, I do like it a lot, and, in fact have bought quite a few Happy lenses late last season. That's not to say that the Smith lenses aren't good, but given the fogging and smaller viewing area, the Doom's have become my default. No matter how good the Smith lenses are, you can't see when they're fogged up. I keep pictures so I know what I have for  lenses in what locaiton.

 

 

post #10 of 16
Thread Starter 

Interesting!

Disconsidering fog issues, would you say Smith lenses are better than the Happy Lenses? How do the happy lenses perform in flat light?

 

(btw, quite a collection you have!)

 

Thanks,

Flavio

post #11 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by flavioncruz View Post
 

Interesting!

Disconsidering fog issues, would you say Smith lenses are better than the Happy Lenses? How do the happy lenses perform in flat light?

 

(btw, quite a collection you have!)

 

Thanks,

Flavio

 

I'm very susceptable to flat light (I think it has to do with color-blindness), AND I spend a lot of time at WB, the white-out capital of the universe, and, honestly, I can say that either one is so much better than the other.

 

In the Smith I use the one with the blueish tint, and with the Spy they have a rose tint (my favorite) that MIGHT do a slightly better job (of the Oakley HI Yellow is also good), but at the end of the day, there's no magic for flat light. I THINK (again, no head-to-head) comparison, that the Spy has slightly less eye-strain in flat light, and when I'm in my hotel room ready to go out and look outside comparing the two, I usually opt for the Spy's, but that's only by a small margin.

 

BTW, those are the lenses at PC, I have a better selection at WB, and plenty more in Floriduh. In fact, the lenses I've been buying lately have been for the Spy's, so I guess that sort-of says where I'm going on this.

post #12 of 16

Here is a review on Blister for the Spy lenses.......

 

 

http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/spy-doom-goggles-with-happy-lens

post #13 of 16
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by snofun3 View Post
 

I have both Smith I/O's and Spy Dooms, and a bunch of lenses for each.

 

 

How would you compare the size of the I/O with the Doom?

 

I am considering now whether the doom or the bravo would suit me better. I am an I/O user, so I am guessing the Bravo should be similar size and the doom bigger (as the I/Ox, maybe). Makes sense?

 

Thanks

post #14 of 16

The Doom seems a fair amount larger than the I/O to me, however that blister review said it was only marginal, so suggest you try for yourself.

 

As usual, one or the other may fit better with your helmet, so suggest you try with your lid. I have the Smith Vantage, Giro something and they all seem to fit OK, but YMMV

post #15 of 16
Thread Starter 

Pulled the trigger on the Doom with Happy Lenses... In a few months I'll post back my impressions

 

Thanks everyone!

post #16 of 16
Thread Starter 

Pulled the trigger on the Doom with Happy Lenses... In a few months I'll post back my impressions

 

Thanks everyone!

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